Redskins 2021 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) Its to hard to figure out who they take till we actually see who will be there during draft. There could be alot of diffrent players who drop there. Edited March 20, 2022 by Redskins 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 There’s no way we go through this draft with just the picks we currently have. One selection between #47 and #189 isn’t enough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: There’s no way we go through this draft with just the picks we currently have. One selection between #47 and #189 isn’t enough. Agreed, there are so many players that would be great fits in that void. The easiest way to add i there is hope for a decent offer from 11 If no trade down at 11 I'd take one of the DB's Sauce, Hamilton, Stingley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: There’s no way we go through this draft with just the picks we currently have. One selection between #47 and #189 isn’t enough. The 11th pick is the easiest to create immediate pick capital. But we could trade down from 47 and grab a 2 and 3 from someone picking late round or with comp picks. I feel there will be good talent at 47 though so I think trading down from 11 to get a 1/2/5 or something would be nice. Then you could trade back from one of the 2’s to add another pick if you wanted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Got 32/34/66 from Detroit for 11/142. So net a pick overall and then have 4 picks between 32 and 66. In this scenario I’d probably try to recoup a pair of 3’s or a 3+4. Having 4 Top 66 picks is awesome. But then not picking again until round 6 might be less than ideal. Maybe not though … you could really fill the roster out with impact guys through 66 then use 6/7/7 for backend depth. Anyway, I then Traded 66 for for 75 and 116 32: Jaquan Brisker, S PSU 34: Chad Muma, LB Wyoming 47: Jahan Dotson, WR PSU 75: Daniel Fahlaale, OT Minnesota 116: Derion Kendrick, CB Georgia 189: DJ Davidson, DT ASU 230: Chris Allen, Edge Bama 240: Ty Chandler, RB UNC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) Here’s the same scenario except I got offered a 3rd to move back a few spots and then traded 14+3rd for 32/34/66. Then traded 66 for 67 and a 6th. So ended up with 1/2/2/3/4/6/6/7/7. Last few picks are cut off but I went TE, DT, OG Edited March 20, 2022 by JamesMadisonSkins 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I'm officially off the LB bandwagon at 11. Just not worth it in today's NFL and we can probably get a decent one in round 2. Give me a WR if Gardner or Hamilton aren't there. I'm not sure about Stingley, we've been burned too often by guys with injury histories, but on the flip side Jonathan Allen and Kendall Fuller both entered the draft with injury concerns and both ended up being real good picks. Reg. the WRs, I like Olave a lot. He might be a "reach" at 11 but people are comparing him to Justin Jefferson and I'd take Jefferson at 11 in a heartbeat. Burks and Wilson would be fine too. I don't really like London, getting Doctson vibes from him(plodder who doesn't get open). 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebestian Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 47 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Here’s the same scenario except I got offered a 3rd to move back a few spots and then traded 14+3rd for 32/34/66. Then traded 66 for 67 and a 6th. So ended up with 1/2/2/3/4/6/6/7/7. Last few picks are cut off but I went TE, DT, OG Sign me up right now!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantaylor=god Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I don't really like London, getting Doctson vibes from him(plodder who doesn't get open). Agree on not going LB. That’s the only scenario where I will be screaming- if we go LB again at 11. Strongly disagree about the London/Docston comparison. breakout age, production, all different. He was the conference offensive player of the year, and he got hurt. London is not going to run a 4.3, which is why he’s not AJ Green and he might actually make it to 11. But he’s a plus possession WR, generates YAC, and red zone target. At any rate, I think Docston’s real issue in the pros was desire and effort. He showed flashes. He was homesick and got hurt and busted due to that (not to go off on a tangent). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I'm officially off the LB bandwagon at 11. Just not worth it in today's NFL and we can probably get a decent one in round 2. Give me a WR if Gardner or Hamilton aren't there. I'm not sure about Stingley, we've been burned too often by guys with injury histories, but on the flip side Jonathan Allen and Kendall Fuller both entered the draft with injury concerns and both ended up being real good picks. Reg. the WRs, I like Olave a lot. He might be a "reach" at 11 but people are comparing him to Justin Jefferson and I'd take Jefferson at 11 in a heartbeat. Burks and Wilson would be fine too. I don't really like London, getting Doctson vibes from him(plodder who doesn't get open). I'm pretty much with your line of thought too although I am not pounding the table for any particular player in this draft right now. My thoughts have evolved with Drake. I pegged him as another basketball type of WR who could have a hard time transitioning from college to the NFL but he does move well for a guy his size. To me, the only WR that has a skillset above the others is Jameson Williams. Nobody moves like him in this class IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, DWinzit said: Agreed, there are so many players that would be great fits in that void. The easiest way to add i there is hope for a decent offer from 11 If no trade down at 11 I'd take one of the DB's Sauce, Hamilton, Stingley. Yep think I’m looking DB with that pick. Taking a WR worries the hell out of me Would love to get DB,WR,LB and back up QB by the end of day 2. Not enough picks for that yet though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Warhead36 said: I'm officially off the LB bandwagon at 11. Just not worth it in today's NFL and we can probably get a decent one in round 2. Give me a WR if Gardner or Hamilton aren't there. I'm not sure about Stingley, we've been burned too often by guys with injury histories, but on the flip side Jonathan Allen and Kendall Fuller both entered the draft with injury concerns and both ended up being real good picks. Reg. the WRs, I like Olave a lot. He might be a "reach" at 11 but people are comparing him to Justin Jefferson and I'd take Jefferson at 11 in a heartbeat. Burks and Wilson would be fine too. I don't really like London, getting Doctson vibes from him(plodder who doesn't get open). I did see a mock with us getting Dean at 47 (Gardner at 11). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I did see a mock with us getting Dean at 47 (Gardner at 11). Sheesh that would be a coup. If we get a draft like that I expect this D to be nothing worse than top 3 in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Warhead36 said: I'm officially off the LB bandwagon at 11. Just not worth it in today's NFL and we can probably get a decent one in round 2. Give me a WR if Gardner or Hamilton aren't there. I'm not sure about Stingley, we've been burned too often by guys with injury histories, but on the flip side Jonathan Allen and Kendall Fuller both entered the draft with injury concerns and both ended up being real good picks. Reg. the WRs, I like Olave a lot. He might be a "reach" at 11 but people are comparing him to Justin Jefferson and I'd take Jefferson at 11 in a heartbeat. Burks and Wilson would be fine too. I don't really like London, getting Doctson vibes from him(plodder who doesn't get open). I keep seeing you say London is a plodder. But why? The guy is an athlete who runs good routes and is a big body that times his jumps and makes contested catches. In the NFL these are the guys you can hang your hat on. A lot of these speed guys are too reliant on speed and wind up struggling at the next level because they aren’t great in contested situations and struggle at the top of their routes. Olave… I’m not sure on. I think I like Wilson better. Burks is good, but I like Fryfogle just as much as Burks. 27 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I did see a mock with us getting Dean at 47 (Gardner at 11). All about BPA but if we don’t get some offensive weapons we’re in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 What’s the most likely team to trade up to us now after some of the FA movement? Would it be NO in order to get ahead of Houston for a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, KDawg said: I keep seeing you say London is a plodder. But why? The guy is an athlete who runs good routes and is a big body that times his jumps and makes contested catches. In the NFL these are the guys you can hang your hat on. A lot of these speed guys are too reliant on speed and wind up struggling at the next level because they aren’t great in contested situations and struggle at the top of their routes. Just a gut feeling. He struggled to create separation in college. His contested catch % is nice and all but all that tells me is that he doesn't get open. Maybe I'm overly hard on London and just jaded by guys like Doctson and Dyami Brown who literally never get open. I'm tired of guys like that. I don't care about size or winning one on one battles. Its a speed game now. Get guys who can fly and use the entire field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Just a gut feeling. He struggled to create separation in college. His contested catch % is nice and all but all that tells me is that he doesn't get open. Maybe I'm overly hard on London and just jaded by guys like Doctson and Dyami Brown who literally never get open. I'm tired of guys like that. I don't care about size or winning one on one battles. Its a speed game now. Get guys who can fly and use the entire field. I am with you on this. The first things I look for with a WR is the better have good hands and they better be able to seperate. Yeah height, weight, speed and route running are important but without hands and separation...eh. Wilson is my first choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Its a speed game now. Get guys who can fly and use the entire field. That’s where I’m at with WR, elite speed and vertical threat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 What round does Calvin Austin III generally project to go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Just a gut feeling. He struggled to create separation in college. His contested catch % is nice and all but all that tells me is that he doesn't get open. Maybe I'm overly hard on London and just jaded by guys like Doctson and Dyami Brown who literally never get open. I'm tired of guys like that. I don't care about size or winning one on one battles. Its a speed game now. Get guys who can fly and use the entire field. Actually Dyami was a down field threat coming out. Nothing like London. And Doctson was nothing like either of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 46 minutes ago, Ball Security said: What’s the most likely team to trade up to us now after some of the FA movement? Would it be NO in order to get ahead of Houston for a QB? Yeah that's my thinking as well. I'm hoping a QB they like falls to 11 and we can work out some kind of trade down. Maybe a 2nd and 4th or something. At 18(the Saints pick)we can still get a good WR like Burks or Olave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 hours ago, mhd24 said: I actually think Philly will trade up for Stingley (assuming Sauce is long gone). Seattle ALWAYS trades back in the draft. They are a prime spot for Philly to jump. I could Philly moving up for Jordan Davis allowing them to move on from Fletcher Cox in 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 This guy is not getting drafted, but I’d pick up Cole Kelley QB as an UDFA. Not with any intention of grooming him as a full time QB, but as a two point specialist/red zone gadget guy. 6-7 250. Lots of success in the red zone, big guy to bring down, quick release. I’d love for some team (preferably us) to have a specialist to run 2-point conversions. If you can get a unit that can convert at 60-65%, then it’s such an advantage because you’ll have other teams trying to chase those points. With the rule changes to the return game, I think teams could get more out of that type of specialist than a return guy. Tebow would have been excellent at it. Newton could still do it. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cole-kelley/32004b45-4c20-3484-6765-e57cc39396ab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMacAttack Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, KDawg said: Actually Dyami was a down field threat coming out. Nothing like London. And Doctson was nothing like either of them. And drafting a deep threat with a QB in place in Fitz who took shots downfield. Taylor couldn't make the throws if Dyami got open. Hopefully this year we see some big plays from Dyami. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 My goal was to try and set us up next year with top picks to take a QB if Spencer Williams is available. If quality isn't there, we could accumulate picks for the 2024 draft instead. When I got to 29, the value wasn't there, but the Jags wanted to trade up, so I olbiged them for an extra 3rd to drop down 4 spots to pick up a quality safety in Cine and picked up our Collins replacement with Asamoah. I couldn't say no to Christian Watson in the 4th - that is a huge target to throw to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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