ESPN.com: Massage therapists sue Houston Texans QB Deshaun Watson; he calls allegations 'baseless'

[Barry.Randolphe]

6 hours ago, Florgon79 said:

The thing that doesn't make sense to me is why an athlete and the pinnacle of a sport would need to do something like this to get action. I'm not saying he did or didn't do what he is accused of doing, I just don't understand why you would when you probably have women throwing themselves at you regularly. 

 

It goes along with athletes drunk driving. You are making millions of dollars and have Bentleys in your garage. Hire a chauffeur for crying out loud. You're not even supposed to drive a Bentley, you're supposed to be driven in one.

 

Maybe he's just a sexual deviant that gets off on some kind of power trip taking advantage of these women? Or maybe he just feels entitled to women since he's been so successful from college until now?

[DJHJR86]

https://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/PICS/MAR2021/watson-lawsuit-redacted-pdf.PDF

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499204637/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-2#from_embed

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499308891/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-3

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499443622/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-4

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499443689/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-5

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499446992/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-6

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499450273/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-7

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499802450/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-8

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499802619/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-9

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499843543/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-10

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499808089/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-11

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499818820/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-12

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/499832706/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-13

 

Read all of those and you will see a clear, disgusting pattern of behavior.  The almost complete media silence over this is really mind blowing.  

[Taylor 36]

2 hours ago, DJHJR86 said:

Read all of those and you will see a clear, disgusting pattern of behavior.  The almost complete media silence over this is really mind blowing.  

That does paint a picture of a clear MO on his part.  Again, I haven't heard from him yet other than the usually denial, so I don't want to get ahead of myself here, but these documents show a pretty sick individual.  Dude has enough money to get high-class escorts every night; why would he go this route unless there is something really wrong with him?

[757SeanTaylor21]

Ok firstly...there's gotta be a lot missing in the middle parts stories. That last one which I read the first and last. She somehow started to rub his inner thigh and then bam busted right in her face and body. Dint you assume that there had to be an indication that he was close to climaxing? And these are professional women massage therapists..you mean to tell me they don't know how to remove themselves from the situation?  Or say they are not comfortable? These stories don't add up one

[DJHJR86]

13 minutes ago, 757SeanTaylor21 said:

Ok firstly...there's gotta be a lot missing in the middle parts stories. That last one which I read the first and last. She somehow started to rub his inner thigh and then bam busted right in her face and body. Dint you assume that there had to be an indication that he was close to climaxing? And these are professional women massage therapists..you mean to tell me they don't know how to remove themselves from the situation?  Or say they are not comfortable? These stories don't add up one

 

We are now over 15 women who have come forward...almost all of them with the same story of him moving his body to make them touch his penis, but somehow they don't add up?  

 

 

[757SeanTaylor21]

1 minute ago, DJHJR86 said:

 

We are now over 15 women who have come forward...almost all of them with the same story of him moving his body to make them touch his penis, but somehow they don't add up?  

 

 

And you don't think that somehow can't remove themselves from a uncomfortable situation? Or did you read the case in how he somehow managed to bust over simple touching his inner groin....and didn't know he was about to or couldn't say no I won't touch you there? Or how this lawyer can possibly doctor up these stories to sound the same? I mean so if k gather up 15 people to say you did one thing and they are close to the same thing.m.does that make you really guilty? 

[DJHJR86]

6 minutes ago, 757SeanTaylor21 said:

And you don't think that somehow can't remove themselves from a uncomfortable situation? 

 

If you actually read the lawsuits, several of them did remove themselves immediately after the creep exposed himself.  And many of them refused his offer to "do more" for more money.  

[757SeanTaylor21]

3 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:

 

If you actually read the lawsuits, several of them did remove themselves immediately after the creep exposed himself.  And many of them refused his offer to "do more" for more money.  

And you know he's a creep because...he's accused? And again you didn't answer back to my point...if I gather 15 people to corroborate a story together about you....does that make you guilty? Does that make the story true? 

 

What about the fact that his lawyer has proof that one of the plaintiffs has tried to extort him before? Wouldn't this case be in criminal court not civil? I mean come on...

[DJHJR86]

5 minutes ago, 757SeanTaylor21 said:

And you know he's a creep because...he's accused? And again you didn't answer back to my point...if I gather 15 people to corroborate a story together about you....does that make you guilty? Does that make the story true? 

 

What about the fact that his lawyer has proof that one of the plaintiffs has tried to extort him before? Wouldn't this case be in criminal court not civil? I mean come on...

 

If you have 15 different people, all unknown to each other, all of the same profession, all accusing the same person of some sick behavior, where there is smoke, there is fire.  I'm not sitting on a jury, so I don't have to convict him in a court of law, but I believe these women.  

 

As for why these are civil cases and not criminal, remember that the Cosby cases all started out as civil cases.  Criminal cases of sexual assault are much harder to prove, however, when more and more of the civil cases are filed that opens the door for criminal charges to be filed.  

[757SeanTaylor21]

4 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:

 

If you have 15 different people, all unknown to each other, all of the same profession, all accusing the same person of some sick behavior, where there is smoke, there is fire.  I'm not sitting on a jury, so I don't have to convict him in a court of law, but I believe these women.  

 

As for why these are civil cases and not criminal, remember that the Cosby cases all started out as civil cases.  Criminal cases of sexual assault are much harder to prove, however, when more and more of the civil cases are filed that opens the door for criminal charges to be filed.  

If you believe people without there being actual evidence yet his attorney has evidence that he has tried to of been extorted before by said person then that's on you.  Because you know, people never ever do this. 

[DJHJR86]

5 minutes ago, 757SeanTaylor21 said:

If you believe people without there being actual evidence yet his attorney has evidence that he has tried to of been extorted before by said person then that's on you. 

 

The women coming forward with their stories...is actual evidence.  

[CobraCommander]

12 hours ago, Barry.Randolphe said:

 

Maybe he's just a sexual deviant that gets off on some kind of power trip taking advantage of these women? Or maybe he just feels entitled to women since he's been so successful from college until now?

 

He must be because that is not normal behavior for anyone. Entitlement can certainly lead to people thinking they are above it all.

[757SeanTaylor21]

9 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:

 

The women coming forward with their stories...is actual evidence.  

And evidence of extortion is as well

[DJHJR86]

1 minute ago, 757SeanTaylor21 said:

And evidence of extortion is as well

 

Again...if you bothered to read the lawsuits, they are all seeking the minimum amount required ($500) to bring these suits to court.

[Malapropismic Depository]

On 3/20/2021 at 5:23 PM, Destino said:

Multiple accusations doesn’t mean he’s guilty, but it’s a hell of a strong case.  If 12 people were physically present when OJ murdered his victims and testified that they saw him do it, he wouldn’t have gotten away with murder. 

 

 

 

 

Witnesses to murder are treated much different than witnesses to sexual misconduct.

Reason being, is when you have a witness or witnesses to a murder, you usually have multiple convincing and corroborating events to support that a crime has indeed been committed ; a dead body, a crime scene, forensic evidence, and circumstantial evidence.

 

But with a sexual misconduct witness making accusations, at least with this one, all you have is the word of people. No other evidence. At least none that has been submitted and made known to the public.

I don't think that in itself is enough for criminal charges.

I believe if that's all the prosecution has, a Criminal Defense Attorney could potentially tear that apart.

But again, not necessarily true for a Civil Trial. Burden of proof is not as high as Criminal.

 

To be clear, I am not discounting the accusers. Just noting the difference between Civil and Criminal Trials.

A Civil Trial would not surprise me at this point.

 

[BatteredFanSyndrome]

3 hours ago, 757SeanTaylor21 said:

if I gather 15 people to corroborate a story together about you....does that make you guilty? Does that make the story true? 

 

I'm going to wonder how you found 15 people geographically dispersed across the country to band together to paint me as a creep and ruin my life.

 

I understand that false allegations happen all the time.  But how often do you find 15 people with no connections to one another, all willing to go for a ride like this?

 

Obviously, he will get his day in court.  But if I'm betting, I'm betting against him and not for him, just based on logic.

[Taylor 36]

https://sports.yahoo.com/the-lawsuit-that-is-most-problematic-for-deshaun-watson-014827728.html

 

Amidst the pile of lawsuits Deshaun Watson is facing, one could prove to be the most problematic.

[Taylor 36]

22 hours ago, 757SeanTaylor21 said:

And evidence of extortion is as well

Actually, it's evidence that Watson has setup message appointments with a random person found on Instagram for the soul purpose to engage in sexual activities.  This actually gives legitimacy to the other 15 accusers' claims.

[88Comrade2000]

Watson is probably doing some jail time if this goes to criminal court. He’ll do his jail time and then come back to the nfl.

 

Vick came back from dog fighting. Yes, sexual assault isn’t the same thing but if he can still play, after serving jail time; some team will sign him.

[Cooleyfan1993]

So, apparently the Texans were planning to trade him before the allegations started happening 

 

 

[Pape]

On 3/24/2021 at 1:43 PM, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

A Civil Trial would not surprise me at this point.

 

 

All of the lawsuits are civil suits so far. No legal action by the poiice/da has been taken to date.

 

The HPD has said the plaintiffs attorney has not turned over any evidence or paperwork to them, and none of the women involved in the civil suits have filed charges.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/26/houston-police-department-no-evidence-against-deshaun-watson-has-been-submitted/

[Cooleyfan1993]

I’m sorry......what?

[RichmondRedskin88]

Watson is other gonna get buried by these cases or these are attempts to cash in on him and actual sexual assault cases won’t be taken serious in the future.   Either way this is gonna have serious implications. 

[Die Hard]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31171819/two-more-lawsuits-filed-houston-texans-deshaun-watson-pushing-total-21

 

"After the two newest lawsuits appeared on the Harris County District Clerk's website on Wednesday morning, Hardin released statements from 18 women who say they have worked with the Texans quarterback and that he "never made them feel uncomfortable or demanded anything outside the scope of a professional massage." Watson's attorney said the statements were voluntary and from women who have collectively "worked with Deshaun more than 130 times over the past five years."

 

As a physical therapist, I'll say this.

 

This is an industry that is *very* loyal. Working with people at the therapeutic (rehab) level..... if a patient gets 'results' with you..... then you're their 'go to' new physical ailments/maladies arise or even prevention/maintenance plans. You become part of their 'family'.

 

That fact that he's worked with 20 therapists.... that are filing suits.... in addition to another 18 female therapists who have performed 130 treatment over 5 years. That many therapists over 5 years?!?!?! And given the fact that he's soliciting them through Instagram?!?! That all he apparently has worked exclusively with females (or at least what we know of so far).

 

Truly abnormal behavior.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

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My takeaway: how many ****ing massages does this guy get? lol...