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Presidential Election: 11/3/20 ---Now the President Elect Joe Biden Thread


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Here is a funny clip from Jimmy Dore's show giving some insight into how much further right the right has gone since Reagan.   This guy from the Reagan administration is taking this panel of modern right-wingers to task on Fox Business channel.  Keep in mind Reagan era GOP were still "Neo-cons" as well, but the 2019 versions are so much worse.

 

Warning: NSFW language

 

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1 hour ago, Llevron said:

I really though the health scare was going to end Burnies chances but he’s getting stronger right? Super surprising to me 

The Berniesters are like Trumpsters in one way. No matter what matter what, they will support their guy.

 

Bernie has a solid support of at least 15% and they will remain with him until the very end. Bernie could run as an independent against Trump and Warren and he'll still get about 15%. Only difference between a 3rd party Bernie run in 2020 vs. Ross Perot in 92, Bernie would actually win some electoral votes.

 

Bernie has that solid base of support, so he's not going anywhere. He won't be the nominee but he will make it harder for Lizzie to win the nomination early.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:
 

Biden really going to go 1-3 in the early contests.

 

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/10/29/.top2_nh.pdf

 

Iowa is probably going to Warren.  New Hampshire, who don't like to vote like Iowa will give Sanders a win.  Not sure about Nevada.  This poll from a month ago, shows a close race:

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-6866.html

 

If one candidate could win the first 3, that gives big momentum going into South Carolina and Super Tuesday.  If Joe didn't have solid support among older African Americans; Joe would be nowhere.  That's really the only thing keep him competitive; that solid support among older African Americans.   Really wish they would open their eyes to other candidates.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

I had never seen this before, good stuff.  

 

Jimmy Dore is a comedian, but he is also a lefty mcleftstein.  I can take him in small doses, but the "Dems & Repubs are all the same" stuff wears thin after awhile.  I mostly stick to the 10 min clips like the one I posted, they tend to be the best highlights of his 2-3 hour shows. 

 

That clip specific just encapsulated how quick the modern GOP will turn on life-long Republicans as soon as they step out of whatever the current party line is. 

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19 hours ago, Llevron said:

I really though the health scare was going to end Burnies chances but he’s getting stronger right? Super surprising to me 

It's hard to tell. This cycle we see this a lot, where someone seems up for a few days and then down a few days later. Not certain yet Bernie is where he was when he had the heart attack.

 

Even if he is, his problem remains what it always was- he seems to have the lowest ceiling int he Dem primary. Too many dislike him for the way a lot of his supporters behave, the fact that he never joined the party, they blame him for some of Hillary's problems, they are scared of nominating a self-describe Socialist, or someone his age, etc. I would still maintain that winning over the voters who were so dead-set against him got harder with the heart attack.

 

As I said when all the endorsements happened, I thought the only thing that could come of them was to stall Warren's momentum, split the progressive vote and therefore help Biden. If anything has happened, that seems to be it.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/10/30/twitter-ban-all-political-ads-amid-election-uproar/

 

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Twitter on Wednesday said it would ban all advertisements about political candidates, elections and hot-button policy issues such as abortion and immigration, a significant shift that comes in response to growing concerns that politicians are seizing on the vast reach of social media to deceive voters ahead of the 2020 election.

 

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey announced the shift in policy in a series of tweets, stressing that paying for political speech has the effect of “forcing highly optimized and targeted political messages on people.” The move marks a break with Twitter’s social-media peers, Facebook and Google-owned YouTube, which have defended their policies around political ads in recent weeks.

 

Now just get rid of the bots.  

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On 10/29/2019 at 1:49 PM, Rdskns2000 said:

 

Iowa is probably going to Warren.  New Hampshire, who don't like to vote like Iowa will give Sanders a win. 

 

That's a myth (if it's anything). She won't lose NH because she wins Iowa. A win in Iowa likely gives her a small bump in New Hampshire, and probably a drop of a couple of points for Biden.

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The real contenders:  Biden, Warren & Sanders

 

Stalking Horse: Buttigieg.  He could actually finish 2nd in Iowa. 

 

Those 4 candidates are the only ones who seems like will be in the Top 4 and make it out of Iowa.

 

2nd Desperate Tier: Harris, Klobuchar, Booker, O'Rourke  -  They are desperate.  Money is low.  Beto & Kamala have faded from earilier highs. They really are hopingfor a Biden collapse. I think Biden will collapse but it won't happen late February or Early March.   Can they raise money to be viable for those February primary/caucuses?  Kamala is pinning everything on Iowa it seems.  

 

Vanity Candidates:  Yang, Gabbard, Steyers,Willamson.  Andrew can hang around as long as he wants to spend his money. Tulsi is prepping for a 3rd party- Syrian/Hindu/Russian funded run.  Tom is in heaven now, with impeachment finally happening.  MarryAnne- needs to sell those books.

 

 Going Nowhere: Sestak, Messum, Bennett, Bullock, Castro & Delany. No shot guys, time to drop out.

 

I still think it's Warren's to lose.  The interesting dynamic will be; will Joe fade like I think or will Joe be fighting Lizzie tooth and nail?   If Lizzie wins the first 3 and Joe can't do anything in South Carolina; will there be a stop Warren movement?  Actually, that movement is probably happening now but who can stop Lizzie if Joe fades?

 

 

 




 

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AOC laying it on a bit thick there.   

 

I am waiting for the Primary to get down to at least only 5 candidates before I buy into any trends.  So much can change once we get out of the "you have thirty seconds to answer this complex question" phase of the primary.

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I too didnt know I was a person until Bernie Sanders told me I was one. 

 

I dunno. Maybe its true for her. That would make me question her though. And the Burn tweeting it out. Stooooop we already have one of those we dont want more of it. 

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