TSO Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Alrighty guys and gals... as we discussed in the other discussion thread, we're going to do a new discussion thread for each day so as to avoid the "mega thread" conundrum and make it easier for people in the future to go through them when needed. So, as mentioned before: Quote DO NOT, FOR ANY REASON, POST A TWEET OR ANY OTHER SOURCE OF ANY DRAFT PICK BEFORE IT IS ANNOUNCED ON TV. NO. FRIGGIN. SPOILERS. Again, NO SPOILERS!!!!! This isn't a debate. You might not care and might want to know early, but others do care and enjoy the anticipation. Your post will be immediately deleted and you will likely face additional time off. Thanks. Keep it clean, fellas. Don't ruin this for anyone (with spoilers or by being a general ass), remember nothing is set in stone yet, draft grades don't matter right now, guys you don't like will pan out, guys you do like won't, we won't know for at least a couple years, and let's just have some fun as a (super) dysfunctional ES family rooting for them to "get it right". See also the "Index" thread by our esteemed @PCS for up to date info (not a discussion thread, please do NOT post there): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 FWIW, DPB's second round as we currently stand: 2017 NFL Mock Draft: Second-round picks include Dalvin Cook, DeShone Kizer - CBSSports.com Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 This is the most concise TSO OP ever. Let's get this thing going. I want a teeth rattling ILB, an EDGE beast, and a slick wheelin' DB. Let's roll!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actorguy1 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I was momentarily excited to go up and get Cook, but I have been anti trade up all along and this is no time to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Go get Cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky52Mc Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Really hoping we don't trade up, there's been a real run of players in these past few drafts and you can catch some excellent value by holding firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 Rings Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Starts at 7 et right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksun247 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Get the highest rated pass rusher in round 2. Do not trade up. Use the pick unless we receive an offer we can't refuse and trade back. Get whatever you can for Matt Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeBilly Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 At the end of the last thread, it mentioned the bucs being interested in moving up. Duh....I would think ever GM would call and find out the price to move up to the first pick. It is a simple phone call and you have all day. Every team picking after the 5th pick today should be checking the price of moving up to #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campfodder Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Samuel from Ohio State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, 3 Rings said: Starts at 7 et right?? Right. BPA regardless please Bruce today. Don't window-dress your board because you get hooked on someone. We'll worry about need tomorrow to fill holes. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 Rings Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Just now, Gibbs Hog Heaven said: Right. BPA regardless please Bruce today. Don't window-dress your board because you get hooked on someone. We'll worry about need tomorrow to fill holes. Hail. Yes. This!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I'm okay with moving up for Cook, as long as its not our 3rd rounder. Our 2nd and 4th for someone else's 2nd to ensure we get Cook is perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeBilly Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Since this is the last chance to have this conversation and there were rumors of the browns asking about Kirk. So, if the team can't or won't sign Kirk long term, do you make this trade - the browns second 2nd round pick (#20 in the round) and their highest/best first round pick next year for Kirk? This would give us more ammo this year, plus 2 1st next year to combine and go after our rookie sensation. Just trying to fill the time until the draft starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Warhead36 said: I'm okay with moving up for Cook, as long as its not our 3rd rounder. Our 2nd and 4th for someone else's 2nd to ensure we get Cook is perfectly fine. Yeah. I said the same exact thing earlier today. After last nights steal, add a real RB and the rest of the draft is gravy from there IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters20 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Give me: 2. Malik McDowell 3. Alex Anzalone/ Raekwon McMillan/Tim Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, ILikeBilly said: Since this is the last chance to have this conversation and there were rumors of the browns asking about Kirk. So, if the team can't or won't sign Kirk long term, do you make this trade - the browns second 2nd round pick (#20 in the round) and their highest/best first round pick next year for Kirk? This would give us more ammo this year, plus 2 1st next year to combine and go after our rookie sensation. Just trying to fill the time until the draft starts. So we roll with McCoy, stack up on quality players elsewhere, essentially tank this season and go get our QB next year? Leaves you looking three years down the line before we're back winning. You think the fanbase would wear that? Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Gibbs Hog Heaven said: So we roll with McCoy, stack up on quality players elsewhere, essentially tank this season and go get our QB next year? Leaves you looking three years down the line before were back winning. You think the fanbase would wear that? Hail. No they wouldnt. Now give us their 2 tonight and both ones next year???? That is a bit more intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Prefer to keep our 2 picks tonight or try and get a 3rd one if possible. Lets hope for another couple of studs on D falling our way. Would love starting 3 down ILB or Edge rusher with the first two picks and if we get a third go S or RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 Rings Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I'm okay with moving up for Cook, as long as its not our 3rd rounder. Our 2nd and 4th for someone else's 2nd to ensure we get Cook is perfectly fine. Our 2nd and a fourth won't get us in position to take Cook. Would have to be our 3rd and a 4th or both 4's and a pick next year. IMO. We probably need Cook to also fall to Chicago to make the move. Lots of "ifs" unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacePenguin Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, ILikeBilly said: Since this is the last chance to have this conversation and there were rumors of the browns asking about Kirk. So, if the team can't or won't sign Kirk long term, do you make this trade - the browns second 2nd round pick (#20 in the round) and their highest/best first round pick next year for Kirk? This would give us more ammo this year, plus 2 1st next year to combine and go after our rookie sensation. Just trying to fill the time until the draft starts. No, a B level (minus or plus is debatable) proven NFL QB is worth 10 "rookie sensations". Trading away the near certainty of a dangerous offense that a good QB provides for extra lotto tickets is not something I could ever agree with. Of course, if they're dumb enough to let Kirk get away next season trying to save a few million dollars (or Bruce Allen's ego), then I have lost all interest in this team. Trade everyone for draft picks and bring in some more Tampa Bay lackies. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Butters20 said: 3. Alex Anzalone/ Raekwon McMillan/Tim Williams Of those three 1 is often injured and the second is/will be often suspended... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeBilly Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gibbs Hog Heaven said: So we roll with McCoy, stack up on quality players elsewhere, essentially tank this season and go get our QB next year? Leaves you looking three years down the line before we're back winning. You think the fanbase would wear that? Hail. Not if next years QB class is as good as rumored. Also, we won with Robert as a rookie, the hawks won with Wilson and colts with Luck as rookies. Again - I know it isn't happening, but if the team knows Kirk is only here for 1 year (whatever the reason), do you make the trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 1 minute ago, ILikeBilly said: Not if next years QB class is as good as rumored. Also, we won with Robert as a rookie, the hawks won with Wilson and colts with Luck as rookies. Again - I know it isn't happening, but if the team knows Kirk is only here for 1 year (whatever the reason), do you make the trade? Sitting on the fence answer but it's the best I got. Depend's who's still on the board to make it viable. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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