Ball Security Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 10:15 PM, The Almighty Buzz said: Only putting this here because it has the word “Russia” in the article. Can anyone elaborate more? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-s-campaign-paid-tech-firm-to-infiltrate-trump-servers/ar-AATMBcX?li=BBnbcA1 Good reading on the topic. https://www.wonkette.com/what-the-hell-are-the-wingers-on-about-now-with-john-durham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 LULLLLZZZZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Russia's Lavrov urges Putin to allow more time for diplomacy amid Ukraine crisis Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Monday suggested to President Vladimir Putin that Moscow continue along the diplomatic path in its efforts to extract security guarantees from the West, as tensions soar over Ukraine. Lavrov told Putin the United States had put forward concrete proposals on reducing military risks, but said responses from the European Union and NATO military alliance had not been satisfactory. In a televised exchange, Putin was shown asking Lavrov whether there was a chance of reaching an agreement to address Russia’s security concerns, or whether it was just being dragged into tortuous negotiations. Lavrov replied: “We have already warned more than once that we will not allow endless negotiations on questions that demand a solution today.” But as foreign minister, he said, “I must say there are always chances.” He added: “It seems to me that our possibilities are far from exhausted… At this stage, I would suggest continuing and building them up.” Click on the link for the full article -------------------------------------------------------- Ukraine-Russia tensions: Russia pulls some troops back from border Russia says it is pulling back some of its troops from near Ukraine after a build-up raised fears of an invasion. The defence ministry said that large-scale drills continued but that some units were returning to their bases. There has been no independent confirmation of the withdrawal and international powers have reacted cautiously to the announcement. More than 100,000 Russian troops have massed at Ukraine's border. Russia has always denied it is planning an attack. Click on the link for the full article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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China Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 This Surprise ‘Mystery Bridge’ Could Be Putin’s Secret Path to War Images of the bridge captured by satellite near the Russian border may be spilling the Kremlin’s hidden plans for Ukraine. Vladimir Putin says Russia is ordering a “partial” drawdown of troops, but satellites overhead are offering a much more mixed picture of the massive Russian military buildup now menacing Ukraine. Photos taken by the commercial imaging company Planet showed that Russian troops have built a pontoon bridge on Tuesday across the Pripyat river near the Russia-Belarus border. It’s situated near the exclusion zone surrounding the damaged nuclear reactor at Chernobyl in Ukraine, the scene of a 1986 reactor meltdown. The imagery comes as Ukraine and NATO countries remain on edge amidst mixed signals about a Russian military buildup on a scale not seen in decades. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 One patoon bridge is Putins secret to the war? Eh… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Russian people, do you want your young men and women entering the nuclear zone that will subject them to disease and death? That's the message that needs to get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) It might be time to open a Russia/Ukraine war thread. My biggest question, and this is a genuine question because I don’t have a full understanding of all the dynamics, but why can’t we (and like a dozen other NATO countries) collectively deploy like 50k troops into Ukraine? Putin might want to invade for whatever reason but he’s not going to authorize attacking troops from US/UK/Germany/France, etc. I know Ukraine isn’t a NATO member but NATO seems to have incentive to try to prevent Russia from invading. Edited February 17, 2022 by TheGoodBits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, TheGoodBits said: It might be time to open a Russia/Ukraine war thread. My biggest question, and this is a genuine question because I don’t have a full understanding of all the dynamics, but why can’t we (and like a dozen other NATO countries) collectively deploy like 50k troops into Ukraine? Putin might want to invade for whatever reason but he’s not going to authorize attacking troops from US/UK/Germany/France, etc. I know Ukraine isn’t a NATO member but NATO seems to have incentive to try to prevent Russia from invading. Probably because it’s not worth the risk. Russia already sees western influence in Ukraine as a security threat. One could obliterated imagine how much more serious a threat the would view nato troops actually in Ukraine. It would one accident or misunderstanding to cause a full blown war. If Russia invaded Ukraine, United States influence over Western Europe increases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Bombing seems to be underway near the city of Stanytsia Louganska. Leaders from western countries and NATO will have a videoconference about it. (US, UK, Canada, NATO, Germany, France, Italy, UE). So that's really not looking good at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) And the pretext is here: Edited February 18, 2022 by visionary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Well, ****. edit: not really much on the mainstream news sights about it… Edited February 18, 2022 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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China Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 ‘What Mr. Putin did not want’: U.S. approves $6B tank deal with Poland The State Department on Friday approved a long-awaited $6 billion deal to sell Poland 250 Abrams tanks, an announcement that comes as more U.S. troops and aircraft flood into the country in the face of a possible Russian invasion of Ukraine. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced the deal early Friday while in a Warsaw press conference alongside his Polish counterpart Mariusz Blaszczak. “What Mr. Putin did not want was a stronger NATO on his flank, and that’s exactly what he has today,” Austin said. Click on the link for the full article 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Two more days till the Olympics end 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Yeah that's almost a given Putin will wait for the end of Olympic truce before doing anything stupid. Because no matter what he's saying, he's going to war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Don’t know if everyone saw Biden’s press conference but one of the things he said was he know believes that Putin has made the decision to invade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Aka the chance at diplomacy is over. I really hope this doesn’t turn into a wider conflict in Europe. But once Russia does decide to invade Ukraine the chances of misunderstanding go up. We all know NATOs response will be to station more troops closer to Eastern Europe, and in turn, russia will send more troops to western Russia. I have a hard time believing Russia will do something this stupid. Have they not learned anything from our time in Iraq? Edited February 18, 2022 by CousinsCowgirl84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tshile Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: I have a hard time believing Russia will do something this stupid. Have they not learned anything from our time in Iraq? If they take the eastern half it should be pretty simple and full of pro-Russia people. if they don’t bother with the western half it’ll probably not turn into much. But everything I read says the western half would be almost like another Afghanistan. Terrain makes it impossible to root them out without super high casualties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 10 days. That is when I am officially retired. 10 more days. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Worth a read. and consider the long term implications for NATO if Trump is elected in 2024 and removes sanctions on Russia in the midst of our greatest conflict with them since the end of the Cold War. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, TheGoodBits said: Worth a read. and consider the long term implications for NATO if Trump is elected in 2024 and removes sanctions on Russia in the midst of our greatest conflict with them since the end of the Cold War. Well, the article doesn’t talk about that specifically. Maybe you can feel us in? I don’t see it as being that bad. I mean, it further erodes the United States status in the world but I don’t think Germany or France would particularly care if sanctions were lifted. Eastern Europe would feel a little uncomfortable. China would of course be embolden to take Taiwan, but they are probably going to take it anyway. I agree with the article, you can basically substitute United States military for NATO though. And Europe will increase its military spending. As long as it doesn’t spill over into major conflict it’s not a bad thing for the Unite States, but as the author pointed out, a lot of countries are going to be on a razors edge. Russia can play the energy game for another 30-50 years the it has to find another way to influence Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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