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Dan T. Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 He lacks human empathy. He's a sociopath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 So the one who isn't even working for the administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 *Chefs kiss* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 It's not the vape that's the problem...it's the person. Oh wrong stance on a subject.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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visionary Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Hmmm. People seem pretty upset from what I've seen today and don't want to go back to smoking cigarettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 This guy's name is Bush George? That's definitely a fake name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koala Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, visionary said: Hmmm. People seem pretty upset from what I've seen today and don't want to go back to smoking cigarettes. I think people are just getting sick of being yanked around all the time. Once again, greed ruined something that could actually be sold at a reasonable profit to responsible adults for legitimate use. You know, if e-cig manufacturers werent so greedy, they might have had a future as a niche product -- there just had to be some honesty involved somewhere. E-cigs were billed as a safe alternative to cigarettes, a good way to stop smoking. It worked for some people, honestly I used e-cigs to help me stop smoking. Even some physicians debated prescribing them to patients who wanted to stop smoking. But if that's how it's going to be labeled, then the FDA should be involved. The FDA is given charge of ensuring proper labeling on all food products, safety of food products, as well as the medical products, biological, drugs, etc E-cigs didn't fit into any of those categories, so they escaped FDA classification that would have required more stringent testing on the safety of its use. E-cig manufacturers could have sponsored one clinical trial, so we could find out in a scientific setting, what exactly is the amount of harm related to vaping. They might even have identified which chemicals used were linked with increased risk for harm, taken them out of the product, and then been able to sell vaping as an FDA-approved, safer alternative to cigarettes. Even if vaping was found to have some harmful elements, I suspect that in the end it is still faaaaar less harmful than cigarettes and maybe even the nicotine patches, and the FDA may still have approved its sale as safer alternative to cigarettes and nicotrol. But, nope, they had to be greedy, lied and claimed something they had no proof on. Now that's it's not true, they have lost the entire trust of the public and I suspect its only a matter of time before they are banned completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 it would be very Murica for a handful of vaping deaths to cause change, while we await the next report of a mass shooting with an AR-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 This all seems sort of unbelievable to me, because while I don't smoke I see a lot of people vaping and I've seen a bunch of vaping stores and the like around the last few years. Does this effect Hookah as well, because I've been seeing hookah places everywhere for even longer and they seem pretty common too now. And is this being done anywhere else or just here in the US where tobacco companies have a lot of power? Hopefully this doesn't result in a lot more people smoking cigarettes. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LadySkinsFan Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 The problems related to vaping are the various oils added that end up staying in the lungs and corrupting lung tissue to the point of oxygen not being absorbed into the tissue. People are literally suffocated. These oils and the way they corrupt lung tissue most likely have never been studied/tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, LadySkinsFan said: The problems related to vaping are the various oils added that end up staying in the lungs and corrupting lung tissue to the point of oxygen not being absorbed into the tissue. People are literally suffocated. These oils and the way they corrupt lung tissue most likely have never been studied/tested. I saw a lot of people saying it’s black market ingredients that’s mainly linked to the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Saw this on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bozo the kKklown Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 This is a guy that went crazy talking about Obama wiretapped him. Now a foreign government tries to and it's water under the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skintime Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 18 hours ago, Dan T. said: He lacks human empathy. He's a sociopath. As are those that support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 19 hours ago, Llevron said: Can still legally buy a gun from any crackhead you want though. 19 hours ago, mistertim said: The NVA (National Vaping Association) hasn't built up a powerful enough lobby yet. Tobacco lobby still has a lot of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Tobacco lobby still has a lot of power. You know I thought the e-cigs had killed them up until this week. I dont even know what made me think that but I was definitely under that assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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