Botched Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Brady is considered by many to be the best QB in the league. He is typically top 5 in every meaningful statistical category, yet this year, he barely cracks the top half of the league in any of them. Shouldn't this be a big deal? 9 touchdowns (17th) 6 interceptions (14th) 1824 passing yards (15th) Comp%: 55.7 (29th) YPA: 5.9 (30th) QB rating: 74.9 (27th) He hasn't had a QB rating over 75 in a game since last month. He's thrown 2 TDs in his last 4 games combined. Meanwhile, the Patriots are 6-2. So what's going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Because as bad as he's played, they're still 6-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 No one is talking about it as much (or as much as they should) 1) Because before the season, everyone figured that with all the weapons he lost (and the lack of adequate relacements, coupled with some rookies, who will play the most difficult position for rookie players), the team would struggle, 2) Because he is Tom Brady, 3 time SB winner/MVP, legend ( and even if he played like **** for the entire game, and somehow led a game winning drive, it would be classified as "Tom Brady being Tom Brady") and 3) the defense has started to play a lot better than they have been, along with the team winning. Hard to yell "Fire" too much when they're 6-2. They're scratching and clawing, but they're still getting W's. And also, the Pats have shown over time, that they can make adjustments with the players they have, or with their schemes, and get W's no matter what. Brady also wasn't really setting the world on fire statistically when he was winning SB's. They leaned on their running game, and when it came time to make crucial throws in a game... He made them. When he started to become a stat monster, they started losing, because their defense started to get old, and eventually suck, and because they became one dimensional. Oh, he also has historically had absurdly awesome protection, and when he doesn't get it, he becomes a mere mortal, like every other QB. His game is pocket oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 6-2. That's why. Show me how many QB's can overcome the loss of not one, not two, but THREE of his top pass catchers from last year and is just now getting one back? How about one of the biggest money throws against New Orleans for a comeback win? Clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 6-2. That's why. Show me how many QB's can overcome the loss of not one, not two, but THREE of his top pass catchers from last year and is just now getting one back? How about one of the biggest money throws against New Orleans for a comeback win? Clutch. In the past, Tom Brady could. He played with garbage receivers for the first several years of his career, and for all three Super Bowl wins. That is why it's so interesting that he's playing like crap this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 He's 36. This could be the beginning of the end for him. Eventually, instead of 6-2; the Pats will only capable going 2-6 with Tom Brady. The Pats needs to start looking to groom Tom's successor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Because they're winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 In the past, Tom Brady could. He's doing it right now (along with the rest of the team)... Besides you have to factor in the difference in eras. NFL rules seems to favor more wide open sexy Fantasy Football offenses. And the guys he won SB's with may be considered garbage compared to what other QB's won multiple SB's with, or what he had in Stallworth/Moss/Welker/Gronk/Hernandez, but guys like Branch, Givens, Patten, Brown, Watson/Graham weren't slouches. They were more of an all-around team, in an all-around era, that bended but didn't break, played ball control/mistake free, and did what they had to do to get the W. How can you possibly look at this current scenario objectively, and basically sum it up as "What's wrong with Brady?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Brady is considered by many to be the best QB in the league. He is typically top 5 in every meaningful statistical category, yet this year, he barely cracks the top half of the league in any of them. Shouldn't this be a big deal? 9 touchdowns (17th) 6 interceptions (14th) 1824 passing yards (15th) Comp%: 55.7 (29th) YPA: 5.9 (30th) QB rating: 74.9 (27th) He hasn't had a QB rating over 75 in a game since last month. He's thrown 2 TDs in his last 4 games combined. Meanwhile, the Patriots are 6-2. So what's going on? If the team was losing then I think this would be a bigger deal. Thanks to them being 6-2, and because it's well publicized that his top 5 targets last year were all abscent for most of the year thus far, it's basically been downplayed. Show me how many QB's can overcome the loss of not one, not two, but THREE of his top pass catchers from last year and is just now getting one back? Even worse than that. It was his top five up to this point (four going forward now that Gronks back). Welker had 118 receptions. Lloyd had 74. Gronk had 55. Hernandez had 51. And Woodhead had 40. Edleman is the only player with more than 20 catches last year (21) that's been active all season long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Brady had a messed up thumb yesterday, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 The QB is truely dependent on the players around him to produce and the Pats are still winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWolf990 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 the Patriots defense is the story this year, imo. THem dudes are good. Cant imagine how good they would be if everyone was healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 You can tell it's getting towards the end for them. They're still winning, but they aren't dominating anymore. Winning by the skin of their teeth. They could be 4-4 of not for the comeback against New Orleans and Miami's meltdown last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 He's doing it right now (along with the rest of the team)... Besides you have to factor in the difference in eras. NFL rules seems to favor more wide open sexy Fantasy Football offenses. And the guys he won SB's with may be considered garbage compared to what other QB's won multiple SB's with, or what he had in Stallworth/Moss/Welker/Gronk/Hernandez, but guys like Branch, Givens, Patten, Brown, Watson/Graham weren't slouches. They were more of an all-around team, in an all-around era, that bended but didn't break, played ball control/mistake free, and did what they had to do to get the W. How can you possibly look at this current scenario objectively, and basically sum it up as "What's wrong with Brady?" Because from an individual standpoint, he's having the worst year of his entire career. He's fallen off a cliff statistically. How could there not be something wrong with Tom Brady? This year he's on pace for 18 TDs, 12 INTs, 0 rush TDs, his ypa is down by almost 2 from last year (that is huge), and his passer rating is 24 points lower. He went from elite, HOF production, to Christian Ponder production, in one year. It's amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with him. I'm just saying how can it be just him. I've already explained what I think is wrong. I think he is easier to rattle, and get taken out of his game. Lucky for him, the overall team is still good enough to win games. I think his performance will improve as the season goes on, and he gets some guys back, and the new guys develop better chemistry. Losing your top 5 targets, as well as some lineman is usually a death sentence for any QB. That's my overall point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 I think he'll get better too. In fact, me posting this thread pretty much guarantees that he'll have a 400 yard, 5TD game next week. But the first half of this season has been shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 There is no groundswell of panic coming from Boston yet because the fackin Red Sax ah in the Series. Also, people expected a down year because of the loss of weapons but the fact that they are 6-2 calms things down quite a bit. Once the MLB season is over, if Brady is still playing terrible, it will get a little more mention. Everybody for some reason, is obsessed with Boston sports and they get a pass in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 It would be nice if there were one year that a Boston sports team wasn't a Championship contender. I'm sick of everything Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 What is so shocking about it? Consider the pieces he lost on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornempowered Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Don't you know the rules. You cannot speak negatively about Brady or Belichek. Even if they cheat. I don't think he is playing terrible but the Patriots seem to be untouchable for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 What is so shocking about it? Consider the pieces he lost on offense. Do you think Brady is a mediocre to poor quarterback who only looked good because of his receivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Because they are 6-2, with numerous injuries to their big time receivers. They have 2 rookies starting at WR right? And they just recently got Gronk back. But they are finding ways to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Do you think Brady is a mediocre to poor quarterback who only looked good because of his receivers?Nope. Why do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 6-2. That's why. Show me how many QB's can overcome the loss of not one, not two, but THREE of his top pass catchers from last year and is just now getting one back? How about one of the biggest money throws against New Orleans for a comeback win? Clutch. Aaron Rodgers says "hello". Greg Jennings walked, Donald Driver retired, and then James Jones, Randall Cobb and Jermichael Finley lost to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 What is so shocking about it? Consider the pieces he lost on offense.Exactly. It would only be shocking if he were putting up these numbers...and losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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