drowland Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Llevron said: He was clearly moving. Turned his shoulder like a **** too. Dude did not have defensive position Doesn't matter, the call never should have been reviewed in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Jordan would have told Smith the score. That play is going to haunt Lebron for the rest of his laugh. That play haunted JR Smith until his second glass of Armand de Brignac. The Warriors are going to win by 30 on Sunday. The planets just can't align any better for the Cavs than they did there. By the way, I may officially be tired of the Warriors. I could tolerate their total indifference towards the regular season. But they have now slept-walked through a dozen playoff games, and it doesn't seem to matter because they have two MVPs and several All-Stars. They give maybe 8 minutes of gorgeous basketball per game now and spend the rest of the time dicking around. If they are going to dominate the league, they owe us something pretty. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Reversing a borderline block/charge call on a replay review to favor the home team is the epitome of why the NBA sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I don't think there was anything borderline about it. Its a block all day and has been since blocking fouls were added to the game. He's still moving his feet and his body and is in no way in a defensive position. I don't think it should have been reviewed though because he wasn't close to the restricted. Either way, we are upset today for a ridiculous charge foul or a ridiculous review and overturn of ridiculous charge foul. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: I don't think there was anything borderline about it. Its a block all day and has been since blocking fouls were added to the game. He's still moving his feet and his body and is in no way in a defensive position. I don't think it should have been reviewed though because he wasn't close to the restricted. Either way, we are upset today for a ridiculous charge foul or a ridiculous review and overturn of ridiculous charge foul. If an NBA official calls it a charge in real time, it's borderline. If Steve Javie, who reffed in the NBA for a quarter century and is ABC's so-called expert on officiating says it was a charge after reviewing it, it's borderline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dan T. said: If an NBA official calls it a charge in real time, it's borderline. If Steve Javie, who reffed in the NBA for a quarter century and is ABC's so-called expert on officiating says it was a charge after reviewing it, it's borderline. The old man has lost it. There is a reason he got forced into early retirement. Im kidding I still don't think it's borderline but after seeing the reaction to this, I apparently don't know what a charge is and have been wrong about one my entire life. Edited June 1, 2018 by Momma There Goes That Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 It was a block, clearly. Bron might be the only player in the last 20 years who even gets a charge call in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: The old man has lost it. There is a reason he got forced into early retirement. Im kidding I still don't think it's borderline but after seeing the reaction to this, I apparently don't know what a charge is and have been wrong about one my entire life. I've made hundreds of block/charge calls over the years officiating basketball. And probably a third could have gone either way, really. They are often the toughest calls to make. If I saw that clip fresh in a "you make the call" type deal, I probably call it a block, with the benefit of multiple reviews and slo-mo. But that's not the point. The NBA has a stupid mechanism in place to second guess that one judgement call. It sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Evil Genius Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, drowland said: Doesn't matter, the call never should have been reviewed in the first place. The review was triggered because there was a question by the refs if the defensive player was in the restricted zone. It was legit review on a bang bang play. The outcome of the review is always what is in question. Btw, I didn't think Thompson's foul warranted an ejection. His punch did. Both he and Kevin Love are possible suspensions for Game 2. Love left the bench and entered the court during the scuffle (to allegedly argue Thompson's ejection). By rule, that should be automatic 1 game suspension. Edit..dang chew beat me to it. Edited June 1, 2018 by The Evil Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: The review was triggered because there was a question by the refs if the defensive player was in the restricted zone. It was legit review on a bang bang play. The outcome of the review is always what is in question. If the lead (baseline) and the C (sideline) officials couldn't see that James was WELL out of the restricted zone, they should hang up their whistles. He was a two feet away from the arc at least. They used that as an excuse to review the blarge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Berggy9598 said: Are you kidding You can never be certain with me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: Jordan would have told Smith the score. Nah, his radiant afterglow would've willed George Hill to make that free throw, or make JR automatically put it back in for the go ahead bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: The old man has lost it. There is a reason he got forced into early retirement. Im kidding I still don't think it's borderline but after seeing the reaction to this, I apparently don't know what a charge is and have been wrong about one my entire life. They've changed the charge rule, I think 3 years ago. You no longer have to be completely stationary (and I don't think that was never the rule. The rule was your feet had to be set). They've gone to the phrase of a legal defensive position. JVG commented on this last night during the game. Lebron wasn't out of control of off balance and didn't leave his feet. He had a good defensive position and was out of the restricted area. Edited June 1, 2018 by PeterMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: The review was triggered because there was a question by the refs if the defensive player was in the restricted zone. It was legit review on a bang bang play. The outcome of the review is always what is in question. Btw, I didn't think Thompson's foul warranted an ejection. His punch did. Both he and Kevin Love are possible suspensions for Game 2. Love left the bench and entered the court during the scuffle (to allegedly argue Thompson's ejection). By rule, that should be automatic 1 game suspension. Edit..dang chew beat me to it. It was a 50/50 call on the court. Anyone sitting in the nose bleeds of Oracle could see Lebron wasn't close to being in the restricted area. It should not have been reviewed. If they're going to review that then they should have reviewed the Warriors lane violation on the Hill missed FT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: If they are going to dominate the league, they owe us something pretty. Slowly but surely, you are coming around to my viewpoint. The Warriors have made the league boring and you know it. In three years you're going to be ready for the three point dunk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Lane violations in the NBA? When has that been called in the past 20 years, especially in the last 5 minutes of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Lane violations in the NBA? When has that been called in the past 20 years, especially in the last 5 minutes of a game. I don't know, but the refs were making up rules on the fly last night so why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Regarding the Dubs...I'd be surprised if last night wasn't the closest of the 4 games. Steph postgame made the comment that Game 1s are weird because your coming off adapting to the previous team you played. Changes will be made between games 1 and 2. Either way...provided Thompson's leg is okay..does anyone think anything has changed series prediction wise after Game 1? Good teams always look like they are coasting to wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 And I just had to laugh at the clown ref tossing Tristan Thompson out for trying to block that last-second, meaningless, douchebag shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 The issue is that the block/charge wasn't the worse thing the refs did last night. It really is a 50/50 play and could go either way. The issue is the other 3 or 4 calls they had that the announcers in real time said were wrong, looked wrong with the slow motion review, and all went GS's way. (Though, this is also a game where the Cavs really can't blame the refs. You've got the ball tied with 5 seconds left in the game and your player doesn't know the game is tied, that's on you.) 4 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Regarding the Dubs...I'd be surprised if last night wasn't the closest of the 4 games. Steph postgame made the comment that Game 1s are weird because your coming off adapting to the previous team you played. Changes will be made between games 1 and 2. Either way...provided Thompson's leg is okay..does anyone think anything has changed series prediction wise after Game 1? Good teams always look like they are coasting to wins. Well, if Love and Thompson are out in game 2 that hurts them a lot. Though, I do think in some ways this team is better than last years. Clearly, they'll miss Irving, but Hill is at least competent, and I think not having Irving has actually diversified their offense a little, and Larry Nance is playing better than anybody they brought of the bench last year and Green might be to. Clarkson is about what Shumpert was. Assuming that Thompson and Love are out game and they get waxed, the question will be how they respond in game 3. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) It's always shocking to fans when LeBron (and Harden) don't get the foul calls. They obviously ignore the forearm push off that happens by them 30x a game..but when they flop (and/or throw their arms up) after nearly every missed shot, is it that shocking that some fouls get missed? People get on Draymond for overacting..but have no problem when these superstars do the exact same thing. That's what I find amusing about the whole NBA and refs blowing calls angle. Btw, Mark Jackson still has a grudge against GS. Not to hard to figure out why. Had he been a better coach... Edited June 1, 2018 by The Evil Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Slowly but surely, you are coming around to my viewpoint. The Warriors have made the league boring and you know it. In three years you're going to be ready for the three point dunk. As nuts as ^this seemed a couple weeks ago, I'm honestly starting to think you might be a genius (don't let thus go to your head) Tired of seeing fast breaks and dudes ending it with dickless 3 pointers. Or shooting 50 million of them and missing them all, giving away possessions. Nah, dunks for everybody. Candy yams, shattered souls, and chronic traumatic encephalopathy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Refs missed some bad calls tho, the swipe on LeBrons wrist that wasn’t called and the clean strip on KD comes to mind. Love wont get suspended, Russel walked on to court and walked back and didn’t suspended so neither should Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, Dan T. said: And I just had to laugh at the clown ref tossing Tristan Thompson out for trying to block that last-second, meaningless, douchebag shot. He normally attempts to block shots with his arm bent and his elbow flying at the shooter's head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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