NoLeafClover Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 ES Coverage & Interactive Game Day Thread: 2012 Redskins vs Panthers 11/04/12 DEFEAT!!! Panthers 21 - Redskins 13 :helmet: Let me take you back to October 31, 2004. There I was at FedEx Field in the best seats I've ever had for a Redskins game. I'm two rows from the field, around the 30 yard line. The Redskins are down 20-14 in the fourth quarter. I'm praying for a comeback. And the football gods seem to be listening as Mark Brunell connects with Clinton Portis on a 43-yard pass that ended with Portis leaping into the end zone in celebration. All the team had to do was kick the extra point and they'd have the lead and most likely win the game. I was elated. Portis ran right by me on his dash into the end zone. I jumped up and down, high fived everyone in my section and cheered until my throat hurt. That's when I saw the flag. And I watched, in horror, as the head official turned on his microphone and announced that James Thrash had been flagged for an illegal motion penalty. It was a phantom call that head coach Joe Gibbs would later describe as “an absolute mystery.” And it cost the 'Skins the game. The very next play, Al Harris intercepted the ball. The Packers, led by Brett Favre, marched down the field for an insurance touchdown and ended up winning 28-14. I bring this painful memory up because, as I'm sure you've all heard numerous times this week, the Redskins game today against the Panthers will supposedly decide who wins the Presidential election Tuesday night. If the Redskins win today, Barack Obama will supposedly be assured a victory. If the Panthers are victorious, Mitt Romney will be our next President. This has always been the case. Since 1936, when the then Boston Redskins defeated the Chicago Cardinals, ensuring a successful reelection for Franklin D. Roosevelt, the 'Skins have correctly predicted 18 elections. They've only been wrong once. In 2004. Either the Redskins should have won that fateful Sunday or John Kerry should have beaten Bush. But for some reason, things didn't work out. That's the only "Election game" I've ever watched in person ... until today. So while there are plenty of subplots this week (RGIII vs. Cam Newton, the Redskins declaring this a "must win" game, the suspense over which player will be the latest to be flagged for a moronic personal foul, etc.), the one I'm most intrigued by is whether or not, this time around, the football gods get it right. Am I bad luck for this whole Presidential "Redskins Rule" thing or did I just have the bad fortune to be there the one year the refs tried to cheat the system so their candidate got elected? Only time will tell. :helmet: Redskins Inactives QB Rex Grossman S Brandon Meriweather CB Richard Crawford G Adam Gettis OL Maurice Hurt WR Pierre Garcon DE Doug Worthington Panthers Inactives QB Jimmy Clausen WR Brandon LaFell WR Joe Adams CB Ron Parker S DJ Campbell DE Antwan Applewhite DE Thomas Keiser :helmet: 12:34 PM - From the Redskins' official press release: "The alumni scheduled to attend today's Homecoming represents 1,024 combined seasons with the team, 80 Super Bowls, 43 members of the 80 Greatest Redskins, 21 members of the Redskins Ring of Fame and nine Pro Football Hall of Famers." 1:01 PM - STOP DEFERRING!!! 1:10 PM - Even though the Panthers managed to get across the 50-yard-line with relative ease, the Redskins defense did tighten up and force them to punt instead of once again forcing RGIII to take the field for the first time with a deficit. I still don't like their decision to defer each week though. 1:14 PM - Thank goodness Carolina is awful. A personal foul penalty on the defense keeps the Redskins from going three-and-out. 1:17 PM - Alfred Morris is good. 1:21 PM - Kai Forbath connects with a 47-yard field goal for the first points of the game. Obviously, the 15-yard personal foul call on Carolina comes back to haunt them, though they are probably happy the 'Skins only came away with three. 12 plays, 68 yards, six minutes and 45 seconds. 3-0 1:32 PM - DeAngelo Williams has nothing but daylight as he rushes 30-yards for a Panthers touchdown. It's his longest rush of the season and he made it look easy. Seven plays, 69 yards, three minutes and 56 seconds. 3-7 1:36 PM - Apparently an official blew a whistle on Williams' touchdown, thinking he ran out of bounds. Being in the press box, you can't hear the whistle, so it's hard for me to make a judgement call on that. But if that is the case, then obviously the play should have stopped when the whistle was blown, even if it was blown by mistake. END OF FIRST QUARTER 3-7 1:53 PM - The Redskins convert on fourth down with a six yard bullet from RGIII to Joshua Morgan. 1:54 PM - Talk about threading a needle. The very next play, Griffin connects with Morgan again, sailing the ball past three Carolina defenders. 1:59 PM - Two-for-two on fourth down today. 2:03 PM - The Redskins try to go for it on fourth down once again and this time come up short. Two yards out from the end zone, Robert Griffin III tries to run to the right, but there just isn't a lane. He ended up with no gain and the Redskins turn the ball over on downs. After driving the ball 78 yards on 17 plays, the 'Skins come up empty handed. 2:18 PM - Well, that sucked. 12 plays, 98 yards, four minutes and 16 seconds. Cam Newton connects on a 19-yard touchdown pass to Steve Smith. 3-14 HALFTIME 3-14 2:48 PM - The Redskins look flat on both sides of the ball right now. Not sure what the problem is, but they look lethargic. 2:53 PM - RGIII with a 25-yard pass to Leonard Hankerson. That certainly livened things up a bit. 2:59 PM - Fourth-and-three and this time the Redskins kick it. 10 plays, 69 yards, five minutes. Kai Forbath connects on a 25-yard field goal. A solid drive, but they still need touchdowns instead of field goals at some point today. 6-14 END OF THIRD QUARTER 6-14 3:21 PM - This is not going well ... 3:24 PM - Cam Newton connects with an 82-yard pass. The defense looks completely deflated. This team is sinking quickly. 3:26 PM - Cam Newton rushes into the end zone on a one-yard run. All of that set up by the 82-yard pass and a pass interference call on Josh Wilson in the end zone. Not the defense's best series, certainly. Three plays, 91 yards, one minute and 31 seconds. 6-21 3:30 PM - Today's announced attendance is 79,767. 3:51 PM - The Panthers miss a 50-yard field goal. So the Redskins have that going for them. 3:54 PM - And Logan Paulsen beans a ref in the face with the ball while trying to toss it to him so tat he could spot it after the play. Feel free to make your own jokes about the ref's eyesight on that exchange. 4:05 PM - Evan Royster rushes two yards for a touchdown. 13 plays, 60 yards, two minutes and 54 seconds. 13-21 :helmet: PHOTOS To see ExtremeSkins game photos click HERE :helmet: AUDIO To listen to comments from Mark Rypien click HERE To listen to more from Mark Rypien click HERE To listen to comments from Jay Schroeder click HERE To listen to comments from Ken Harvey click HERE To listen to comments from Charles Mann click HERE To listen to comments from Clinton Portis click HERE To listen to comments from Barry Cofield click HERE To listen to comments from London Fletcher click HERE To listen to comments from Cornelius Griffin click HERE To listen to comments from Logan Paulsen click HERE To listen to comments from Perry Riley click HERE To listen to comments from Aldrick Robinson click HERE To listen to comments from Trent Williams click HERE To listen to comments from Josh Wilson click HERE To listen to comments from Darrel Young click HERE :helmet: MY TAKE In his press conference after the game, Mike Shanahan was asked how tough a blow this loss was after he had deemed it a "must-win" game. This is what he had to say: “[it’s] obviously very disappointing. A must-win game is a game that gives you a chance to play for a playoff spot. At the midway point when you’re 3-5, it’s going to be must-win to get in the hunt. When you lose a game like that, now you’re playing to see who obviously is going to be on your football team for years to come. Now, we have a chance to evaluate players and see where we’re at. Obviously, we’re not out of it statistically. Now we find out what kind of character we have and how guys keep on fighting throughout the rest of the season.” Those aren't exactly the words of encouragement you want to hear from the head coach after a tough loss. But that's how incredibly deflating this loss was. In front of 76,000 Redskins faithful on what had been dubbed their "Homecoming game," the Washington Redskins were looking to gain some momentum back against a 1-6 team. With a slew of alumni players in the house - and 10 iconic players getting added to the Ring of Honor - the atmosphere before the game began was electric. Fueled by nostalgia from seeing all of the great players from the glory days, there was a sense of optimism that this Redskins team could get a win today against Carolina and go into their bye week 4-5. That would give them two weeks to recharge their batteries and gear up for a winnable game against their division rivals, the Philadelphia Eagles. A win in two weeks against Philly would put them at 5-5 and give them a sense of purpose with six games left. It meant an outside chance at a playoff run if they could keep building on their wins and Robert Griffin III could keep playing the way he did in his early games. But instead, the team came out flat today and was completely unprepared for the abysmal Carolina Panthers. On both sides of the ball, they couldn't get anything going. The defense has struggled all year, but in the early stretch of the season they were at least getting turnovers and sacks and creating plays here and there. Today there was none of that. And the offense, which had been the strength of this team, struggled as well. They did end up with 151 rushing yards, but the 'Skins were only able to get 186 net passing yards (they had 215 gross passing yards, with 29 yards lost attempting to pass). Griffin finished the day 23 of 39 for 215 yards with zero touchdowns or interceptions and a passer rating of 74.2. It's hard to say exactly where the team is now. While some guys, like Darrel Young, remained optimistic that this team could rebound and somehow go 10-6 and make a playoff run, it certainly seems like this season may already be over. Any time your head coach begins talking about having "a chance to evaluate players and see where we’re at," that's never a good sign. And year three into Mike Shanahan's tenure with Washington, it's hard to say just how much better the team is now than when Shanahan took over. Certainly, Robert Griffin III appears to genuinely be the franchise quarterback they've been looking for. But what pieces around him they actually have and how close they are to competing for championships are really hard to say. After a promising start to the season in New Orleans and some strong momentum out of the gate, clearly this team has stalled lately. The loss today was their most deflating of the year and the one that very well may have put the nail in the coffin of this season. Certainly not the way you want to spend what should have been your feel-good Homecoming game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I want the Skins to win this home game and didn't even think about the whole election thing. I think Obama is going to win anyways and so will the Skins. Just a reminder for all, join me and others during the game in my chat room here: http://tinychat.com/zskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 The argument I've heard about that 2004 game was that Bush actually should've lost in 2000 against Gore and therefore wasn't supposed to be the incumbent, well he did lose the popular vote so maybe it just predicts the popular vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I rather the OP didn't bring that up. Let's try and enjoy the game and keep the politics out of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repo_4 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Agreed. No politics please, just football. I think we really need to win this game today. The D is terrible and we all know it but what I want to see today is the O bounce back and put up big numbers and points. We need to get back to being dominant on that side of the ball. I think we see Morris go for 150 and 2 TD's today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 From the FB Skins page......:point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm waiting to see what the real gold pants look like instead of the yellow ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm waiting to see what the real gold pants look like instead of the yellow ones. Gulden's instead of French's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Gulden's instead of French's. Too much texture there, more like Grey Poupon......lol....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 It worries me, in terms of the next two weeks on here, how many people think we should roll over Carolina like we're so much better than them. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Skins are going to be in for a dog fight today. Offensive dog fight, that is. Both D's are turnstyles, call your bookie and bet the house on the OVER. Find a prop bet for the number of PUNTS in this game and take the under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 ES Coverage & Interactive Game Day Thread: 2012 Redskins vs Panthers 11/04/12 http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6094/6278352720_440944f8d0_o.jpg:helmet: Let me take you back to October 31, 2004. There I was at FedEx Field in the best seats I've ever had for a Redskins game. I'm two rows from the field, around the 30 yard line. The Redskins are down 20-14 in the fourth quarter. I'm praying for a comeback. And the football gods seem to be listening as Mark Brunell connects with Clinton Portis on a 43-yard pass that ended with Portis leaping into the end zone in celebration. All the team had to do was kick the extra point and they'd have the lead and most likely win the game. I was elated. Portis ran right by me on his dash into the end zone. I jumped up and down, high fived everyone in my section and cheered until my throat hurt. That's when I saw the flag. And I watched, in horror, as the head official turned on his microphone and announced that James Thrash had been flagged for an illegal motion penalty. It was a phantom call that head coach Joe Gibbs would later describe as “an absolute mystery.” And it cost the 'Skins the game. The very next play, Al Harris intercepted the ball. The Packers, led by Brett Favre, marched down the field for an insurance touchdown and ended up winning 28-14. I bring this painful memory up because, as I'm sure you've all heard numerous times this week, the Redskins game today against the Panthers will supposedly decide who wins the Presidential election Tuesday night. If the Redskins win today, Barack Obama will supposedly be assured a victory. If the Panthers are victorious, Mitt Romney will be our next President. This has always been the case. Since 1936, when the then Boston Redskins defeated the Chicago Cardinals, ensuring a successful reelection for Franklin D. Roosevelt, the 'Skins have correctly predicted 18 elections. They've only been wrong once. In 2004. Either the Redskins should have won that fateful Sunday or John Kerry should have beaten Bush. But for some reason, things didn't work out. That's the only "Election game" I've ever watched in person ... until today. So while there are plenty of subplots this week (RGIII vs. Cam Newton, the Redskins declaring this a "must win" game, the suspense over which player will be the latest to be flagged for a moronic personal foul, etc.), the one I'm most intrigued by is whether or not, this time around, the football gods get it right. Am I bad luck for this whole Presidential "Redskins Rule" thing or did I just have the bad fortune to be there the one year the refs tried to cheat the system so their candidate got elected? Only time will tell. I will never forget that play or game, the Redskins were 100% robbed of a victory and there never was any movement by any player before the snap. Even Green Bay fans I knew at the time called me and congratulated us on the win we were robbed of. They even knew and admitted the penalty was BS. The ref was obviously a Packer fan or Redskin hater, and its a damn shame that just 1 idiot on the field, who is not even playing the game, can determine which team wins or losses. This is one of many reasons why I feel refs should be fined and punished like the players are, and a booth review done on bogus penalty calls such as that one. Hell yes they should review only questionable penalties that will determine the outcome of a football game! Especially if a TD or game winning FG is involved, since these refs can't seem to get it right or do their job. ---------- Post added November-4th-2012 at 10:59 AM ---------- It worries me, in terms of the next two weeks on here, how many people think we should roll over Carolina like we're so much better than them. Hail. I agree, Carolina can score on good defenses, I am scared to see how bad they can rip ours to pieces. This is a must win for us, because a NY loss and we are 1 game away from leading this division. Our defense has to make it happen, they have to step it up period. Not just the vets, but everybody. Go Redskins!!! ---------- Post added November-4th-2012 at 11:05 AM ---------- I'm waiting to see what the real gold pants look like instead of the yellow ones.I know you have seen the uniforms, the helmet even looks like a leather one of the 1930's lol. It's sure not as ugly as the Steelers or Eagles, I actually laughed at the Steelers, just hideous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I want a win. Call me crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hdf561 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 i want a win. Call me crazy. wow so insightful!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsciambi Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm waiting to see what the real gold pants look like instead of the yellow ones. I thought they looked more brown than gold. Also, any word yet on inactives? I really hope Garcon can play again this year. It's getting sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadExField Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 i want a win. Call me crazy. get this man a new contract! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 wow so insightful!!!!! Oh, now, little idgit...most folk here won't know what's been going on with you and a couple of moderators here since much of it has been in PM...but a few will have seen enough of the stuff that was in open posting to get a "knowing chuckle" out of this latest act of self-immolation. Trolling (especially a mod :evilg:) is always a good way to start gameday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Robinson finally back in the picture with the start over Hank. Hail. Thank god...a WR that doesn't need stick um. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Robinson finally back in the picture with the start over Hank. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Bass Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 2001 Redskins vs Panthers. The 0-5 Redskins were down 14-0 with 10 minutes left to go. It looked like they were going to go 0-6, but, then, LaVar Arrington intercepts a Chris Weinke screen pass and takes it 67 yards to the house. The next drive Tony Banks hits Rod Gardner for an 85 yard touchdown pass to tie the game at 14-14. The Skins eventually went on to win in overtime with a Brett Conway field goal - sparking a 5 game winning streak that got them back to 5-5. Good times. :panthersu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm drinking and listening to Zappa. Got a good feeling about the game today. Let's get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeen80 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Must win here. Cant wait to see how those throwbacks look on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the burgundy and gold Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Is Perry Riley playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the burgundy and gold Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Yeah...he's good to go Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLeafClover Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm finally stationed here in the press box. Murf and I got a chance to interview some of the alumni players here for the Ring of Honor anniversary celebration here today. That was a very cool experience. The Redskins are on the field, wearing their throwback uniforms. They look much sharper than the horrible bumblebee trainwreck the Steelers had on last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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