Special K Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I love how little facts/substance matters to some people. Romney was tough and aggressive despite lying all night and it was great. Biden was tough and aggressive while correcting the record and he was a HUGE jerk for smiling. Mean old Joe Biden. It's all about the style when you can't win on facts. You are implying facts/substance don't matter to many of us saying Biden's behavior was douchelord-like...and that's not true. And Mitt's constant interrupting of Jim Lehrer and frequently going well beyond his planned time wasn't being an *******?It was exactly that process that soundly "won" Mitt Romney the last debate. He was tough and aggressive and respectful; he was a jerk for most of the debate. I just think it's interesting that Romney certainly wasn't "polite and respectful" last week, but what was a positive for Romney is a negative for Biden. Yeah, if you can't see the difference in behavior between Romney and Biden in these debates, I can't help you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Today is not last week. We are talking about the VP debate. The Presidential debate is a completely separate thread, and for a good reason. You misspelled your user name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The flash polls are showing Biden killed him. They're expecting the polls on the debate performance to widen given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Krauthammer says: If you read the transcripts, draw. If you listened, Biden won. If you watched, Biden lost. I can get on board with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 AUGH. What the HELL is going on with ES today? Everything is getting double posted or posted in the wrong order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 https://twitter.com/passantino/status/256585525958426625/photo/1 Photo: Biden and Ryan cross paths after debate CNN poll said Ryan won 48-44. Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 FYI, interrupting has nothing to do with some of our opinions on Biden's behavior. Fine, then he was rude. Grow up people. Grow a thicker skin. If I had to list the attributes I wanted my president/VP to have I would never even think to list "polite to opponents in debates". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Do people here think that Romney was just like Biden in Interupting Overspeaking Fillabustering There was a MARKED difference here.... Nobody would accuse Romney of being disrespectful during his debate Biden on the other hand was actively trying to intimidate Ryan AND the moderator....and came across as a total jerk Sorry people....there is no equivalency on this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 It's a totally legitimate point.If you complain about Biden interrupting, you have to complain about Romney doing the same or you're a hypocrite--plain and simple. FYI, interrupting has nothing to do with some of our opinions on Biden's behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 CNN has Ryan at 48% and Biden 44% CBS has Biden at 50%, Ryan at 31% and 19% for a tie with undecided voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Do people here think that Romney was just like Biden in Interupting Overspeaking Fillabustering There was a MARKED difference here.... Nobody would accuse Romney of being disrespectful during his debate Biden on the other hand was actively try to intimidate Ryan AND the moderator....and came across as a total jerk Sorry people....there is no equivalency on this point Substance > Politeness. If you're voting on people based on how polite they are you shouldn't vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgundyRain Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 No...there are actually a lot of people out there who are not impressed with over the top bullying/patronizing antics. His antics were so ridiculous, I suspect they will turn many people off to even listening to the content of what he\\\'s saying. My roommate and I were watching the debate (she\\\'s undecided/I\\\'m not), and she left the TV and went upstairs and read a book. Biden\\\'s antics (particularly in the beginning) pissed her off so much, she couldn\\\'t handle watching any more of the debate. We were both disgusted, but she completely tuned out. I\\\'m going to try and say this without sounding like an ass: anyone at this point in the game who still doesn\\\'t know who they\\\'re voting for is either lying or shouldn\\\'t be voting in the first place. Maybe, she tuned out because her interest in politics is slim to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Do people here think that Romney was just like Biden in Interupting Overspeaking Fillabustering There was a MARKED difference here.... Nobody would accuse Romney of being disrespectful during his debate Biden on the other hand was actively trying to intimidate Ryan AND the moderator....and came across as a total jerk Sorry people....there is no equivalency on this point I'd rather someone rudely interrupt with facts than politely lie to my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonofwashington14 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Time Magazine's Mark Halperin gave Ryan a B and Biden a B- for their performances tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 CNN has Ryan at 48% and Biden 44% for the debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I\\\'m going to try and say this without sounding like an ass: anyone at this point in the game who still doesn\\\'t know who they\\\'re voting for is either lying or shouldn\\\'t be voting in the first place. Maybe, she tuned out because her interest in politics is slim to none. You failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 CNN has Ryan at 48% and Biden 44% CBS has Biden at 50%, Ryan at 31% and 19% for a tie with undecided voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Substance > Politeness. That's funny because a large number of people in 08 voted for Obama for the wrong reason, according to that equation. According to that logic, he should not have won his campaign 4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 CBS has Biden at 50%, Ryan at 31% and 19% for a tie with undecided voters. If only half the people thought Biden won, I'm not sure how much of a victory that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 You misspelled your user name. Badly, too. S-u-p-p-o-s-i-t-o-r-y. :pfft: <kidding> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 That's funny because a large number of people in 08 voted for Obama for the wrong reason, according to that equation.According to that logic, he should not have won his campaign 4 years ago. You just talked about how this isn't about the Presidential debate. This is even less about 4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgundyRain Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 You failed. Theres always next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I'd rather someone rudely interrupt with facts than politely lie to my face.AgreeTo bad there wont be another VP debate so Biden can come clean on Libya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 What in the hell do the Democrats have to do to WIN one of these things? "We don't want a guy to be Presidential and solemn, we want fire and passion, but we don't want too much fire and passion, too much is rude!". Jesus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 It's incredible to me that the party that has accused it's opponents of being wimps for YEARS is suddenly the thin skinned party that wants to cry about Old Joe being too mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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