Califan007 The Constipated Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-07-27/nfl-training-camps-kevin-kolb-john-skelton-matt-flynn-redskins?utm_term=NFL+NEWS&utm_content=NFL+NEWS&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=SN 4. Washington Redskins RBTim Hightower vs. Roy Helu vs. Evan Royster Hightower is their best all-around back, but he’s coming off a torn ACL—and history isn’t kind to backs in that situation. Helu is the biggest game-breaker of this group and is good in the screen game, but he’s not as strong in protection and durability is a concern. He’ll help regardless of his role. Royster lacks the speed of the other two, but he did surpass 100 yards twice last season, breaking a lot of tackles along the way. Predicted winner: Hightower—as long as he’s healthy. If he can’t go, don’t be surprised if Royster gets the starting job. Look for Helu to get 15 or so touches regardless of who is No. 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I certainly agree with the last point (that Helu will be our change of pace back). I think the true starting RB competition is just Royster vs. Hightower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 I certainly agree with the last point (that Helu will be our change of pace back). I think the true starting RB competition is just Royster vs. Hightower. Or Cedric Benson lol :paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Or Cedric Benson lol :paranoid: Maybe...if Hightower is still struggling with his knee. I guess I mostly mean that I don't think Royster and Helu are competing against one another. Personally, I see them both as contributors and complementing each other quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I certainly agree with the last point (that Helu will be our change of pace back). I think the true starting RB competition is just Royster vs. Hightower. Or Cedric Benson lol :paranoid: Morris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateYanksDukeCowboys Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I have a gut feeling Royster ends up being the long-term starter here. Has an Emmitt Smith/Curtis Martin quality to his running style. Not explosive, but gets 5-6 yards every time you turn around. I'm a huge fan of Helu too, but just a hunch I have here with Royster, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 It doesn't appear that many of you follow the insiders on Twitter or listen to the podcasts HTTR247. This was discussed quite a while ago. I am rooting for Royster to be the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I'll root my ass off for Royster to succeed, but I honestly think he's just a guy. Kind of in the Betts mold. He'll get yards that are designed and blocked for. He won't get many yards after contact or break many long ones. He probably won't find the endzone much. I certainly don't think he could sustain an average over 5 yards if he were given a full season worth of starts. I think Helu is the best back for the option anyway. He did it at Nebraska and his speed complements Griff's. I think the term starter isn't really important. Helu will definitely end up with the most touches even if he's never named starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateYanksDukeCowboys Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I slightly disagree re: Royster. He has vision, which is one of the things that is hard to teach. Just seems to make the instinctive, natural move for good yardage more so than faster or stronger guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Royster would be a great ground and pound back....Helu a change of pace. Hightower blocks (blitz pick up) better than both of them and does a nice job catching passes out of the backfield. Absent an injury it would be Hightowers job to lose. I think Royster starts out as the #1 back at the end of camp. If he can master running behind the ZBS will determine if he stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobGriffin Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Royster is the least gifted physically but he is the has the best instincts when it comes to running. You combine his instincts with helu's athleticism and you have a pro bowl back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortisBetts Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I have said since we drafter Royster that he would one day be our starting back and i stand by that. Dude reminds me of Emmit Smith. He lacks explosion, but he is always getting yards, falling forward. If you give him the ball 3 downs out of 4, more times than not, you are getting a first down with Royster. I think Helu is going to be very good too. I honestly think Hightower was the worst of our backs even before the injury. It looked like he picked the wrong hole to often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 The Emmitt comparisons aren't really that good. Emmitt was really good at juking guys. Royster doesn't really make many people miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportjunkie07 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 The Emmitt comparisons aren't really that good. Emmitt was really good at juking guys. Royster doesn't really make many people miss. i disagree. i feel like emmitt's best qualities were vision, and the ability to break tackles whilst avoiding injury. i see some of those qualitites in royster and wouldnt be suprised if he was the workhorse this season with helu on his heels. i dont think hightower helps us much this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Dupe Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 i disagree. i feel like emmitt's best qualities were vision, and the ability to break tackles whilst avoiding injury.i see some of those qualitites in royster and wouldnt be suprised if he was the workhorse this season with helu on his heels. i dont think hightower helps us much this season. Royster doesn't break tackles, though. He may have good instincts on cutting, but after that it's just straight ahead into the first tackle. He's a lot more Ladell Betts than Emmitt Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateYanksDukeCowboys Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Royster doesn't break tackles, though. He may have good instincts on cutting, but after that it's just straight ahead into the first tackle. He's a lot more Ladell Betts than Emmitt Smith. I also threw out the Curtis Martin comparison to Royster. Great vision, instincts, but lacking explosiveness. Physically, he's closer in build to Martin than he is to Emmitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Royster doesn't break tackles, though. He may have good instincts on cutting, but after that it's just straight ahead into the first tackle. He's a lot more Ladell Betts than Emmitt Smith. He did a good job breaking tackles and juking players in the Eagles game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 When or if Hightower can't go, I'd love to see a thunder/lightning combo from Royster and Helu. I gathered from last year that Evan is a nice power runner and while Helu might not be a speedster, he can catch really well out of the back field. In a perfect world though, TH will be healthy and ready so that we are 3 deep on awesome sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Morris. Here's hoping ...he's been my offseason mancrush since we drafted him. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 He did a good job breaking tackles and juking players in the Eagles game. On one single run. For what? 20 yards? I think he had one other run where he pushed the pile a little. He did have a full head of steam, though. Other than that it was 2,3, 7 whatever yard runs. No juking or breaking tackles. He's just pedestrian and people tend to over rate him. If there isn't an injury factor, Helu will end up as the most productive back no matter who is named starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Am I the only one thinking Hightower may not even make the team? As long as Helu and Royster play like last year I'm pretty sure they're locks. And if someone like Morris plays hard he'll cost less and not be recovering from a torn ACL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacePenguin Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Am I the only one thinking Hightower may not even make the team? As long as Helu and Royster play like last year I'm pretty sure they're locks. And if someone like Morris plays hard he'll cost less and not be recovering from a torn ACL It's more likely THT is kept around for his blocking, what with the rookie QB. Morris can then be stashed on the PS in case of injury. I like Royster as a starter myself, but it all depends on how far he comes along in passpro. As the article said,I think Helu will get his 10-15 carries either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I'm just stoked that we have three capable guys back there. I loved Royster in college...the guy just gets yards. And more yards. He's one of those overachiever types that doesn't jump out at you during combine drills. But, at the end of the day you look down and he's got 100 yards at 5.1 a clip. He's a helluva football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsoe Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Royster does a very decent job at breaking tackles at least. At least hes not Stephen Davis who falls down when a blade of grass hits his ankle the wrong way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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