Predicto Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Genuinely wonder why this isn't getting more attention. Militia members plotted to kill federal officials, prosecutors say. Atlanta (CNN) -- Federal agents charged four Georgia men they say are part of a fringe militia group with plotting to attack government officials with explosives and the biotoxin ricin, prosecutors in Atlanta announced Tuesday. A government informant recorded the men discussing plans to manufacture ricin, a highly poisonous substance derived from castor beans, and attack Justice Department officials, federal judges and Internal Revenue Service agents, according to court papers released Tuesday afternoon. Prosecutors said the public was never in imminent danger. All four suspects were in custody and are scheduled to make their initial court appearances Wednesday in Gainesville, about 50 miles northeast of Atlanta, the U.S. attorney's office announced. "When it comes time to saving the Constitution, that means some people gotta die," an arrest affidavit quotes one of the defendants, Frederick Thomas, as saying during one recorded conversation. According to arrest affidavits filed in the case, 67-year-old Dan Roberts and Thomas, 73, agreed to buy a silencer, a bomb and parts to convert a semi-automatic rifle to a fully automatic machine gun from an undercover agent. Meanwhile, 65-year-old Ray Adams and 68-year-old Samuel Crump worked to obtain castor beans and produce ricin, an FBI agent states in the documents. "While many are focused on the threat posed by international violent extremists, this case demonstrates that we must also remain vigilant in protecting our country from citizens within our own borders who threaten our safety and security," U.S. Attorney Sally Quillian Yates said in a written statement announcing the arrests. The affidavits don't identify the "known militia organization" of which FBI agents say the men are a part. But according to the documents, they talked about spreading ricin across several cities at once, including Washington, Atlanta, New Orleans and Jacksonville, Florida. During an April meeting at his home, Thomas allegedly told participants he had a "bucket list" of politicians, government officials, corporate leaders and media figures he said should be targeted to "make the country right again." "I could shoot ATF and IRS all day long. All the judges and the DOJ and the attorneys and prosecutors," the affidavit quotes Thomas as saying. Crump allegedly said he wanted to make 10 pounds of ricin for distribution. "Dump that little (unintelligible) that's all you gotta do is lay it in the damn road, the cars are gonna spread it," the affidavit quotes him as saying. more at link http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/01/justice/georgia-militia-arrests/index.html?hpt=us_c2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 The last names aren't Al-Terrrorabi They are Thomas and Roberts. We all know white people can't be terrorists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 So the Muslims have infiltrated Georgia. Rat ****s. :pfft: On a serious note, way to go FBI! For all the rough edges in our various intel/law enforcement agencies and their working together, they form a pretty damn competent collection of operatives, IMO. :cool: BTW, noting the age of the culprits, are the local assisted-living facilities that bereft of engaging activities nights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Wouldn't surprise ne if the FBI was involved (see some of the Muslim planned attacks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 The last names aren't Al-TerrrorabiThey are Thomas and Roberts. We all know white people can't be terrorists You are right. We must presume they were freedom fighters. Can you imagine the hoopla if they were Black Muslims? You would be able to hear FoxNews with your TV set turned off. ---------- Post added November-2nd-2011 at 04:29 PM ---------- Wouldn't surprise ne if the FBI was involved (see some of the Muslim planned attacks). Possible, but we shouldn't assume that up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Observing that we've seen other cases, where "government foils terrorist plot" later turns into "government infiltrates a bunch of people who talk tough, but couldn't figure out how to get a gun without the government infiltrator's help". Still, I'll call it a "win". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 Observing that we've seen other cases, where "government foils terrorist plot" later turns into "government infiltrates a bunch of people who talk tough, but couldn't figure out how to get a gun without the government infiltrator's help". Still, I'll call it a "win". Not asking anyone to call it a "win." Just surprised that it isn't a bigger story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I think we'll find out that rap lyrics were to blame. ---------- Post added November-2nd-2011 at 08:18 PM ---------- . We all know white people can't be terrorists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Just surprised that it isn't a bigger story. It's age discrimination....No respect for elders these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Not asking anyone to call it a "win."Just surprised that it isn't a bigger story. Friggin liberal media ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 What'd Iran do now? Crazy bearded extremists! (I just saw the old guys on tv, ha ha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 So do we thank Breaking Bad for popularizing ricin, or for making us weary of ricin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 So do we thank Breaking Bad for popularizing ricin, or for making us weary of ricin? Ricin's been a big deal for years. Is Breaking Bad some sort of tv show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 But, it's a religion of peace. Oh, wait. Just thought I'd throw that out there for old time's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I hope I'm able to condemn these guys to a sufficient level as to pass muster around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egtuna Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Ricin's been a big deal for years.Is Breaking Bad some sort of tv show? Walter White is the one who KNOCKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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