The Awesome Magical Adventures of Herman Cain Thread (aka.....Herman news)

[visionary]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/13/cains-race-not-as-big-an-issue-with-conservatives-as-obamas-was-three-years-ago/

TRENDING: Cain's race not as big an issue with conservatives as Obama's was three years ago

Posted by

CNN Political Reporter Shannon Travis

(CNN) - Amid political warfare, it's certainly meant to shock and awe: some conservatives have recently said that Herman Cain could become America's "first black president."

Three years after the nation elected its first African-American president, the Republican Party could make its own history - given his rising poll numbers and raised awareness among voters and in the press, Cain is the first African-American to have a real shot at becoming the Republican presidential nominee.

So why isn't Cain's ethnicity as much a part of his story as it was with Obama?

For one, many conservatives decry the focus on a candidate's race as an obsession for liberals....

[twa]

[PeterMP]

isn't using percentages progressive enough?

People seem to believe that Cain's sales tax is a large tax increase for the middle class. By making it a percentage of the purchase at different amounts, you avoid that.

[Teller]

DAMNED inconvenient when the Clinton News Network posts an article like that.

[Hubbs]

People seem to believe that Cain's sales tax is a large tax increase for the middle tax. By making it a percentage of the purchase, you avoid that.

Wait, avoid what?

[PeterMP]

Wait, avoid what?

For the middle class. Raising taxes on the middle class (at least in a sudden disporpotionate manner).

[Hubbs]

For the middle class. Raising taxes on the middle class (at least in a sudden disporpotionate manner).

Yeah, I thought that's what he meant by the sentence structure, but that doesn't make any sense to me, which is why I asked.

[Destino]

isn't using percentages progressive enough?

Is it not punishing lack of wealth enough for your tastes?

---------- Post added October-13th-2011 at 11:43 PM ----------

Wait, avoid what?

That consumption taxes are regressive. A point that is avoided by framing it as "progressive enough".

[twa]

Is it not punishing lack of wealth enough for your tastes?

.

Do we really need poor people buying new cars?.....think of the planet and recycle

[visionary]

Do we really need poor people buying new cars?.....think of the planet and recycle

Cars? Why bother.

Poor people need to walk to stay in shape for those blue collar jobs anyway.

Although I suppose bikes would be acceptable too.

[twa]

Bikes are good for the environment and reduce obesity....a win-win

[DeaconTheVillain]

What does Cain's 9-9-9 plan mean for people who live in Delaware, where there is no sales tax?

Have not been following him at all so I don't know if this has be asked/addressed

[Destino]

Do we really need poor people buying new cars?.....think of the planet and recycle

Cars? You sound like a liberal. These people have clean water and access to heating and air conditioning. Time for these pampered lazy workers to understand that their place is to sacrifice everything for their betters. God bless republicans.

[PeterMP]

What does Cain's 9-9-9 plan mean for people who live in Delaware, where there is no sales tax?

Have not been following him at all so I don't know if this has be asked/addressed

They'd pay a 9% sales tax.

[DeaconTheVillain]

How does he ever expect to sell this to the public?

A family of four making under 120K per year then you will pay more taxes under Hermain Cain.

[mossomo]

*crashing the party*

No ****, all my usual jokers in one thread. Kinda like those Journalisto listserve media peeps who are in collusion to move a certain meme and discredit those who don't conform to their line. Ridicule anyone, alinsky anyone?

Nice to meet you. Bang! the most Moderate of them, Bufurd, GACOLB, Destino, Predicto, Visionary, SnyderShrugged, jpyaks3, twa, honorary, and PeterMP mi Corazon. Imagine. Like this is so serial. Can we take a picture? I'm affraid we won't get this chance often.

The OWS thread would have been a little cleaner if you all would have worn your progressive lapel on your collar. Embrace it. Love it. Sell it. Don't hide it.

[visionary]

*crashing the party*

No ****, all my usual jokers in one thread. Kinda like those Journalisto listserve media peeps who are in collusion to move a certain meme and discredit those who don't conform to their line. Ridicule anyone, alinsky anyone?

Nice to meet you. Bang! the most Moderate of them, Bufurd, GACOLB, Destino, Predicto, Visionary, SnyderShrugged, jpyaks3, twa, honorary, and PeterMP mi Corazon. Imagine. Like this is so serial. Can we take a picture? I'm affraid we won't get this chance often.

The OWS thread would have been a little cleaner if you all would have worn your progressive lapel on your collar. Embrace it. Love it. Sell it. Don't hide it.

[Hubbs]

That consumption taxes are regressive. A point that is avoided by framing it as "progressive enough".

Yeah, that's where you're losing me. I don't understand how making a national sales tax to be a flat percentage of all purchases allows you to frame it as "progressive enough" when people are specifically saying that the tax is regressive because it's a flat percentage of all purchases.

---------- Post added October-14th-2011 at 07:47 AM ----------

Seriously... that list...

:ols:

(Although I have to say that I'm very offended that I'm not on it. I've been a flaming liberal for years! I demand to be recognized for my pinko Commie ways!)

[techboy]

Nice to meet you. Bang! the most Moderate of them, Bufurd, GACOLB, Destino, Predicto, Visionary, SnyderShrugged, jpyaks3, twa, honorary, and PeterMP mi Corazon. Imagine. Like this is so serial. Can we take a picture? I'm affraid we won't get this chance often.

The OWS thread would have been a little cleaner if you all would have worn your progressive lapel on your collar.

Did he just call twa and honorary_hog progressives?

[twa]

I'm coming out of the closet

[TimmySmith]

How does he ever expect to sell this to the public?

A family of four making under 120K per year then you will pay more taxes under Hermain Cain.

The knee jerk reaction is yes. A more comprehensive evaluation might be no. The federal government taxes you in far more ways than just income tax. Take a look at your cable or telephone bill.

[rockfan7224]

How does he ever expect to sell this to the public?

A family of four making under 120K per year then you will pay more taxes under Hermain Cain.

From what I know of it, the idea of this plan is to replace those taxes that are worked into goods as well. So in reality, it could very well be much less.

[@DCGoldPants]

*crashing the party*

No ****, all my usual jokers in one thread. Kinda like those Journalisto listserve media peeps who are in collusion to move a certain meme and discredit those who don't conform to their line. Ridicule anyone, alinsky anyone?

Nice to meet you. Bang! the most Moderate of them, Bufurd, GACOLB, Destino, Predicto, Visionary, SnyderShrugged, jpyaks3, twa, honorary, and PeterMP mi Corazon. Imagine. Like this is so serial. Can we take a picture? I'm affraid we won't get this chance often.

The OWS thread would have been a little cleaner if you all would have worn your progressive lapel on your collar. Embrace it. Love it. Sell it. Don't hide it.

You lost your hat....

---------- Post added October-14th-2011 at 08:17 AM ----------

From WaPo

[Burgold]

Did he just call twa and honorary_hog progressives?

That's what I read. :crazy:

I don't even think twa would consider Progressive Insurance.

[twa]

It's a lousy ins company