ThePreciating Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 You are thinking as I am....he is a real Redskin and Mr. Snyder needs to step up for Niles It's explicitly not allowed. In fact, other players can't even step in and help with the fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 What sucks about this is that it is obvious Niles Paul made an effort to lessen the impact of the hit. He obviously turns his helmet as to avoid a direct helmet to helmet hit, unfortunately because the contact is made so high, his shoulder and helmet both make contact. I can understand the NFL dishing out a smaller fine, maybe 5k, just to say they are "taking things seriously" but to say he was deliberately doing it is pretty asinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It's explicitly not allowed. In fact, other players can't even step in and help with the fine. Come on, wink wink, secret handshake, next thing you know Santa Claus handed him 20k and it's done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 We should start a Niles Paul fund. To hell with that. He makes $375K a yr. Let's start a pjfootballer fund. I REALLY hate my job and want to quit. But I can't afford to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornempowered Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Well, I was looking at getting a Redskins and Cornhusker autographed helmet from his website. Now I am definitely going to pick up some merch from him. Can anyone tell me if this is the first time a player has been fined for hitting someone with the SIDE of his helmet? I really hope this doesn't inhibit his abandon on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Snyder doesn't have that kind of money to throw around, he has been very frugal as of late. You mean he of the 224 ft $70 million yacht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Can anyone tell me if this is the first time a player has been fined for hitting someone with the SIDE of his helmet? No, it most certainly is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 What sucks about this is that it is obvious Niles Paul made an effort to lessen the impact of the hit. He obviously turns his helmet as to avoid a direct helmet to helmet hit, unfortunately because the contact is made so high, his shoulder and helmet both make contact. I can understand the NFL dishing out a smaller fine, maybe 5k, just to say they are "taking things seriously" but to say he was deliberately doing it is pretty asinine. Well compare it to another 20k fine the NFL gave out this year f3qobyvv1AI I mean you sort of have a point but my eyes are clouded with B&G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornempowered Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 When Banks gets hit the same way there'll be war cries on this board. Yes there will be. For him to raise his hand for a fair catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Sorry, there was helmet to helmet, even though it is slight. They're cracking down on stuff like that, why risk your team getting penalized and a possible fine for doing that? If the receiver's reaction to the ball led him slightly down, we would prob be reading how he's being fed through a tube. If anything, being he was right there when the guy caught the ball, if the receiver doesn't call for a fair catch, give an uppercut to the actual ball itself, screw the person catching it; getting the ball back is the primary goal, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I can understand the NFL dishing out a smaller fine, maybe 5k, just to say they are "taking things seriously" but to say he was deliberately doing it is pretty asinine. You can certainly make a very strong case that the fine is excessive. I get the feeling that the NFL piled on a bit because of the prior defenseless receiver penalty, which is pretty much bull****. I get what you're saying, but when I think "leading with the helmet", I'm thinking of leading with the crown of the helmet. Spearing almost. And he definitely ain't leading with the crown. The notion that you need to lead with the helmet to draw a penalty is pretty much out the window these days and it's not a rule/interpretation change that I think there's much basis for being upset about. Glancing helmet-to-helmet contact is usually not going to be called unless it's on a QB but this was a little bit more than a glancing blow. A better form tackle by Paul would have averted this situation entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Well, I was looking at getting a Redskins and Cornhusker autographed helmet from his website. Now I am definitely going to pick up some merch from him. I probably will to. Already picked these up last month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Paul got fined and Paul probably deserved to be fined given how unnecessarily high he went up. So long as no one else who smacked the ever-loving hell out Pettis in that game gets a fine it seems pretty fair. I mostly agree with this, although Paul clearly tried to drop his head for that hit. But on the other hand I know the NFL is out to make examples out of people these days. As long as Riley doesn't get fined for his hit, because that was a total bull**** flag. Learn to call a fair catch or learn to walk on crutches IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 To hell with that. He makes $375K a yr. Let's start a pjfootballer fund. I REALLY hate my job and want to quit. But I can't afford to. Lmao. Point taken. And I'm right there with you. ---------- Post added October-5th-2011 at 05:02 PM ---------- The notion that you need to lead with the helmet to draw a penalty is pretty much out the window these days and it's not a rule/interpretation change that I think there's much basis for being upset about. Glancing helmet-to-helmet contact is usually not going to be called unless it's on a QB but this was a little bit more than a glancing blow. A better form tackle by Paul would have averted this situation entirely. Yeah watching the video above and not just going by that picture, you're right. He lowered his head, it was helmet to helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornempowered Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I probably will to. Already picked these up last month Did you outbid me on the green one on the right on ebay? He and Helu are two of my all time favorite players from Nebraska so I am trying to pick up some stuff with their autos. Helu is currently hard to come by though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It was helmet to helmet. Period. The penalty and being fined *something* is totally legit. The $ amount of the fine seems excessive to me, on a guy that I believe isn't a repeat offender or with multiple priors (like James Harrison). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Did you outbid me on the green one on the right on ebay?He and Helu are two of my all time favorite players from Nebraska so I am trying to pick up some stuff with their autos. Helu is currently hard to come by though. No that one came from my LCS, You'll love this one I got from the bay this weekend. Guy did a BIN for $29.99 on it and I got him down to $20 shipped. Later in the day the same card but not an H went for $30 I've been collecting mostly Ryan Kerrigan since game one. Have 7 different auto cards of his and always wanting more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thats terrible especially since he was only due to make 375K this year before taxes. Yeah only 375k $20k is excessive but he will be okay. Watch the play again, it was helmet to helmet and the league is serious about it. If this was Banks being crushed ES would be in a meltdown. BTW, The penalty on Riley was wrong....he timed it perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XEL Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Stupid decision by the league. I hope Snyder steps up and helps Paul cover this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 You are thinking as I am....he is a real Redskin and Mr. Snyder needs to step up for Niles my friend and i were talking about it and i think someone like alexander should step up. but you have to keep it on the DL, because goodell said he will not allow players to pay for other players fines. fines should be percentages not set amounts because the punishments don't affect certain guys and crush other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsco1112 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 They had a funny exchange on twitter. Austin_Pettis Austin Pettis @Niles_Paul damn bro they hit u deep in the pockets....appeal it I shoulda called for the fair catch lol! That's all bad 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply Niles_Paul Niles Paul @ Lol what you got on it? RT @Austin_Pettis: @Niles_Paul damn bro they hit u deep in the pockets, I shoulda called for the fair catch! Lol 1 hour ago Austin_Pettis Austin Pettis @ @Niles_Paul lol I got a two day headache that what I got FROM it lol 1 hour ago in reply to ↑ @Niles_Paul Niles Paul @Austin_Pettis lol I'm sorry bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I think it was a legit penalty. And I can see the NFL showing that they're "cracking down", so to speak, on helmet to helmet contact by fining. However, IMO, that fine is way excessive. If he was leading with his helmet, spearing him, etc then I suppose I could see it. But it really doesn't look like he was trying to do that at all. It seems that he lowered himself to try and hit with just his shoulder but wasn't able to do it fast enough and ended up with the side of his helmet hitting the helmet of Pettis. Compare Paul's hit to the Suh video above on the play where he was fined 20k. Not even close. Paul had helmet to helmet contact but it certainly didn't look intentional. Suh grabbed a QB by his head, turned, and body slammed him. THAT was obviously intentional and was worthy of a 20k fine. Paul's penalty...not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Bang said he'll pay the fine for him. A show of appreciation to the Skins Special Teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I think it was a legit penalty. And I can see the NFL showing that they're "cracking down", so to speak, on helmet to helmet contact by fining. However, IMO, that fine is way excessive. If he was leading with his helmet, spearing him, etc then I suppose I could see it. But it really doesn't look like he was trying to do that at all. It seems that he lowered himself to try and hit with just his shoulder but wasn't able to do it fast enough and ended up with the side of his helmet hitting the helmet of Pettis.Compare Paul's hit to the Suh video above on the play where he was fined 20k. Not even close. Paul had helmet to helmet contact but it certainly didn't look intentional. Suh grabbed a QB by his head, turned, and body slammed him. THAT was obviously intentional and was worthy of a 20k fine. Paul's penalty...not so much. And don't forget the economics of the two comparisons Paul makes minimum salary Suh is on a $60 million contract that includes $40 million guaranteed. Another $8 million is available through incentives Yet they both get the same fine? That to me is a tragedy and why I posted that story about the Practice Squad player who lost half a season of salary with the same fine amount The punishment should fit the crime, not be a flat rate one size fits all If it was OchoCinco wouldn't have offered to pay the fine of the defender who hit him And Suh might not do that again. When your making 60 million what the hell is 20k? Compare: Paul - 20k fine is 6% of his salary Suh - 20k fine is 0.03333333333333333% of his salary To me that's the biggest issue I have with the way Goodell handles fines. It's just not fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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