Burgold Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Many went home only to go to Afghanistan shortly after. This president has nothing to do with "peace". He's no different from Bush in foreign policy.Sadly, that was one area where I even grabbed onto the "Hope and Change" mantra. I should have known better Well, he promised to ramp up Afghanistan. He said that repeatedly during the campaign. Where he's bummed me out is his decisions to continue the torture, and secret prison stuff. I think he let down the American spirit there. Continuance of the wiretapping and other liberty bending practices also makes me unhappy. I think he has held as true to his Iraq pledge as was realistically possible and I give him some credit there, but there's still a lot of room to be critical. Edit: And again, you'll never hear me say that he deserved the Nobel Prize based on his first few weeks in office or what he did during the campaign. That's just silly. I'm all for adding prestige to the U.S. and having another American with this award is all to the good, but it's a pretty hollow prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 9, 2010 Author Share Posted October 9, 2010 Well, he promised to ramp up Afghanistan. He said that repeatedly during the campaign. Where he's bummed me out is his decisions to continue the torture, and secret prison stuff. I think he let down the American spirit there. Continuance of the wiretapping and other liberty bending practices also makes me unhappy.I think he has held as true to his Iraq pledge as was realistically possible and I give him some credit there, but there's still a lot of room to be critical. Edit: And again, you'll never hear me say that he deserved the Nobel Prize based on his first few weeks in office or what he did during the campaign. That's just silly. I'm all for adding prestige to the U.S. and having another American with this award is all to the good, but it's a pretty hollow prize. He hasnt held true to his Iraq pledge at all. There are 50,000 exhibits of evidence there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hundreds of thousands have left, but I don't want to run in circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 9, 2010 Author Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hundreds of thousands have left, but I don't want to run in circles. me neither. 50,000 havent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 me neither. 50,000 havent I refuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 9, 2010 Author Share Posted October 9, 2010 gotta admit that its fun, yet can get dizzy:pfft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hell, I blew chunks just watching you two argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 9, 2010 Author Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hell, I blew chunks just watching you two argue. Burg is one of my favs here. We go way back, rarely ever see eye to eye, but have respect for each other. I kinda miss some of the more spirited debates of yesteryear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 That's all well and good, but I've got pieces of upchucked corn in my keyboard. It's all your fault, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 The fact that Ghandi never won the prize, but a first term, war time President did makes the prize about as meaningful as the trash I took out this morning. Ghandi never got one, Arafat did. That's beyond ****ed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 . Where he's bummed me out is his decisions to continue the torture, and secret prison stuff. I think he let down the American spirit there. Continuance of the wiretapping and other liberty bending practices also makes me unhappy.. Wait.... I thought those were his redeeming qualities. No wonder he is tanking in approval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Ghandi never got one, Arafat did. That's beyond ****ed up. I just don't understand that. No one has ever been able to explain this to me. But, I can commit to this: the Nobel Peace Prize means nothing. Absolutely nothing. It might as well be made out of chocolate. Actually, that would be pretty kick ass. Edit: realized how foolish one statement I made was. Still, How does Arafat get one and Ghandi not get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I just don't understand that. No one has ever been able to explain this to me. This one almost screams antisemitism to me; though I can't really commit to that statement. I didn't know Gandi was Jewish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 FIrst of all, Obama's peace prize was for defeating Bush. Period. Second, Obama has acted responsibly for the good of the nation. I applaud him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I think this is a bad sign Duck, Mr President! A book narrowly misses Barack Obama's head after it is thrown on stage during a rally in Philadelphia today Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319448/Obama-book-thrown-Philadelphia-rally.html#ixzz121CAdpsY http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319448/Obama-book-thrown-Philadelphia-rally.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 at least it wasn't a shoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 at least it wasn't a shoe. coulda been much worse this loon coulda tossed his cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 :doh: FIrst of all, Obama's peace prize was for defeating Bush. Period.Second, Obama has acted responsibly for the good of the nation. I applaud him for that. He defeated who???:doh: He has acted responsibly for the good of the nation???? another :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Since winning the Ghandi prize: (Might as well rename it now) Military Death Toll Rises in Afghanistan - NYTimes.com A US drone strike killed seven militants at a compound in Pakistan's tribal North Waziristan region 10/10/10, security officials said.- Yahoo (A pre-emptive war?) Ran the Iraqi war quite well with a mere 50,000 combat troops renamed Trainers. Obama's illegal prison in cuba is horrible Obama Maintains Bush Position on 'Extraordinary Rendition' Lawsuit - The Huffington Post Some secret prisons better than others... How could you not get a Peace prize.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam@section118 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 FIrst of all, Obama's peace prize was for defeating Bush. Period.Second, Obama has acted responsibly for the good of the nation. I applaud him for that. Sorry, I do not buy that at all. Using that logic had McCain won he would have gotten the NPP for defeating Bush? I highly doubt that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Sorry, I do not buy that at all.Using that logic had McCain won he would have gotten the NPP for defeating Bush? I highly doubt that... i don't think he was SUPPORTING the logic in the first statement, per se, simply stating the apparent motivation there. the rest of the word HATED w, and gave O a prize because of it. I personally agree with the second statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yep, Peace President doin all that "peacy stuff" again. http://www.france24.com/en/20121126-10000-us-troops-remain-afghanistan-past-2014-isaf-nato-withdrawal US to leave 10,000 troops in Afghanistan past 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yep, Peace President doin all that "peacy stuff" again. http://www.france24.com/en/20121126-10000-us-troops-remain-afghanistan-past-2014-isaf-nato-withdrawal US to leave 10,000 troops in Afghanistan past 2014 Awesome. Why don't we just annex them and make them our newest territory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yep, Peace President doin all that "peacy stuff" again. http://www.france24.com/en/20121126-10000-us-troops-remain-afghanistan-past-2014-isaf-nato-withdrawal US to leave 10,000 troops in Afghanistan past 2014 This force will conduct training and counterterrorism operations after the NATO mission in Afghanistan formally concludes at the end of 2014, the report said. Oh the horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Oh the horror. I wonder if you will still roll your eyes when some of those 10k are killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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