Chachie Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Keiland should get the ball more, but so should LJ. Hear me out... If we're not going to cut or bench Larry Johnson, we'll have to get him the ball earlier and more often. I don't think we should be running him only 3 or 4 times a game starting in the late 2nd quarter. He's not going to get anything going this way. RB by committee works well for teams that don't have a bell cow. It's only been two weeks but I doubt we have a bell cow anymore. Time to change it up a bit to get the most out of each guy. And yes, I wish Ryan Torrain were active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Its time to move Keiland up the depth chart to number 2, what can it hurt? He has to be better then LJ. No way should he start tho because if Trent is out and the running game is struggling we will need to rely more on the passing game and no RB blocker beteer then CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer_FFX Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I'm down with Keiland getting more PT. After LJ made that bonehead play, I dont' think he ever came back in and Keiland got more reps in. Don't know if he is quite ready to start yet, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 we need to scour some practice squads and find a burner kid that can take the rock on stretch plays and pitches and get to the edge. theres gotta be a guy like that out there somewhere. we need a guy with some electric speed. a brandon banks type in the backfield. Anthony Alridge just signed with the Toronto Argonauts of the CFL. I wonder why he was cut so early this time around by the Skins. He was waived in May. Supposedly, Shanahan was intrigued by his speed when he was in Denver - said he was the quickest guy he'd ever seen with the ball in his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkFan8 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Anthony Alridge just signed with the Toronto Argonauts of the CFL. I wonder why he was cut so early this time around by the Skins. He was waived in May. Supposedly, Shanahan was intrigued by his speed when he was in Denver - said he was the quickest guy he'd ever seen with the ball in his hands.Yeah, that was a headscratcher. When Shanny picked him back up I was sure he'd stick around.Now we're stuck with 4 running backs from the exact same model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I think our O-line is the primary reason our running game is struggling. They are great at protecting McNabb, but they have major problems opening up running lanes for our RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucfSKINS Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I feel the same as the majority on this thread. More Keiland, no more LJ, keep Portis as the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Would love to see more of KW instead of LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBnotBlades Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I was hoping the skins were going to cut LJ and scan the practice squads for a young runner with potential. I had my eye on Joique Bell, who the Eagles unfortunately picked up from the Bills practice squad yesterday. I'd still like us to go grab a guy like Shawnbrey McNeal who looked pretty good at SMU. He left a year early because of family troubles and got cut by the Chargers despite many in the organization feeling that he could be the successor to Darren Sproles. From an old article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/07/22/snap.judgments.smith/1.html You probably haven't heard much about Shawnbrey McNeal yet, but I'm told that first-round pick Ryan Mathews isn't the only rookie running back worth paying attention to in San Diego this season. McNeal, an undrafted free agent out of SMU, made people notice him during the Chargers' offseason workouts and there's a belief within the organization that he could wind up being the guy who replaces third-down back Darren Sproles in 2011.The Chargers franchised Sproles in 2009 and protected him via a one-year, $7.28-million restricted free-agent tender this spring (first and third-round compensation level), a move they had to make after giving Tomlinson his freedom. But while Mathews, the draft's 12th overall pick out of Fresno State, is expected to get No. 1 back duties this season, San Diego is eager to see if McNeal can prove to be a more affordable third-down specialist in the role Sproles has owned in recent years. Like Sproles, McNeal is small (5-9, 190) but quick, he runs with power and has good hands. After transferring from the University of Miami, he played for throw-happy head coach June Jones at SMU, so he knows how to catch the ball out of the backfield and get upfield with a sense of fluidity. McNeal left college a year early in order to help support and care for his mother's medical concerns, so he might need a redshirt season of sorts as an NFL rookie. But keep an eye on him in the Chargers' third running back competition this summer. Here are some highlights from SMU: h73F9AMTP7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I think our O-line is the primary reason our running game is struggling. They are great at protecting McNabb, but they have major problems opening up running lanes for our RBs. More stretch plays and pitches, please! The ZBS is not doing what it's famous for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I know CP is a great blocker and I am probably his biggest fan, but man our run game needs to get it going. What do you guys think about kickin the tires and seeing what we have with him? It can't be worse and we saw enough in him to sign him and put him on the 53. Time for a change? Give Portis more quality carries then assess. By quality carries i mean he needs to actually have a chance to make yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 My worry with Portis is that he hasn't looked good in over a year a half. He's a hell of a blocker, but seems to have lost the ability to keep his balance, break tackles, and outrun anyone. Ironically, I also wonder if he hits the hole to fast. They kept talking about runners setting up their blocks and giving the oline time to create a play. Maybe he gets in there too fast. I remember hearing this complaint last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 My worry with Portis is that he hasn't looked good in over a year a half. He's a hell of a blocker, but seems to have lost the ability to keep his balance, break tackles, and outrun anyone. The stumbling and falling has become his staple. It drives me insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEREALTOR1 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 williams just doesnt seem fast enough to be a legit back for us. he just kinda reminds me of CP now. probably decent up the middle but doesnt have edge speed.we need to scour some practice squads and find a burner kid that can take the rock on stretch plays and pitches and get to the edge. theres gotta be a guy like that out there somewhere. More stretch plays and pitches, please! The ZBS is not doing what it's famous for. This is actually where I had a question more than a comment. As BLC points out we don't have anyone really speedy enough to turn the corners, which I presumed was because we using a ZBS technique. I thought the ZBS was designed to create lanes in the middle, so no real need for a corner guy, but is this what Chachie is pointing out? If were using a ZBS scheme, won't that push everything out to the corners, thereby being counter-productive to a speedster trying to get out to the edges because the D is going to be pushed to the edges? Don't know if that makes as much sense as I think it does in my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 This is actually where I had a question more than a comment. As BLC points out we don't have anyone really speedy enough to turn the corners, which I presumed was because we using a ZBS technique. I thought the ZBS was designed to create lanes in the middle, so no real need for a corner guy, but is this what Chachie is pointing out? If were using a ZBS scheme, won't that push everything out to the corners, thereby being counter-productive to a speedster trying to get out to the edges because the D is going to be pushed to the edges? Don't know if that makes as much sense as I think it does in my head The ZBS is designed to keep defenses running from sideline to sideline, wearing them out. Portis was great (under Shanny in Denver) at finding holes as the blockers fan out to the side, then punching through and taking off. I doubt he has the speed or balance to do this as well these days but it should bring better results than following Dockery and Rabach up the middle. That crap's just not cutting it. You are correct about needing a speed back to make it work to the max, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I'm not sure exactly what you would expect him to do differently. CP had nowhere to run. Our run-blocking is atrocious right now and benching CP isn't going to fix that. I am apparently one of the few that believe that CP did as well as a RB could do given the line. I think it's time we put another body on the line and put Sellers on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Sorry, unless Williams somehow makes the oline open holes that have otherwise not been there, he isn't an upgrade over anyone. When there have been holes, CP has found them and hit them well. Our running problem stems from the oline right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I'd like him to be our #2 and I'd like Torain to be our #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honejc Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 This is how I feel too, after Larry's little Pop Warner move on Sunday I lost a lot of respect for him. You just can't do that in the NFL Larry and your not 20 years old anymore. nice quote from the commentator... who cares, we have no RBs and clearly shanahan doesnt know a good RB from a bad one, so time to scrap the RB experiment and just pass on every down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 The stumbling and falling has become his staple. It drives me insane. it's because he is holding the ball with both hands. As Doc said, he is sacrificing balance for ball security but on that 4th quarter run, any other rb bouncing it outside would have walked into the end zone. He needs the Tiki hold so he can use one hand and keep balance, switch hands, and stiff arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 More stretch plays and pitches, please! The ZBS is not doing what it's famous for. EXACTLY. I don't understand why we are trying to run between the tackles (guards even) so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 it's because he is holding the ball with both hands. As Doc said, he is sacrificing balance for ball security but on that 4th quarter run, any other rb bouncing it outside would have walked into the end zone. He needs the Tiki hold so he can use one hand and keep balance, switch hands, and stiff arm. Great point that I had not considered at all. I wonder if the coaching staff listens to Doc Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallascrushers Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 this kid was a baller at LSU...so lets see his suppossed 4.4 speed and get him outside....I think we should use him for these screen passes and short passes they keep throwing to Sellers (instead use Williams and get him into open space)...he has significant speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 This is actually where I had a question more than a comment. As BLC points out we don't have anyone really speedy enough to turn the corners, which I presumed was because we using a ZBS technique. I thought the ZBS was designed to create lanes in the middle, so no real need for a corner guy, but is this what Chachie is pointing out? If were using a ZBS scheme, won't that push everything out to the corners, thereby being counter-productive to a speedster trying to get out to the edges because the D is going to be pushed to the edges? Don't know if that makes as much sense as I think it does in my head good post. as some others said before a guy like alridge was the perfect fit for this but the only thing i can think of was that he had fumble issues. the guy was a perfect edge back. and also as someone else pointed out, this is why portis was so nasty with denver. they would stretch that edge, then send him up the middle with the defense stretched out and he'd slay everybody. portis just doesnt have that explosiveness anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 EXACTLY. I don't understand why we are trying to run between the tackles (guards even) so much. we dont have a back fast enough to get to the outside. please reference larry johnson on that pitch in the 4th quarter from sunday lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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