DarrellsMyHero28 Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 I totally agree 100% Not to be an ass my man but you should check out the first thread in the Stadium: http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=323299 Just trying to cut down on the clutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfWashington Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 1. Donovan McNabb 2. Colt Brennan 3. The 31 other starting QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I'm not listing them all but these are the QB's who can win games and I think Rivers is seriously underrated. 1 Brees 2 Rivers 3 Manning P 4 Brady 5 Favre 6 Romo sits to pee 7 Rodgers 8 Roethlisberger 9 McNabb 10 Schaub 11- Ryan/Manning/Palmer I like your thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky72 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 1. Peyton Manning 2. Drew Brees 3. Brett Favre 4. Phillip Rivers 5. Carson Palmer 6. Tom Brady 7. Ben Roethlisberger 8. Aaron Rogers 9. Matt Schaub 10. Tony Romo sits to pee 11. Donovan McNabb 12. Eli Manning 13. Jay Cutler 14. Joe Flacco 15. Matt Ryan 16. Jason Campbell 17. Matthew Stafford 18. Vince Young 19. Kyle Orton 20. Josh Freeman 21. David Garrard 22. Chad Henne 23. Mark Sanchez 24. Matt Hasselbeck 25. Alex Smith 26. Matt Cassel 27. Matt Moore 28. Jake Delhomme 29. Matt Leinart 30. Trent Edwards 31. Kevin Kolb 32. Sam Bradford Not really going to rate Kolb or Bradford based on 2/0 games. I think Clausen will start in Carolina too, if so won't rate him either. Guy who might have a breakout year is Flacco, with the addition of Boldin. Also Stafford, and the Lions in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Night Roach Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I would concur with nfl.com have Sanchez in the bottom 5. Thrown to the wolves as a rookie, stunk it up pretty nice. 12td / 20int = not there yet. On the other hand, I'd watch out for Carolina's Matt Moore. Looked good after taking over for the Panthers when Jake got benched, torched some good teams and looked like the hottest QB on the rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins_Win_Again Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 1. Payton Manning 2. Drew Brees 3. Tom Brady 4. Rivers 5. Big Ben 6. Farve 7. Rodgers 8. Tony Romo sits to pee 9. Matt Schaub 10. Eli Manning 11. Donovan McNabb 12. Matt Ryan 13. Jay Cutler 14. Carson Palmer 15. Flacco 16. Jason Campbell 17. Kyle Orton 18. Vince Young 19. Chad Henne 20. Matthew Stafford 21. Matt Hasselbeck 22. Matt Cassel 23. Sanchez 24. Garrard 25. Alex Smith 26. Matt moore (not exactly proven but better then some) The rest of the QBs just suck ass and aren't really better in any given order. I'm not counting rookies because they're unproven ( even if they may appear to be good you can never know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABQCOWBOY Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Brees Payton Brady Rivers Romo sits to pee Rodgers McNabb Eli Warner Palmer I can't put Roethlisberger on this list because he's going to sit and even after that, he's going to have huge pressure on him no matter where he plays. I can't put Favre on this list until he actually suits up. If he does show up to play in Minny, then he's probably top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VA Cowboy fan Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 I always thought McNabb was a top 10 QB. I think only Manning and Brady have more wins than he does over the past decade. So he knows how to win, you can't dispute that. If he can win a Super Bowl here, I think that might cement him as a HoFer. If McNabb pulls that off here I think that might cement him as a wizard. Now that is funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 1.) Peyton Manning 2.) Drew Brees 3.) Tom Brady 4.) Ben Rothlisberger 5.) Brett Favre 6.) Phillip Rivers 7.) Aaron Rogers 8.) Matt Schuab 9.) Tony Romo sits to pee 10.) Donovan McNabb 11.) Eli Manning 12.) Matt Ryan 13.) Carson Palmer 14.) Joe Flacco 15.) Jay Cutler 16.) Mark Sanchez 17.) Vince Young 18.) Jason Campbell 19.) Matt Cassell 20.) Chad Henne 21.) Kevin Kolb 22.) David Gerard 23.) Matt Hassleback 24.) Kyle Ortan 25.) Matt Lienhart 26.) Matthew Stafford 27.) Alex Smith 28.) Josh Freeman 29.) Matt Moore 30.) Sam Bradford 31.) Trent Edwards 32.) Jake Delhomme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenderoftheStar Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 How come most people put Rodgers ahead of Romo sits to pee? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thespaniard Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm not sure why anyone would put Brady ahead of Brees at this point. Brady missed almost all of 2008 and certainly had a good year last year, but has not performed to the level that Brees is currently at since 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 How come most people put Rodgers ahead of Romo sits to pee? Just curious. Because he's better than Romo sits to pee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 How come most people put Rodgers ahead of Romo sits to pee? Just curious. Because Rodgers is awesome. At this point in his career, I would take him over any other QB in the league. There are a couple that are better than him, but he is younger and has looked just as good. If he has a good O-line he is only going to continue to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I'm not sure why anyone would put Brady ahead of Brees at this point. Brady missed almost all of 2008 and certainly had a good year last year, but has not performed to the level that Brees is currently at since 2007. Brady is ahead of Brees based on his career. So its stuck in peoples minds. Brees is definitely better at this point, though granted Brady could come out and prove otherwise next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thespaniard Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Brady is ahead of Brees based on his career. So its stuck in peoples minds. Brees is definitely better at this point, though granted Brady could come out and prove otherwise next year. Yeah obviously Brady has had the better career thus far. I guess to me the OP is more about who currently is better as opposed to who has had the better career. But if we ARE basing this on total career, shouldn't Favre be in everyone's top 2 or 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 How come most people put Rodgers ahead of Romo sits to pee? Just curious. Younger, better model with more upside who's not prone to just throw it up there for a crucial pick at a crucial time. And he never became a National laughing stock by lowering himself to the Simpson level. . Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Yeah obviously Brady has had the better career thus far. I guess to me the OP is more about who currently is better as opposed to who has had the better career. But if we ARE basing this on total career, shouldn't Favre be in everyone's top 2 or 3? And I am sure the point is who is better NOW. But what I am saying is Brady is kind of stuck in everyones minds as being that top 2 guy, when in reality at this point he is not anymore. He is only like top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sndman8369 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 1. Peyton Manning- Colts 2. Tom Brady- Patriots 3. Drew Brees- Saints 4. Brett Favre- Vikings 5. Phillip Rivers- Chargers 6. Donovan McNabb- Redskins (still weird to say) 7. Aaron Rodgers- Packers 8. Ben Roethlisberger- Steelers 9. Tony Romo sits to pee- Cowboys 10. Carson Palmer- Bengals 11. Eli Manning- Giants 12. Matt Schaub- Texans 13. Vince Young- Titans 14. Matt Ryan- Falcons 15. Joe Flacco- Ravens 16. Jay Cutler- Bears 17. Mark Sanchez- Jets 18. Jason Campbell- Raiders 19. Matt Hasselbeck- Seahawks 20. Matthew Stafford- Lions 21. Chad Henne- Dolphins 22. Kevin Kolb- Eagles 23. Kyle Orton- Broncos 24. Sam Bradford- Rams 25. Jimmy Claussen- Panthers (think he beats out Moore) 26. Jake Delhomme- Browns 27. Alex Smith- 49ers 28. David Garrard- Jaguars 29. Josh Freeman- Bucs 30. Matt Leinart- Cardinals 31. Matt Cassel- Chiefs 32. Trent Edwards- Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 So, I'm going to do my ranking based upon the skill level of these QB's RIGHT NOW, and try to ignore the power that some of the bigger names have from their past performances, and some of the stigma attached to the names of others who haven't performed up to their potential in the past. I'm also not doing any stat checking on any of them, I'm doing my ranking purely on who I'd want as my quarterback, based on the sight test, AKA my opinion, and NOT factoring in age, because that would change the whole list. Here we go. 1. Peyton Manning 2. Drew Brees 3. Phillip Rivers 4. Aaron Rodgers 5.Tom Brady *note* if playing, insert Brett Favre here 6. Donovan McNabb 7. Matt Schaub 8. Tony Romo sits to pee 9. Ben Roethlisberger 10. Eli Manning 11. Carson Palmer 12. Matt Ryan 13. Jay Cutler 14. Joe Flacco 15. Vince Young 16. Matthew Stafford 17. Matt Hasselbeck 18. Kyle Orton 19. Matt Cassel 20. Kevin Kolb 21. David Garrard 22. Jason Campbell 23. Mark Sanchez 24. Kevin Kolb 25. Alex Smith 26. Chad Henne 27. Sam Bradford *note* Insert Sage Rosenfels here 28. Matt Leinart 29. Matt Moore 30. Jake Delhomme *note* Insert Tarvaris Jackson here 31. Josh Freeman 32. Trent Edwards I would have liked to rank a guy like Kolb higher, but honestly, I already ranked him higher than he probably should be, just like I did Bradford and Stafford, based off of potential. And hey, its my list, so shut up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I think Josh Freeman may be a bit underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Based on who will be starting (or who I think will be starting) this season ... 1. Peyton Manning - Still the best in the game. 2. Drew Brees - Hasn't had as many years of amazing play as Manning, but the past years and last year's Super Bowl run are nothing short of incredible. 3. Phillip Rivers - If anyone else were his coach, he'd have been in a Super Bowl by now. 4. Tom Brady - Really fell off last season, didn't look all that invincible, still this high up because of his moments of great play and his resume. 5. Aaron Rodgers - Steadily establishing himself as one of the top QB's in the league, and he had virtually no protection. 6. Tony Romo sits to pee - Still a great regular season QB, still a chokeartist in the playoffs. 7. Donovan McNabb - Still is putting up some excellent numbers. 8. Brett Favre - Based on last year alone, Brett can still play with the best of them. 9. Eli Manning - I'll give Eli a pass on that he has some really young and unreliable targets as of this point, outside of Steve Smith and Kevin Boss. 10. Matt Schaub - Plays in a really QB friendly system with a really QB friendly receiver in Andre Johnson. Will this continue without Kyle Shanahan? 11. Ben Roethlisberger - Less than desirable pocket passing skills, but his improvisation is almost second to none in the league. 12. Carson Palmer - Has had to battle through injuries and a lack of a targets. Will be interesting to see how he does with how the Bengals upgraded their receiving corps. 13. Vince Young - Showed some intense growth last season and actually was able to throw the ball impressively. 14. Matt Ryan - Kinda fell off after his great rookie season, I could totally see him making the jump into the top 10 this season, barring any injuries. 15. Joe Flacco - Looked like he really regressed at times, his new QB coach in Zorn should bring out some improved perfomance. 16. Jay Cutler - Still middle of the pack thanks to his past performances, but another season like the '09 one could put him in the bottom of the pile. 17. Matthew Stafford - Looks like Detroit finally solved their QB problem. 18. Matt Hasselbeck - Still a franchise passer, has had to battle through injuries. 19. Mark Sanchez - As far as the Jets got last season, Sanchez had his moments where he was flat out awful. Needs to show some growth to match the talent he's surrounded by. 20. Chad Henne - Certainly was an upgrade over Pennington for Miami, is a bit of a question mark going into this season. 21. Jason Campbell - He's certainly better than JaMarcus Russell, and the fact is that he has yet to have a worse year than his previous one in his career. 22. Kyle Orton - Had this team on the verge of greatness, than he played like Kyle Orton again. 23. Josh Freeman - Looked really impressive at times on an extremely bad and young team. 24. Sam Bradford - He's a better QB now than any of the guys below him, who haven't shown enough to prove otherwise. 25. Kevin Kolb - Has had two really nice starts, but both were against teams with less than stellar defenses. Has to show a lot more. 26. Jimmy Clausen - Like Bradford, should be just as good than anyone below him on this list, and has room to get better. 27. Alex Smith - Very pedestrian QB, decent stats at best. 28. David Garrard - Same as Alex Smith. 29. Trent Edwards - Showed some flashes in 2008 and in the beginning of last season. Could he bounce back with Chan Gailey? 30. Matt Cassel - Bearing in mind that he played on a team with very few good receivers, he sure didn't look the same he did when he could throw to Randy Moss and Wes Welker. 31. Matt Leinart - How the hell can you look as bad as he has, when you have Larry Fitzgerald, Steve Breaston, and Anquan Boldin (at the time) to throw to? 32. Jake Delhomme - That Arizona playoff game has scarred his psyche IMO, Cleveland will likely end up starting Seneca Wallace by Week 6-7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoGravity Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 1.) Drew Brees2.) Peyton Manning 3.) Tom Brady 4.) Ben Rothlisberger 5.) Brett Favre 6.) Phillip Rivers 7.) Aaron Rogers 8.) Tony Romo sits to pee 9.) Donovan McNabb 10.) Eli Manning 11.) Carson Palmer 12.) Matt Schuab 13.) Matt Ryan 14.) Joe Flacco 15.) Jay Cutler 16.) Matt Cassell 17.) Vince Young 18.) Matthew Stafford 19.) Mark Sanchez 20.) Chad Henne 21.) Kevin Kolb 22.) Jason Campbell 23.) Matt Hassleback 24.) Kyle Ortan 25.) David Gerard 26.) Matt Lienhart 27.) Alex Smith 28.) Josh Freeman 29.) Matt Moore 30.) Sam Bradford 31.) Trent Edwards 32.) Jake Delhomme Probably the most accurate list here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenderoftheStar Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Some of you insist that the whole team is played by the QB and not really chalking up that some qb's , eli manning for example, have been bailed out by a good defense. Now how can McNabb not be a choke artist, yet Romo sits to pee is, and Brees got to play with a better offense than Indy and some how that makes him better than Peyton who is the best student of the game? Seriously? Are you calculating who is doing well with a better crop of WR's, RB's and offensive line when putting these lists together. I bet none of you would ever have Testeverde whos played decent with bad lines on any of your lists, yet a guy like Brees, who it took a new team and two decent RB's to finally get to the SB after 4 years sucking it on SD where Rivers is doing a heck of a job? Who has noted the defense Eli got to have when all Spag did was blitz blitz blitz, and much like Jimmy JOhnsone of the Eagles, when the blitz didnt work, you blitz again. Who took note that even those Rothlisberger had the worst rating of any SB QB, yet won because of a strong defense, and when that defense hasnt been strong, neither is his winning percentage? Clausen??? REALLY?? What has he done to EVEN remotely think he'll have a good year? No love for Ryan? How come Hasselbeck is rated well because the Seahawks wouldnt admit they couldnt find anyone better? Matt Moore beat better teams than Kolb did and yet people have Kolb rated higher than Moore, who went from PS to a 53 man roster and should have taken over a long time ago for an aging DelHomme? Really? Romo sits to pee, whos last year best reciever was HIS TE and his WR drop the ball more times than Skins fans last year dropping F bombs over that team? Really? Brady who has worked with little over the years has won the SB, probably due to system, insert Cassell in the same system, take Cassell out and you have pedestrian QB in KC? What is most of you basing these ratings off of? You want to underate a QB, how about Campbell who hasnt been 2 years in the same system since HS or early college? That poor guy got a bum rap in Washington because the owner wont admit when he makes a bad decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Some of you insist that the whole team is played by the QB and not really chalking up that some qb's , eli manning for example, have been bailed out by a good defense.Now how can McNabb not be a choke artist, yet Romo sits to pee is, and Brees got to play with a better offense than Indy and some how that makes him better than Peyton who is the best student of the game? Seriously? Are you calculating who is doing well with a better crop of WR's, RB's and offensive line when putting these lists together. I bet none of you would ever have Testeverde whos played decent with bad lines on any of your lists, yet a guy like Brees, who it took a new team and two decent RB's to finally get to the SB after 4 years sucking it on SD where Rivers is doing a heck of a job? Who has noted the defense Eli got to have when all Spag did was blitz blitz blitz, and much like Jimmy JOhnsone of the Eagles, when the blitz didnt work, you blitz again. Who took note that even those Rothlisberger had the worst rating of any SB QB, yet won because of a strong defense, and when that defense hasnt been strong, neither is his winning percentage? Clausen??? REALLY?? What has he done to EVEN remotely think he'll have a good year? No love for Ryan? How come Hasselbeck is rated well because the Seahawks wouldnt admit they couldnt find anyone better? Matt Moore beat better teams than Kolb did and yet people have Kolb rated higher than Moore, who went from PS to a 53 man roster and should have taken over a long time ago for an aging DelHomme? Really? Romo sits to pee, whos last year best reciever was HIS TE and his WR drop the ball more times than Skins fans last year dropping F bombs over that team? Really? Brady who has worked with little over the years has won the SB, probably due to system, insert Cassell in the same system, take Cassell out and you have pedestrian QB in KC? What is most of you basing these ratings off of? You want to underate a QB, how about Campbell who hasnt been 2 years in the same system since HS or early college? That poor guy got a bum rap in Washington because the owner wont admit when he makes a bad decision. First off, your post was a little confusing in some spots, I am assuming you wrote it quickly. The thing is, that is your opinion. How do you know what people didnt take that into account? This entire thread is people posting their opinions about each QB and where they are ranked for their own reasons. Most people arent going to agree with you in every aspect, which is why its interesting to read these thread and see how people see each QB or RB like in the other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 Hey Defender, let's see your rankings then! There is no right or wrong answer here, I just wanted to see who people thought were the top QBs in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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