China Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Haven't used that word in a long time, but I'm sure I did when I was younger. I agree with those that state there are myriad ways you can insult somebody without using the word retard. Here are a couple hundred classic examples, none of which use the word retard: The trouble with her is that she lacks the power of conversation but not the power of speech. - George Bernard Shaw Last week I stated that this woman was the ugliest woman I had ever seen. I have since been visited by her sister and now wish to withdraw that statement. - Mark Twain A modest little person, with much to be modest about. - Winston Churchill At first I thought he was walking a dog. Then I realized it was his date. - Edith Massey His voice was the most obnoxious squeak I ever was tormented with. - Charles Lamb Her face was her chaperone. - Rupert Hughes I see her as one great stampede of lips directed at the nearest derriere. - Noel Coward Nature played a cruel trick on her by giving her a waxed mustache. - Alan Bennett She is a pea**** in everything but beauty. - Oscar Wilde She not only kept her lovely figure, she's added so much to it. - Bob Fosse She was a large woman who seemed not so much dressed as upholstered. - James Matthew Barrie She was so ugly she could make a mule back away from an oat bin. - Will Rogers She wears her clothes as if they were thrown on with a pitchfork. - Jonathan Swift The tautness of his face sours ripe grapes. - William Shakespeare He is a man of splendid abilities but is utterly corrupt. He shines and stinks like rotten mackerel by moonlight. - John Randolph He never bore a grudge against anyone he wronged. - Simone Signoret No one can have a higher opinion of him than I have; and I think he's a dirty little beast. - W. S. Gilbert He has all the characteristics of a dog except loyalty. - Sam Houston, on Thomas Jefferson Green Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. - Mark Twain There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress. - Mark Twain Her hat is a creation that will never go out of style. It will look ridiculous year after year. - Fred Allen I remember when I was a child, being taken to the celebrated Barnum's Circus, which contained an exhibition of freaks and monstrosities, but the exhibit on the program which I most desired to see was the one described as "The Boneless Wonder". My parents judged that the spectacle would be too demoralizing and revolting for my youthful eye and I have waited fifty years, to see the The Boneless Wonder sitting on the Treasury Bench. - Winston Churchill, on Ramsay MacDonald Elizabeth Taylor's so fat, she puts mayonnaise on an aspirin. - Joan Rivers She looks like she combs her hair with an egg beater. - Critic Louella Parsons on Joan Collins Why don't you get a haircut? You look like a chrysanthemum. - P. G. Wodehouse I think it would be a very good idea. - Mahatma Ghandi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure. - Jack E. Leonard Another victory like that and we are done for. - Pyrrhus The idea of Prince Charles conversing with vegetables is not quite so amusing when you remember that he's had plenty of practice chatting to members of his own family. - Jaci Stephens He missed an invaluable opportunity to hold his tongue. - Andrew Lang I would not want to put him in charge of snake control in Ireland. - Eugene McCarthy I married beneath me. All women do. - Lady Nancy Astor In a mere half century films have gone from silent to unspeakable. - Doug Larson Awards are like hemorrhoids; sooner or later every ******* gets one. - Frederic Raphael I am fairly unrepentant about her poetry. I really think that three quarters of it is gibberish. However, I must crush down these thoughts, otherwise the dove of peace will **** on me. - Noel Coward on Edith Sitwell This isn't right. This isn't even wrong. - Wolfgang Pauli The play was a great success, but the audience was a disaster. - Oscar Wilde We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe. - Johann von Goethe I once sent a dozen of my friends a telegram saying 'flee at once - all is discovered.' They all left town immediately. - Mark Twain Biologically speaking, if something bites you, it is more likely to be female. - Desmond Morris The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are composed entirely of lost airline luggage. - Mark Russell Some folks seem to have descended from the chimpanzee later than others. - Kin Hubbard The terrifying power of the human sex drive is horrifically demonstrated by the fact that someone was willing to father you. - Ipso Fatso Sir, you pride yourself on an ability in which any ignorant barbarian is your equal and any jackass immeasurably your superior. - John Randolph Some people can stay longer in an hour than others can in a week. - William Dean Howells Stay with me, I want to be alone. - Joey Adams I'd like to thank my family for loving me and taking care of me. And the rest of the world can kiss my ass. - Johnny Frank Garrett, Sr., executed by injection, Texas If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning. - Catherine Aird Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is only stupid. - Heinrich Heine They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge. - Thomas Brackett Reed He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot. - Groucho Marx What's on your mind? If you'll forgive the overstatement. - Fred Allen Debating against him is no fun, say something insulting and he looks at you like a whipped dog. - Harold Wilson If all the girls who attended the Harvard-Yale game were laid end to end, I wouldn't be surprised. - Dorothy Parker All the great economic ills the world has faced this century can be directly traced back to the London School of Economics. - NM Perrera I used to keep my college room mate from reading my personal mail by hiding it in her textbooks. - Joan Welsh Sociology is the study of people who do not need to be studied by people who do. - ES Turner His ignorance is encyclopedic. - Abba Eban It's great to be with Bill Buckley because you don't have to think. He takes a position and you automatically take the opposite and you know you are right. - J.K.Galbraith He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know. - Abraham Lincoln I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception. - Groucho Marx I would like to take you seriously, but to do so would be an affront to your intelligence. - George Bernard Shaw You must have taken great pains, sir; you could not have been naturally so stupid. - Samuel Johnson You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance. - Edward Flaherty A wit with dunces, and a dunce with wits. - Alexander Pope Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein He was born stupid, and greatly increased his birthright. - Samuel Butler I want to reach your mind - where is it currently located? - Ashleigh Brilliant He's as big as a gorilla and as strong as a gorilla. If he was as smart as a gorilla he'd be fine. - Sam Bailey When you go to the mind reader, do you get half price? - David Letterman Give a man a fish and he has food for a day; teach him how to fish and you can get rid of him of the entire weekend. - Zenna Schaffer There are three stages of man: He believes in Santa Claus; he doesn't believe in Santa Claus; he is Santa Claus. - Bob Philips An extravagance is anything you buy that is of no earthly use to your wife. - Franklin Adams It doesn't make any difference what you do in the bedroom as long as you don't do it in the street and frighten the horses. - Mrs. Patrick Campbell I've had them both, and I don't think much of either. - Beatrix Lehmann, watching a Hollywood wedding In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily. - Charles, Count Talleyrand She has been kissed as often as a police-court Bible, and by much the same class of people. - Robertson Davies There goes the famous good time that was had by all. - Bette Davis She should get a divorce and settle down. - Jack Parr That woman speaks eight languages and can't say "no" in any of them. - Dorothy Parker Wild horses couldn't drag a secret out of most women. However, women seldom have lunch with wild horses. - Ivern Boyett Where would man be today if it wasn't for women? In the Garden of Eden eating water melon and taking it easy. - C Kennedy Women should be obscene and not heard. - Groucho Marx. Damn it, sir, it is your duty to get married. You can't be always living for pleasure. - Oscar Wilde Before marriage, a man will lie awake all night thinking about something you said; after marriage, he'll fall asleep before you finish saying it. - Helen Roland Marriage is a three ring circus: engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffer-ring. - Emo Phillips I never married because there was no need. I have three pets at home, which answer the same purpose as a husband. I have a dog which growls every morning, a parrot which swears all afternoon and a cat that comes home late at night. - Marie Corelli My wife has a slight speech impediment. Every now and then she stops to breathe. - Jack Durante The only time my wife and I had a simultaneous orgasm was when the judge signed the divorce papers. - Woody Allen Before I met my husband, I'd never fallen in love, though I'd stepped in it a few times. - Rita Rudner I've had bad luck with both my wives. The first one left me and the second one didn't. - Patrick Murray Instead of getting married again, I'm going to find a woman I don't like and give her a house. - Lewis Grizzard He was so narrow minded, he could see through a keyhole with both eyes. - Molly Ivins Why don't you bore a hole in yourself and let the sap run out? - Groucho Marx She was like a sinking ship firing on the rescuers. - Alexander Woollcott He was one of the nicest old ladies I ever met. - William Faulkner He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up. - Paul Keating Sometimes I need what only you can provide: your absence. - Ashleigh Brilliant Every time I look at you I get a fierce desire to be lonesome. - Oscar Levant Don't look now, but there's one too many in this room and I think it's you. - Groucho Marx Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. - Oscar Wilde I worship the quicksand he walks in. - Art Buchwald He is the same old sausage, fizzing and sputtering in his own grease. - Henry James I regard you with an indifference bordering on aversion. - Robert Louis Stevenson I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial. - Irvin S. Cobb You had to stand in line to hate him. - Hedda Hopper He's the only guy I know whom Dale Carnegie would hit in the mouth. - Bill Veeck He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends. - Oscar Wilde She never was really charming till she died. - Terence The last time I saw him he was walking down Lover's Lane holding his own hand. - Fred Allen There but for the grace of God, goes God. - Winston Churchill You can always tell when he's lying - his lips move. - Frankie Howard on Richard M. Nixon Richard Nixon is a no-good lying ****. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he'd lie just to keep his hand in. - Harry S. Truman on Richard Nixon He's completely unspoiled by failure. - Noel Coward She's descended from a long line her mother listened to. - Gypsy Rose Lee I'll bet your father spent the first year of your life throwing rocks at the stork. - Irving Brecher You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we don't know where the hell she is. - Ellen DeGeneris Cucumber should be well sliced, dressed with pepper and vinegar, and then thrown out. - Samuel Johnson There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. - Douglas Adams I read the newspapers avidly. It is my one form of continuous fiction. - Aneurin Bevan I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book. - Groucho Marx He ended the job as he began it; fired with enthusiasm. - Don O'Shaughnessy Statistics indicate that as a result of overwork, modern executives are dropping like flies on the nation's golf courses. - Ira Wallach He knows nothing; and he thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career. - George Bernard Shaw As with mosquitoes, horseflies, and most bloodsucking parasites, Kenneth Starr was spawned in stagnant water. - James Carville Today's public figures can no longer write their own speeches or books, and there is some evidence that they can't read them either. - Gore Vidal Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. - Tom Lehrer Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them. - Paul Valery Americans have different ways of saying things; they say "elevator", we say "lift"; they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git." - Alexai Sayle The Prime Minister has an absolute genius for putting flamboyant labels on empty luggage. - Aneurin Bevan, on Harold Macmillan A nonentity with side whiskers. - Woodrow Wilson, on Chester A. Arthur I must remind the right honorable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill An empty taxi arrived at 10 Downing Street, and when the door was opened, Atlee got out. - Winston Churchill, on Clement Atlee One could not even dignify him with the name of stuffed shirt. He was simply a hole in the air. - George Orwell, on Stanley Baldwin He occasionally stumbled over the truth, but hastily picked himself up and hurried on as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill, on Stanley Baldwin We make fun of George W. Bush, but this morning he was at work bright and early. Okay, he was early. - Jay Leno Reagan won because he ran against Jimmy Carter, if he'd run unopposed he would have lost. - Mort Sahl It is impossible to obtain a conviction for sodomy from an English jury. Half of them don't believe that it can physically be done, and the other half are doing it. - Winston Churchill He looks as though he's been weaned on a pickle. - Alice Roosevelt Longworth, on Calvin Coolidge Calvin Coolidge didn't say much, and when he did he didn't say much. - Will Rogers, on Calvin Coolidge A sophisticated rhetorician, inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity, and gifted with an egotistical imagination that can at all times command an interminable and inconsistent series of arguments to malign an opponent and to glorify himself. - Benjamin Disraeli, on William Gladstone If Gladstone fell into the Thames, it would be a misfortune. But if someone pulled him out, it would be a calamity. - Benjamin Disraeli, on William Gladstone History buffs probably noted the reunion at a Washington party a few weeks ago of three ex-presidents: Carter, Ford, and Nixon-See No Evil, Hear No Evil, and Evil. - Robert J. Dole, speech, 1983 He is so dumb he can't fart and chew gum at the same time. - Lyndon Baines, Johnson on Gerald Ford He's a nice guy, but he played too much football with his helmet off. - Lyndon Baines, Johnson on Gerald Ford His speeches left the impression of an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape in search of an idea. - William McAdoo, on Warren Harding Any political party that can't cough up anything better than a treacherous brain-damaged old vulture like Hubert Humphrey deserves every beating it gets. They don't hardly make 'em like Hubert any more - but just to be on the safe side, he should be castrated anyway. - Hunter S. Thompson, on Hubert Humphrey, 1973 An offensive exhibition of boorishness and vulgarity. - General McCellan, on Abraham Lincoln Don't be so humble, you're not that great. - Golda Meir to Moshe Dayan A little emasculated mass of inanity. - Theodore Roosevelt, on Henry James A politician is a person who approaches every subject with an open mouth. - Adlai Stevenson The Prime Minister tells us she has given the French president a piece of her mind, not a gift I would receive with alacrity. - Denis Healy Whenever cannibals are on the brink of starvation, Heaven, in its infinite mercy, sends them a fat missionary. - Oscar Wilde Thank you for sending me a copy of your book - I'll waste no time reading it. - Moses Hadas From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it. - Groucho Marx Fine words! I wonder where you stole them. - Jonathan Swift The covers of this book are too far apart. - Ambrose Bierce This is not a book which should be put aside lightly, it should be tossed aside with great force. - Dorothy Parker I didn't like the play but then I saw it under adverse conditions - the curtain was up. - Groucho Marx This book is both good and original, but the part that is original is not good and the part that is good, is not original. - George Bernard Shaw This is one of those big, fat paperbacks, intended to while away a monsoon or two, which, if thrown with a good over arm action, will bring a water buffalo to its knees. - Nancy Banks-Smith on M.M. Kaye's "The Far Pavillions" Nature not content with denying him the ability to think, has endowed him with the ability to write. - A. E. Housman An editor should have a pimp for a brother so he'd have someone to look up to. - Gene Fowler Writing is not necessarily something to be ashamed of, but do it in private and wash your hands afterwards. - Robert Heinlein I am sitting in the smallest room of my house. I have your review before me. In a moment it shall be behind me. - Max Reger in a letter to critic Rudolph Louis Everywhere I go I'm asked if I think that university stifles writers. My opinion is that they don't stifle enough of them. - Flannery O'Connor Paradise Lost is a book that, once put down, is very hard to pick up again. - Samuel Johnson Every word she writes is a lie, including "and" and "the." - Mary McCarthy on Lillian Hellman Sitting in a sewer and adding to it. - Thomas Carlyle, on Algernon Charles Swinburne A fat little flabby person, with the face of a baker, the clothes of a cobbler, the size of a barrel maker, the manners of a stocking salesman, and the dress of an innkeeper. - Victor de Balabin, on Honor? de Balzac If people don't sit at Chaplin's feet, he goes out and stands where they are sitting. - Herman J. Mankiewicz, on Charlie Chaplin A woman went to a plastic surgeon and asked him to make her like Bo Derek. He gave her a lobotomy. - Joan Rivers Glenda Jackson has a face to launch a thousand dredgers. - Jack deManio She has discovered the secret of perpetual middle age. - Oscar Levant, on Zsa Zsa Gabor Martin's acting is so inept that even his impersonation of a lush seems unconvincing. - Harry Medved, on Dean Martin I treasure every moment that I do not see her. - Oscar Levant, on Phyllis Diller She's so hairy - when she lifted up her arm I thought it was Tina Turner in her armpit. - Joan Rivers, on Madonna Hollywood is a place where people from Iowa mistake each other for stars. - Fred Allen A celebrity is a person who works hard all his life to become well known, then wears dark glasses to avoid being recognized. - Fred Allen She's the kind of girl who climbed the ladder of success, wrong by wrong. - Mae West, on fellow film star, Jean Harlow An Actor is someone whom, if you aren't talking about him, he isn't listening. - Marlon Brando Zsa Zsa Gabor has been married so many times she has rice marks on her face. - Henny Youngman Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale her infinite sameness. - David Shipmanon, on Marlene Dietrich He got a reputation as a great actor by just thinking hard about the next line. - King Vidor, on Gary Cooper Hah! I always knew Frank would end up in bed with a boy! - Ava Gardner, on Mia Farrow's marriage to Frank Sinatra Maybe it's the hair. Maybe it's the teeth. Maybe it's the intellect. No, it's the hair. - Tom Shales, on Farrah Fawcett He's the type of man who will end up dying in his own arms. - Mamie Van Doren on Warren Beatty Who among us has not gazed thoughtfully and patiently at a painting of Jackson Pollock and thought "What a piece of crap?" - Rob Long There are some experiences in life which should not be demanded twice from any man, and one of them is listening to the Brahms Requiem. - George Bernard Shaw I had no idea Stravinsky disliked Debussy as much as this. - Ernest Newman, on Stravinsky's "Symphony of Wind Instruments" in memory of Debussy When they asked Jack Benny to do something for the Actor's Orphanage - he shot both his parents and moved in. - Bob Hope, on Jack Benny Michael Jackson was a poor black boy who grew up to be a rich white woman. - Molly Ivins Michael Jackson's album was only called "Bad" because there wasn't enough room on the sleeve for "Pathetic." - The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Somebody should clip Sting around the head and tell him to stop using that ridiculous Jamaican accent. - Elvis Costello, on Sting An unmanly sort of man whose love life seems to have been largely confined to crying in laps and playing mouse. - W. H. Auden, on Edgar Allan Poe That's not writing, that's typing. - Truman Capote, on Jack Kerouac's style Of course, America had often been discovered before Columbus, but it had always been hushed up. - Oscar Wilde Always willing to lend a hand to the one above him. - F. Scott Fitzgerald, on Ernest Hemmingway A freakish homunculus germinated outside of lawful procreation. - Henry Arthur Jones, on George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac Patty Wack Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 This thread is gay. Is that a guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac Patty Wack Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I disagree. Every time we try to tell people not to use a word, you make the word stronger and more meaningful. I have a mentally handicapped uncle that I am very close with and would defend if anyone ever tried to insult him but I use the word retarded all the time. I do not use it to demean a mentally handicapped person. I use it to call my friends slow when they say something dumb. I am really tired of not being able to say things or do things because other people get offended. Guess what? Someone gets offended by everything. The more and more we cater to them, we take away freedom of speech from everyone else. People should be able to express themselves however they want. The N word is another word I think its ridiculous we flip out so much about. Why can black people use it but as soon as someone else says it its racist and they should be strung up. Its just a word. Why are we not allowed to insult one another? If someone is being an a-hole, I should be able to call him an a-hole. Tell the people who keep getting offended over everything and want to turn it into a cause to suck it up and deal with it. We have become such a soft country. People need to toughen up and start dealing with life in general. I think we're brothers separated at birth. Everyone gets so offended over everything. This generation has gotten so soft it's scary. Laxbuddy's right. It takes away our freedom of speech. It's now all of a sudden criminal to be religious in a public school. You can't say the word "Christmas" anymore without being reprimanded and getting some sort of punishment. It doesn't sound the same, but it's the same idea. And when someone says "retard" and you have a retarded family member or friend, know that the person is not making fun of the retarded family member or friend. It's nothing personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Of course, hick, or hillbilly, are both fine. Along with redneck ,(many different kinds of whitey) which will always be acceptable. :no: actually, they're not. They may not have quite the same historical stigma as other racial slurs, but they are racial/ethnic slurs nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I only use that word in a medical sense. I also work for a nonprofit company that works with persons with developmental disabilities. They're not "retards" or the well meaning, but antiquated "mentally handicapped." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I understand what you're saying, but I still don't see how one could think using the word "retard" is ok. To my knowledge, the noun "retard" is not a word that was once a medical or academic term (like oriental) that later morphed into something offensive. It was born as an insult and remains an insult. And it's hurtful to people whose lives have been touched by mental handicap. To me, that's the end of the story. I don't know about it being a clinical term, though I'd certainly take Techboy's word for it since he says he works in the field. However, as a child I learned the word as a simple descriptive term much as one would say "The Smith's child was born "slow"". And in fact, that seems to be the actual origin of the word. Of course that doesn't make it any more acceptable than the descriptor/title "N-word Jim" either I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I've never really been on a crusade for abolishing any words. I don't get easily offended so I never found the need. I've used words like homo, fag, retard, fat ass and ***** (when referring to my boys). I'm sure that they could be taken badly but I only use such strong words when I'm with friends. I don't try and use politically incorrect words when I'm withing earshot of public. I don't really see what the huge deal is though. If words are not used in a hateful context I don't believe in abolishing them. I don't use said words hatefully towards my friends therefore I don't believe that they should be abolished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Disagree how? You feel it should be ok to call people retards? Sure Looking at the potential of my country becoming more socialist and people embracing it because someone has a great speaking voice, I have to believe that a large portion of the population are either blissfully ignorant or Retarded. LIBERALS have somethings in common with them and soon you'll only be able to ride short buses to lower carbon footprints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 SureLooking at the potential of my country becoming more socialist and people embracing it because someone has a great speaking voice, I have to believe that a large portion of the population are either blissfully ignorant or Retarded. LIBERALS have somethings in common with them and soon you'll only be able to ride short buses to lower carbon footprints. And conservatives look to big government and Fatass Limbaugh. Not much better. Bush was also a socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 I don't know about it being a clinical term, though I'd certainly take Techboy's word for it since he says he works in the field. However, as a child I learned the word as a simple descriptive term much as one would say "The Smith's child was born "slow"". And in fact, that seems to be the actual origin of the word.Of course that doesn't make it any more acceptable than the descriptor/title "N-word Jim" either I guess. That's true I'm sure for the word "retarded"...but the term I was referring to in the post you quoted is the noun "retard"--with the inflection on the "RE". To my knowledge, that term has always been an insult that was derived from the clinical term "retarded." That's my understanding anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 How about we not turn this thread into a conservative/liberal pissing match. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 How about we not turn this thread into a conservative/liberal pissing match. Thanks in advance.What about a libertarian pissing match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I think the world has bigger fish to fry right now, than if someone gets called a retard, fag, N word or any other bull**** racial/situational remark. You know why people use these words? Because it still bothers people. We have a country full of babies screaming for their mommies every time some kid on the playground calls them a name. It's time to grow up and realize words can't really hurt you, and if they do, then that's your problem. As Katt says.. "I've got bills to pay mother ****er and don't have time for this ****" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 What about a libertarian pissing match? because while the libs/convers are arguing about pissing.. Libertarians have already pissed and are back in the bedroom hittin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I disagree. Every time we try to tell people not to use a word, you make the word stronger and more meaningful. I have a mentally handicapped uncle that I am very close with and would defend if anyone ever tried to insult him but I use the word retarded all the time. Do you call people retarded in front of him or only behind his back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 And conservatives look to big government and Fatass Limbaugh. Not much better. Bush was also a socialist. Conservatives have always wanted smaler government it is the liberals in both parties who want a bigger more intrusive government. Rush Limbaugh equals the entire liberal media machine?? Wow!!! Bush was what you call a moderate except in the area of taxes and fighting the war on terror. He increased entitlement spendingright off the bat and let Ted Kennedy write at the time the largest education bill ever and was going to elect a left leaning Supreme court justice until Conservatives temporarily save the US by forcing him to drop her and elect a better candidate. His failure to point out how Frank and Dodd and some republicans backed the corrupt dealings by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is unforgivable. And yeah the foolish stimulus bailout push by Bush was the foot in the door to start the ball rolling in Socialist moves but that wasnt an excuse for Obama and liberals to screw up even more by going further down that path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 No, if you're using that word to demean someone then it's not cool. Look, I can't tell you how to run your life. If it makes you feel better about yourself to call people retards, then I'm probably not going to change your mind. But I still stand by my belief that it's not cool. People who have someone in their family with this condition would probably agree with me. Feel better about myself? Are you honestly getting offended by the notion that someone, somewhere thinks that we may have placed an incorrect stigma on a word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxBuddy21 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Do you call people retarded in front of him or only behind his back? Call my brother retarded in front of him all the time. Im not the kind of person that says things behind someones back. Heck I use the word to insult myself when I say something stupid. If we are following the golden rule, I have no problem with anyone calling me any name they want to. I dont get offended because someone calls me a hick or a redneck. I dont care if someone calls me an a-hole if they think I am being one. Call me whatever you like because I would prefer that to someone being nice to my face and talking about me behind my back. Now that I find offensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Not to long ago Dumb described physical and mental deficiencies before now being used to demean. Heck I remember back in 1991 as a joke because of the growing PC environment I started calling short people vertically Challenged and some saw it as insulting. I did insult several groups back then at a softball game by rooting for one of my teammates by instead of calling him by his Jersey name Ogre, I called him ORG joking that mass inbreedin in WestVA had people reading that way. One lady said she was from WestVa, I said I'm sorry and my buds caught on that I was showing pity for her place of origin not apologizing. I was wrong to demean the procreating practices of people in certain mountain regions and will use restraint in the future. But now this thread is giving me the opportunity to agree that we should not knowingly use words to hurt people.................... unless they deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Call my brother retarded in front of him all the time. Then this isn't true I disagree. Every time we try to tell people not to use a word, you make the word stronger and more meaningful. I have a mentally handicapped uncle that I am very close with and would defend if anyone ever tried to insult him but I use the word retarded all the time. You yourself insult him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxBuddy21 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Then this isn't trueYou yourself insult him. Why because you say its so? So I am being insulted any time someone calls another person a hick because I come from a family of farmers? That is absolutely ridiculous and exactly what is wrong with this country. The more we cater to ignorance like this, the more and more we lose our freedom of speech. If I call you a name, you can bet its you I am insulting and not an entire group of people. People not directly involved in that altercation that get offended need to suck it up and stop being babies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Then this isn't trueYou yourself insult him. Assuming, of course, that using the word "retard" actually is demeaning to those with mental handicaps. Which is kinda what we're debating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxBuddy21 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Assuming, of course, that using the word "retard" actually is demeaning to those with mental handicaps. Which is kinda what we're debating. Its not any more demeaning that calling someone a piece of s---. Its a name like anything else and Im sorry we should be able to call one another names if we want to. No where in the constitution does it give people the right not to be insulted or the right to feel good about themselves at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Why because you say its so? No. Because when you call somebody that, you are insinuating that there is something wrong with it, when in fact there is not. You are telling someone that they have messed up something so bad that you think they are lowered to your Uncle's level (as if he is beneath you). So I am being insulted any time someone calls another person a hick because I come from a family of farmers? That is absolutely ridiculous and exactly what is wrong with this country. The more we cater to ignorance like this, the more and more we lose our freedom of speech. If I call you a name, you can bet its you I am insulting and not an entire group of people. People not directly involved in that altercation that get offended need to suck it up and stop being babies This has absolutely nothing to do with your freedom of speech. Your freedom of speech is with the law. According to the law, you are free to insult your Uncle as much as you want. Denigrating your Uncle is a matter of choice. Someday I think you will make the right choice. When someone arrests you or fines you for insulting your uncle, then it will be a matter of freedom. Until then, it's merely a matter of human decency. I don't think it's cool to call someone a hick or a redneck, but your comparison is not analogous because being a farmer is a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Assuming, of course, that using the word "retard" actually is demeaning to those with mental handicaps. Which is kinda what we're debating. I don't agree. Intent is everything. If he means it as an insult, the implication to folks who really have the condition is negative and degrading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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