LandryLaysWood Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 After looking at some mock drafts and coming up with scenarios on my own I've realized that there is a very good possibility that the "Big Four" OTs in this year's draft may all be gone before we draft at 13. That would include Andre Smith (Alabama), Michael Oher (Ole Miss), Jason Smith (Baylor), Eugene Monroe (UVA). My assumption for this years draft is that the first 12 picks go somewhat as follows: 1) Detroit- Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia 2) St. Louis- Andre Smith, T, Alabama 3) Kansas City- Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas 4) Seattle- Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech 5) Cleveland- Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest 6) Cincinnati- Michael Oher, T, Ole Miss 7) Oakland- Jason Smith, T, Baylor 8) Jacksonville- Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC 9) Green Bay- Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State 10) San Francisco- Eugene Monroe, T, UVA 11) Buffalo- Taylor Mays, S, USC 12) Denver- James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State Now obviously this is a very rough sketch of the first round so don't be too critical on this part. My point is it is very possible that the "Big Four" could all be gone. I would love to see us take an OT to replace Jansen/Heyer to bolster our offensive line which was absolutely horrible this year. That leaves us with a few others scenarios: 1) Trade Down- With the big 4 gone it may make sense to try and trade down a bit to try and acquire extra picks since we really don't have many this year and have more than a few needs. 2) Ciron Black, T, LSU 3) Michael Johnson, DE, GT 4) Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma Any thoughts where else we would possibly go? :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 If there is no value for tackle at 13, then I'd hate to say it, but draft DT or LB as probably the next place where there might be value. I'd stay away from QB, WR, CB, TE and Safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'Em84 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 BJ Raji, or trade down and get Terrence Cody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I'm not in draft mode yet and I wait until I hear from Mayock before making any sort of definitive decisions, but Michael Johnson looks like a good move IMO. Vinny is looking to trade down and hopefully he finds a partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALLz Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 If we can't trade down I'd say reach for Duke. A lot of a would love to trade down and draft him in the late teens or early 20's anyway so drafting him 7 spots earlier isn't a huge deal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I would honestly trade down. But, I think Alex Mack would be worth grabbing. Having a Center that can play Gaurd is something we REALLY NEED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I don't support drafting a position just to be drafting a position if you don't think the guy's got value at that slot. If they don't think much of who's available at 13, try to trade out. Even then though, it takes two to tango on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxpck Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 If all 4 Big O Tackles are gone We go with a big D Tackle. Done and done. TRENCHES PEOPLE. ITS ALL ABOUT THE TRENCHES THIS YEAR. (And an Outside LB) (And a CB) (And a GM) (And a Jumbotron) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWCREDSKINS Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Either Michael Johnson or trade down and maybe Johnson will be available otherwise either Duke Robinson or Evertte Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Trade down. We don't have to draft an O-lineman in the first to get a good, starting O-lineman. If the fit isn't there, trade down or draft another position (D-line, LB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 After looking at some mock drafts and coming up with scenarios on my own I've realized that there is a very good possibility that the "Big Four" OTs in this year's draft may all be gone before we draft at 13. That would include Andre Smith (Alabama), Michael Oher (Ole Miss), Jason Smith (Baylor), Eugene Monroe (UVA). My assumption for this years draft is that the first 12 picks go somewhat as follows:1) Detroit- Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia 2) St. Louis- Andre Smith, T, Alabama 3) Kansas City- Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas 4) Seattle- Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech 5) Cleveland- Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest 6) Cincinnati- Michael Oher, T, Ole Miss 7) Oakland- Jason Smith, T, Baylor 8) Jacksonville- Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC 9) Green Bay- Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State 10) San Francisco- Eugene Monroe, T, UVA 11) Buffalo- Taylor Mays, S, USC 12) Denver- James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State Now obviously this is a very rough sketch of the first round so don't be too critical on this part. My point is it is very possible that the "Big Four" could all be gone. I would love to see us take an OT to replace Jansen/Heyer to bolster our offensive line which was absolutely horrible this year. That leaves us with a few others scenarios: 1) Trade Down- With the big 4 gone it may make sense to try and trade down a bit to try and acquire extra picks since we really don't have many this year and have more than a few needs. 2) Ciron Black, T, LSU 3) Michael Johnson, DE, GT 4) Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma Any thoughts where else we would possibly go? :dallasuck I really like Robinson, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswerdlw Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Best option would be to trade down. I know most people are targeting Detroit as the best trade partner, but we should think about trading with Philly. They have fewer needs than Detroit and may be more willing to part with a pick since they already have 2 first round picks. It would be a pretty even trade if we got their 1st rounder via Carolina as well as their 2nd round pick. With those picks, we should be able to get Alex Mack and a fine linebacker or DT in the second round. With our pick in the third round, we could easily land Alex Boone or Jamon Meredith. If we can't trade down, I'd go for an elite linebacker or def. end. Then seek a right tackle (Boone) in the 3rd round and a guard/ctr in the 5th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I don't support drafting a position just to be drafting a position if you don't think the guy's got value at that slot. If they don't think much of who's available at 13, try to trade out. Even then though, it takes two to tango on that. I agree. I would say that there is a strong chance the top DT is available. This years DT class isn't strong at the top. I would say there is only two worth taking at the top, Cody and Raji. Marks is small and Perria is a high second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I would first try to trade down and grab Duke Robinson a bit later; he may be a big reach at 13 but there is no way to know what certain players stock will look like come draft day. A pure Guard taken that high is very rare. I think Hutch was taken at 17 and he was one of the best Guard prospects ever. Another choice for me would be Clint Sintim, OLB from Virginia. If we could trade down and get him that would be awesome but something tells me his stock is going to go up a decent amount between now and the draft. IMO he is the best OLB fit for us. He is a pass rushing demon (has more career sacks than most of the DE prospects in this class), plays the run very well, great instincts, and is pretty good in coverage for a guy his size (6'3 254). Curry will be the first LB taken but he is more of a run stuffing and coverage OLB, not much of a sack guy, which is what we are in dire need of. Mack I would definitely pick up if we traded down but I really doubt he'll be a top 15 pick so 13 would be a major reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 QUESTION: If the Redskins are able to get a stud OL in the FA like Gross, for those of you who are crazy for him, do we then go DT first round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Trade back and go for Robinison/Mack/Jason Smith or if they can't James Laurinaitis With the tackles gone, I feel like he would be the best player available, but also fits a need. (doubt MWash is coming back) I do agree with the we need to focus on the lines, but we also need good talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 BJ Raji' date=' or trade down and get Terrence Cody.[/quote']Terrence Cody is staying for his Senior year. He won't be coming out this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 QUESTION: If the Redskins are able to get a stud OL in the FA like Gross, for those of you who are crazy for him, do we then go DT first round? This year's DT class is pretty weak. BJ Raji is probably the top prospect and I think he is graded at a low 1st/high 2nd at the moment. Terrence Cody has said he is staying for his Senior year so he won't be available. With how deep the draft is at OL I'd much rather go after Henderson in FA and then draft OL or LB in the 1st or 2nd, depending on who is there. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 But the "we should take . . . ." discussions in terms of specific players doesn't make much sense, cuz this being December, some of these guys could wind up as 3rd picks by the time the draft comes around. We still got 4 months to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 But the "we should take . . . ." discussions in terms of specific players doesn't make much sense, cuz this being December, some of these guys could wind up as 3rd picks by the time the draft comes around. We still got 4 months to go. So would you like to talk about how we just missed the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Trade up, trade down, stand pat, whatever. I'd like to see "Line" in the position description of our earlier picks. O-Lineman D-Lineman Linebacker. Whoever we have rated the highest at any of these positions when it's our turn is fine by me. It's all a crap shoot anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 So would you like to talk about how we just missed the playoffs? I'm just saying I'm confident all the Mel Kiper's of the board's December draft boards are suspect, at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan190 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 At this point I would want to trade back to 20(lions) get a extra second rounder and do this. 13. 1150 points 80. 190 points 1340 points to Lions for 20. 850 points 33. 580 points 1430 points 20. Everette Brown 33. Alex Mack or Herman Johnson or Sen 'Derrick Marks or Brandon Spikes Probably won't happen but we can dream, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan190 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Either Michael Johnson or trade down and maybe Johnson will be available otherwise either Duke Robinson or Evertte Brown Ur a smart man, check da sig. Everette Brown please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I think we need to draft a young running back or two. And another WR. I'm not impressed with either of the rookies...I think we need to find a rookie who has a mature attitude and is interested in playing at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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