Spartacus87 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 haha, i said we should sign Haynesworth for the last couple of weeks. I think haynesworth would replace the giffin and as the OL. I think Duke Robinson, Mack, Eugene Monroe, Herman Johnson who is 391 and 6,6" 7/8. we could always get cedric dockey...derek's little brother!!!!!!However, i do think we need to draft a defensive lineman like gerald mccory from ok, terrence cody, or B.J. Raji. Fili Mola would be nice pickup from USC also. BJ Raji so far is the best NT prospect in the draft. He's built perfectly as a huge DT for a 4-3 line, who can easily play the run, but can also break through and get to the QB as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I think Heyer is a great pass blocker, but his run blocking certainly needs work. He's definitely a step in the right direction for our O-Line. But there is no need to spend the boat on a RT right now when you haven't seen enough from him. He seems capable and dependable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I'd love to have haynesworth just to see what he does to the complexion of our defense. Our d is among the league's elite as it stands now, and we do that with a terrible pass rush. I would much rather pick up haynesworth and draft an o-lineman than pick up gross and draft a d-lineman. Though, depending on the cost, I may be persuaded to go with the latter. The way I feel about it is this:Our defense, like you said, is already very good at stopping teams. It just doesn't get turnovers or pressure. If we draft a DT, it gives him time to develop and learn the position (which usually is required for d-linemen out of college into the NFL) while hopefully our defense doesn't drop off too much. On offense, we need immediate upgrading at our o-line, which can only really happen with a proven FA lineman. If we draft a lineman, whether it be in the 1st or trade back into the 2nd, it's not a guarantee at all that he'll come out his rookie year and be able to produce the way we need him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HA1LV1CT0RY Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 But there is no need to spend the boat on a RT right now when you haven't seen enough from him. He seems capable and dependable. I agree, I think we may need some inside guys, I'm up in the air about Randy Thomas. We need young guys on the line. The veterans aren't cutting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu7ch Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 haha, i said we should sign Haynesworth for the last couple of weeks. I think haynesworth would replace the giffin and as the OL. I think Duke Robinson, Mack, Eugene Monroe, Herman Johnson who is 391 and 6,6" 7/8. we could always get cedric dockey...derek's little brother!!!!!!However, i do think we need to draft a defensive lineman like gerald mccory from ok, terrence cody, or B.J. Raji. Fili Mola would be nice pickup from USC also. DE: Aaron Maybin DE 6'3" 250 PENN STATE Everette Brown DE 6'4" 252 FLORIDA STATE Brian Orakpo DE 6'3" 255 TEXAS Jerry Hughes DE 6'2" 245 TCU Tyson Jackson DE 6'4" 295 LSU Greg Hardy DE 6'4" 267 MISSISSIPPI Michael Johnson DE 6'7" 259 GEORGIA TECH George Selvie DE 6'3" 240 SOUTH FLORIDA Antonio Coleman DE 6'2" 254 AUBURN Larry English DE 6'2" 246 NORTHERN ILLINOIS Michael Bennett DE 6'3" 265 TEXAS A&M Connor Barwin DE 6'3" 247 CINCINNATI Matthew Shaughnessy DE 6'5" 243 WISCONSIN Cody Brown DE 6'2" 242 CONNECTICUT that is DE, we could get if we had first or second round draft picks!!!! Being a Cincy grad I'd love to see Barwin get drafted by the skins, probably late, but this is his first year as a DE and was a damn good TE for a few years. He could be used in multiple situations. edit: I wouldn't sign Haynesworth...He's just having the typical contract year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasSucks19922010 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Haynesworth is a must. He demands double teams and that push up the middle wont allow qbs to step up. Our secondary is second to none in my opinion. They cover people for 5-6 seconds which is an eternity for other teams. Force the qbs to make a mistake and get a turnover and allow the offense to have a short field. Maybe the offense could score more than 14 points a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantu Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I guarantee if we sign him, he will come here and lay a big fat egg0 Yup. Homeboy plays hard when he has to play for a contract. I'd rather see if we can somehow get another DT, like Tommie Harris, for as cheap as possible. If not, THEN WE SHOULD DO WHAT THIS TOWN, ORGANIZATION, AND FAN BASE IS SCARED OF, and that is not try to fix everything in one season. We, as well as our FO, need to understand that we are not a few pieces away from a title like we think we are every off season. We are a whole FOUNDATION away from a year-in and year-out playoff/superbowl contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I think I'd rather pick up Gross at RT from the Panthers than Haynesworth.It's past time to draft our own d-linemen high. No more free agents. The Giants, Steelers, Eagles, Colts, Bucs, Patriots....all teams with good d-lines that drafted their key guys. And Haynesworth didn't really become dominate until a couple years ago. Until 2007 he was known for not living up to his potential, having questionable character, and a mediocre work ethic and taking some plays off (the whole stomping on Gurode's face incident didn't help either). We need to just start drafting linemen left and right for the next couple years. I am with you here. I believe we only to sign one FA player and that would be Gross. We can draft another OL high in the draft and look at the DL in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins0756 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Normally, I'm that "build through the draft" guy. I'm all for it.However, I've been watching this team all season and I see two glaring needs: 1. Pass rush 2. Offensive line depth I thought we had fixed the pass rush by getting Jason Taylor. I still think he could be effective. But it is obvious that we need a force in the middle. Griffin is no longer that guy. Enter Albert Haynesworth. He's a monster against the run and he's a force against the pass. And he's a free agent with no strings attached. I think that drafting Haynesworth would allow us a little more flexibility in the draft as well. By signing him, we would essentially fix our defensive line. All we would draft defensive linemen for would be depth/future. Furthermore, we could trade back, get an extra Day One pick, and still get some great offensive line guys. Personally, I'd love to see us trade back in to the late 20s and still grab a guy like Alex Mack. Then with an extra third rounder, we could go after a defensive line project player like Kyle Moore from USC. Agreed completely. The man is a head above any other interior defensive lineman in the league and would instantly make that defensive line better. For one he would command double teams and allow JT and Carter to work one on one on third downs. Our linebacking corps is good enough that even when we shut down the rushes up the middle we can still get to the edges and stop guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I think I'm one of the few that doesn't want Albert Haynesworth. Here is a guy that is a career underachiever. Serious character concerns and has already been suspended for stomping a player's face with his cleats. A real Joe Gibbs character guy huh? It boggles my mind how people could complain about Portis speaking his mind then want to sign a guy like this. He's finally playing well now that he wants a fat contract. What happens when he gets it? I'm not saying he won't be dominant wherever he signs, but this is certainly a high-risk high-reward situation. Haynesworth is going to demand a very large salary. There are going to be a lot of teams looking to add him to their roster in 2009. If we're going to be throwing around big FA money, which I don't believe we should, it should be towards the offensive side of the ball. Our defense could still improve, but it is very good as is. I would much rather stand pat in FA other than to fill a few depth roles and focus resources to the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 The more people go nuts for him the less I want him. I like defensive lineman who are hungry and have a big chip on their shoulders. We've tried the defensive linemen who we've given Thanksgiving dinner to too many times. Fat and happy just hasn't been productive enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Acre Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I guarantee if we sign him, he will come here and lay a big fat egg0 That pretty much sums up our FA history, at least as DL goes. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bih Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 no, stay away from him. he will do same thing as all big names that come here, get a big fat paycheck and just plain ol' stop playing. do not even try to bring him here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoleSkin21 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Yeah you are the only one! That's why there have been dozens of new threads regarding him in the last few months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I'd rather pick up gross instead just cause we need him more, but honestly I am tired of being dissappointed over our FA outcomes. Guarantee you if we pick him up he gets injured and sits out half of next season. The redskins and free agency is like blowing your whole paycheck on a high priced hooker. A couple hours of excitement followed by a hollow feeling of disappointment and disgust in the pit of your stomach and the wish you had spent the money on something more practical and long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Chaos47 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 We dont need Gross from Carolina. You give Heyer the job for next year and you sign a new center. You draft Alex Mack or Duke Robinson next year Samuels Reinhart Mack Thomas and Heyer If the Ravens don't or can't resign Jason Brown we'd be stupid not to go after him. He'll only be 26 next year and is one of the best young Centers in the game. Signing him would free us up to sign the best Tackle or Guard available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Anybody noticed he didn't play for the Titans yesterday, and they stay handeled the Steelers. How does that work into the calculation of how great he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I want him! He stamps on Cowboys' heads. Literally. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Anybody noticed he didn't play for the Titans yesterday, and they stay handeled the Steelers.How does that work into the calculation of how great he is? I think the Steelers overlooked the Titans and came out flat. It has nothing to do with how good Haynesworth has been all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 I think I'm one of the few that doesn't want Albert Haynesworth. Here is a guy that is a career underachiever. Serious character concerns and has already been suspended for stomping a player's face with his cleats. A real Joe Gibbs character guy huh? It boggles my mind how people could complain about Portis speaking his mind then want to sign a guy like this.He's finally playing well now that he wants a fat contract. What happens when he gets it? I'm not saying he won't be dominant wherever he signs, but this is certainly a high-risk high-reward situation. Haynesworth is going to demand a very large salary. There are going to be a lot of teams looking to add him to their roster in 2009. If we're going to be throwing around big FA money, which I don't believe we should, it should be towards the offensive side of the ball. Our defense could still improve, but it is very good as is. I would much rather stand pat in FA other than to fill a few depth roles and focus resources to the draft. I see what you're saying, but Haynesworth has not been an underachiever. He was playing like this last year, just decided to stomp a guy's head (ok, not just, but he wasn't playing poorly). My only real concern is that he's more a product of Tenn's system than actually that good. And thats a small concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1N_SKINS Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I'm not convinced. Anyways, how many other teams will want him? His price might be too high for us. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I'm having flashbacks to 10 years ago: "Am I the only one who thinks that Dana Stubblefield is a must?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Chaos47 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I have been saying for a while now that we need to go after Haynesworth, but I'm not so sure anymore. His stats before last year weren't that great. The turnaround could be him looking for a payday. He is only 28, but he's been in the league since 2002.His body will start to break down in the next year or 2, if it already hasn't. Then we'll be stuck with a DT thats hurt all the time just like CGriff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Anybody noticed he didn't play for the Titans yesterday, and they stay handeled the Steelers.How does that work into the calculation of how great he is? They had tough back to back games against Dallas, and an especially draining game at Baltimore, then had to go to Tennessee. Just a bit of a let down for them when going against one of the elite teams in the league.Nothing really on Haynesworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmuss1 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I say bring Haynesworth no matter what!! He instantly makes Carter and Taylor a lot better!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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