TrumanB Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Of the multiple posts in this thread that strain credibility, but this one takes the cake.Do you really think it's the "libs" that are the ones whining right now? Doesn't matter. Perception is all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMURedskins Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 If there is video of McCain using that phrase when talking about something Hillary Clinton related. It should be in Ads starting tonight. Just cut this one off at the pass. All it takes is video of McCain making the comment and video of McCain criticizng Obama for making the comment and a statement about the hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot Point Really Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I'm having a difficult time respecting the opinions of those who can't see how it would be reasonable for some (especially women) to take offense at Obama's statement and also reasonable for them to request an apology for Obama's "poor form". I'm willing to believe it was a gaffe... I don't think he should be given a pass, nor would I want people to give McCain a pass if he made a similarly insensitive gaffe. BTW, it isn't the "expression" that was offensive, it was how it was used within the context of the last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I do not believe Obama was referring to Palin. BUT, she is certainly called "the pitbull in lipstick", so the common tie reflects an unfortunate choice of words. If the roles were reversed to Democrats would seize, just like the "macaca" thing which has been mentioned. There seems to be a double standard here. And that is something even Dem stratigists have aknowledged this was poor choice because the lipstick think now belongs to Palin I think this week is showing us more and more why Obama does not want to do a bunch of one on one townhall meeting with McCain, though he may need to soon if the cash keeps drying up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Obama just called out the McCain campaign on this non issue. Basically said he wasn't apologizing for it since their was nothing wrong with it. Called out McCain for focusing on made up controversies instead of talking about issues actually affecting Americans. I'm willing to believe it was a gaffe... I don't think he should be given a pass, nor would I want people to give McCain a pass if he made a similarly insensitive gaffe. McCain used the same exact phrase while referring to Hillary Clinton's plan. Obama used it while discussing John McCains plan. Why didn't the liberal media jump on McCain for that outrageous form of sexism? =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMK9973 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 All it takes is video of McCain making the comment and video of McCain criticizng Obama for making the comment and a statement about the hypocrisy. There is a video of McCain saying it. Today show showed it this morning. And it should be a ad. But Obama seems to only do 1 ad a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 There is a video of McCain saying it. Today show showed it this morning. And it should be a ad.But Obama seems to only do 1 ad a month. And that's why Obama is stupid. If he really had all this money. He'd had ads on all over the place. Not ones blasting McCain. Just positive upbeat ones talking about the future. Give that a few weeks and see if McCains ads stay negative or.....if that backfires. Otherwise, he's an idiot. Don't even address Palin. She's not the top of the ticket. Don't blast her or give any statements that could be see as blasting her. Make her a non-issue. If they can't do that. Then they deserve to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 You think he regrets opting out of public finance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot Point Really Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Obama just called out the McCain campaign on this non issue. Basically said he wasn't apologizing for it since their was nothing wrong with it. Called out McCain for focusing on made up controversies instead of talking about issues actually affecting Americans.McCain used the same exact phrase while referring to Hillary Clinton's plan. Obama used it while discussing John McCains plan. Why didn't the liberal media jump on McCain for that outrageous form of sexism? =\ Did Hillary use "lipstick" as a famous punch line at a speech watched by 40M people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 It might be too late for that. I dont think they can put the genie back in the bottle (is that sexist?). She's already a rockstar. Clinotn flailed for 3 months once Obamamania took root. Now he's witnessing the same thing. I dont know if there is a way, now, to marginalize her. The debate will be key. Biden needs to beat her up good imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 It might be too late for that. I dont think they can put the genie back in the bottle (is that sexist?).She's already a rockstar. Clinotn flailed for 3 months once Obamamania took root. Now he's witnessing the same thing. I dont know if there is a way, now, to marginalize her. The debate will be key. Biden needs to beat her up good imo. No he doesn't. That's a trap. Biden needs to treat her with almost too much respect. He shouldn't be nasty or anything. If she wants to attack. Let her. Just say you respect her opinion, but don't agree. Let the clips of her seem like that Hockey Mom that melts down where her kid isn't on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Did Hillary use "lipstick" as a famous punch line at a speech watched by 40M people? You got me there. Obama is sexist because he used a common phrase to describe John McCain's plan. Damn her for ever saying the word lipstick. Obama should put that McCain comment in an ad and see how long this controversy lasts. (should have already put it up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 This thread is hilarious. What a bunch of PC whining liars so many have you become. And since when is Palin the only woman in America who wears lipstick? Because she mentioned lipstick all references to it point to her! What an oversensitive bunch of crap! It may work, but I would expect better of most of you. You've lost all semblence of integrity on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 This thread is hilarious. What a bunch of PC whining liars so many have you become. And since when is Palin the only woman in America who wears lipstick? Because she mentioned lipstick all references to it point to her!What an oversensitive bunch of crap! It may work, but I would expect better of most of you. You've lost all semblence of integrity on this one. I for one welcome our conservative brethren to the wonderful whiny world of identity politics and political correctness.Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin ... no matter who wins, you better be careful what you say or you might offend someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Apparently there has been a thread at the DNC website where a a few weeks a go someone said Palin was just a pig with lipstick Link is to worldnetdaily so take it for what it is worth but they do show the blog http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74870 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Meh the McCain campaign needs to quit their ****ing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." H.L. Mencken I like this one too: A supporter once called out, "Governor Stevenson, all thinking people are for you!" And Adlai Stevenson answered, "That's not enough. I need a majority." http://www.npr.org/programs/wesat/000205.stevenson.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Obama should just stay quiet for the rest of the week and let Biden speak and practice what he is going to say next week 2 gaffes in one week is not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Obama should just stay quiet for the rest of the week and let Biden speak and practice what he is going to say next week2 gaffes in one week is not good Come on McCain was using this same expression to describe Hillary's Healthcare plan in 2007. Nobody attacked him for being sexist? McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's health-care plan, he said it was "eerily reminiscent" of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the early 1990s. "I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal. http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po...th_plan_a.html This is a stupid issue for McCain to exploit to keep the election from concentrating on the issues. On the issues, McCain looses this election. So McCain wants to focus on imaginary slights. It's sad this stuff plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Yes. You can.The Daily Kos for example has become a huge influence on the democratic party. Slimebucket operations set the tone for the left wing nutjobs that the democratic party panders to. Officially the party does not talk to or about them but they happily look the other way as websites like the Kos act as attack dogs. The average American does not know about KOS. That is far different then issues such as this thread topic that IS heard by not only nationally, but internationally. I read about this article at an Australian paper's website - I doubt if many Aussies have heard about KOS. Yes, yes - I know: every right-wing person believes that everyone to the left of them visits KOS. Are you still sure, Mad Mike, that you are an "independent"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Obama should just stay quiet for the rest of the week and let Biden speak and practice what he is going to say next week2 gaffes in one week is not good Good thing you're not part of Obama's campaign. Yeah Obama should lay low this week. Cancel his 9/11 apperance at Ground Zero. Not show up to the nationally televised forum tomorrow. Then he'll really look good to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLockesGhost Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 McCain's new ad is just an awful mischaracterization of what Obama said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZd_Y_D-RaA The full context: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_bDX8wv1jk&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Obama knocks press on 'made-up controversy' Speaking at a high school in Norfolk, Obama took a few moments to address what he calls "the made-up controversy" of the day, Amie Parnes reports. Obama said the McCain campaign moved to "seize an innocent remark and take it out of context because they knew it's catnip for the news media." "See, it would be funny, but the news media decided that would be the lead story yesterday. This happens every election cycle. Every four years, this is what we do. This is what they want to spend two of the last 55 days talking about...Enough!" he said. Obama called the attacks "lies, outrage and swift boat politics." "These are serious times and they call for a serious debate...spare me all the phony outrage. Spare me all the phony talk about change," he said. UPDATE: McCain spokesman Brian Rogers responds: “Barack Obama can’t campaign with schoolyard insults and then try to claim outrage at the tone of the campaign. His talk of new politics is as empty as his campaign trail promises, and his record of bucking his party and reaching across the aisle simply doesn’t exist.” http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Obama_knocks_press_on_madeup_controversy.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLockesGhost Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 ^^^^Barack Obama is exactly right. McCain's response is such typical tripe. I've lost all respect for the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsl2 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Come on McCain was using this same expression to describe Hillary's Healthcare plan in 2007. Nobody attacked him for being sexist? This is a stupid issue for McCain to exploit to keep the election from concentrating on the issues. On the issues, McCain looses this election. So McCain wants to focus on imaginary slights. It's sad this stuff plays. Exactly. Thats the reason he picked Palin. Because Obama will kill him on the actual issues. Country First? More like Politics First. I will admit it has given him a bump now, but once Obama wipes the floor with McCain in the debates, this race will come back to Obama/Biden's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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