turbodiesel#44 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I think Wade is done with us.Me too. If you watch Zorns interview from the 27th, he is asked about Wade and didn't seem too hopeful. I can't read Zorn very well yet, but he seemed to dismiss Wade at first, then tempered his tone a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Me too. If you watch Zorns interview from the 27th, he is asked about Wade and didn't seem too hopeful. I can't read Zorn very well yet, but he seemed to dismiss Wade at first, then tempered his tone a little. Yeah I saw that, but what confuses me is that he said, "....a minimum on nine guys are going to make the O line roster." So, I don't know if he's made his mind up yet. Part of me thinks we should hold on to Wade, and part of me doesn't. When in doubt, keep the guy I guess. I'd keep Mason as our 5th Back (including Sellers) if I had to choose between he or Wade though. That kid is something special for the future. That's what I don't want to see happen. I don't want us to chop a guy that is young and talented for an backup old lineman just for security's sake. F' that! Start pushin' the old dudes (at least by football standards ) out the do'. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I think Wade...and later maybe Fabini... are gone. I'd expect us to be shopping the waiver wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dictator Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Wade has been "meh" at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Native,NC_Fan Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Noooo! Todd is my LinkedIn buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I personally would like to see a youth movement here on the OL... We know the starting 5, although I'd argue that Jansen would have it tough to beat out a serious open competition for RT position versus Rinehart OR Heyer either one. But having said that just shows the depth we have at the T position. Heyer and Rinehart both have shown they can play there. So I think that should definitely eliminate Wade. Given the upside and abilities BOTH Crummey and Geisenger have shown as well, I think that also means we could dump Fabini as well. But Fabini is far more valuable to us than Wade regardless of contract situations. He can play both T & G.... But I'd like to see us stay with these 4 kept on the 9 OL depth --> Heyer, Rinehart, Crummey and Geisenger... There you have it young depth to work with, and provide Jansen a Long-Term replacement when and if he does go down or prove costly this season. You pretty much echoed my sentiments. Samuels - Unless he gets a fluke injury is probably good for the season Kendall - Has 1 year left and knee issues hence why Rinehart is ensured to be here. Rabach - Rabach has always been solid Thomas - Weird injury last year, hence why we need Fabini if You ask me, he was much better at Guard then Tackle. Jansen - As much as I think Jansen is washed up, you have to give him at least a year to prove he still has it so in my mind I agree. Samuels Kendall rabach Thomas Jansen Heyer - Backup tackle Fabini - First Backup Guard, due to experience, possibly 2nd at Tackle Rhinehart - Second Backup guard (maybe first, and may beat Kendall out at some piont) that's 8 spots right there. So if you assume they keep at least 9 OL who else would you keep? I'm not sure if Rhinehart can play Samuel's position in a pinch or not as I've not been blessed to see many of the preseason games. Wade isn't a bad backup, but I think he is overpaid for the production and injury situation. I really would rather drop him and keep eithering Geisinger or Crummey. I'm not a huge Fabini Fan, but his experience in that Colts game reminded me how important veteran backups are, and Fabini has plenty of experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordac Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 'bout time. Wade outplayed the expectations from when we got him but he isn't starting material and he isn't getting any younger. I disagree that he's out of the NFL. I think he'll catch on somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Keep Crummey and Geisinger and cut Wade and Fabini. Out with the old in with the new While I agree with the sentiment it would be a very brave/risky move to go with 4 backups with so little starting experience. I would think that Wade is as good as gone but Fabini will stick along with Heyer and Reinhart. That, for me, leaves Crummey and Geisinger battling for one spot. Crummey might have the edge given he can play both guard and centre where Geisinger is strictly a centre. Thinking ahead i would not be surprised if by the end of the year our starting line is Samuels, Reinhart, Rabach, Thomas, Heyer. And not through injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crank Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I think there will be one veteran gone from the o-line so maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Tired old stale subject ... Wade is irrelevant ... let's move on. More interesting question is what grizzly vets the Skins will bottom-feed off the waiver wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Tired old stale subject ... Wade is irrelevant ... let's move on. More interesting question is what grizzly vets the Skins will bottom-feed off the waiver wire. At least one linebacker is my bet and maybe a SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 At least one linebacker is my bet and maybe a SS. I'm not happy with McMullin and/or Thrash ... perhaps a WR. I also think Skins would benefit from having a "big" plunging back a la "George Rogers" or the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I'm not happy with McMullin and/or Thrash ... perhaps a WR. I also think Skins would benefit from having a "big" plunging back a la "George Rogers" or the like. Re the WR most we keep is 6 and Moss ARE, Thomas and Kelly are locks. Thrash is as well not least for his special teams ability. If we keep 6 which is a possibility given the time Kelly has missed in particular, and the coaches are not happy with Mix or McMullen then a vet WR is a possibility. Personally I would be really surprised if one came available who was better than Mix or McMullen. Re the Big back - no chance. Sellers is our big back and in the Zorn system smaller backs like CP are what he needs who can slash and cut back and also ctach the ball in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Keep Crummey and Geisinger and cut Wade and Fabini. Out with the old in with the new This I agree with. Along with Heyer and Rhinehart. That gives you nine OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 If a vet is kept, Fabini has the advantage over Wade because he can play multiple positions and he's been healthy and playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Wade is most likely gone. I think Crummey has the inside track for the 9th spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Keep Crummey and Geisinger and cut Wade and Fabini. Out with the old in with the new You can't cut ALL your veteran depth. You have to keep somebody around that can come in and knows what to do. It wouldn't be smart to keep a bunch of 22/23 year olds with not a lot of playing experience and are still learning as your depth. Heyer would be the most prepared of them, and even he isn't totally ready. However, if the Redskins do decide to cut a veteran OL, it will probably be Wade. He's been hurt pretty much all of training camp and preseason (very slooooooooow to recover from this injury), and hasn't played any. While Fabini has been healthy and playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 neither....Andrew Crummey FTW! pwnage! But seriously, I'd rather have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fourth King Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 our depth is terrible when we are trying to figure out if we should cut wade, fabini, or geisinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Man, our O-line might be our achillies heel once again this year, and thats with a healthy Jansen. :paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 our depth is terrible when we are trying to figure out if we should cut wade, fabini, or geisinger Really disagree with you on that. With Heyer and Reinhart we have two guys who provide excellent depth at tackle and tackle and guard in Rienharts case. Add in Fabini who started almost all last year and was playing well by the end at guard and we are a LOT better of than many teams in the depth stakes. Centre is a bit of a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I am concerned with the whole offensive line this season. I don't know that we can keep Wade either. I am not seeing the "tude" that they had in years past. I haven't seen it from any of the people trying for roster spots either though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4man5282 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I'd have to go with Crummey also. Even though he is a rookie he has more upside than Geisinger. But like someone else said for all you know Fabini could be gone and we could keep Geisinger and Crummey both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Health issues + blocking issues = let's see what someone else can do. ~Bang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Yeah I saw that, but what confuses me is that he said, "....a minimum on nine guys are going to make the O line roster." So, I don't know if he's made his mind up yet. Part of me thinks we should hold on to Wade, and part of me doesn't. When in doubt, keep the guy I guess. I'd keep Mason as our 5th Back (including Sellers) if I had to choose between he or Wade though. That kid is something special for the future. That's what I don't want to see happen. I don't want us to chop a guy that is young and talented for an backup old lineman just for security's sake. F' that! Start pushin' the old dudes (at least by football standards ) out the do'. :2cents:If it turns out to be Wade vs Mason for a roster spot, that would be a tough call. Mason has far more potential, but Wade is somewhat proven and our OL need is far greater IMO. I would probably go with Wade in that situation, or maybe flip a coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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