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[NoCalMike]

Also the whole notion of "Floyd being scared"

Lets look at who Pac has been fighting for the last couple of years. Over the hill has beens and/or guys who all fit into one category as far as style goes. You are kidding yourself if you don't think his opponents haven't been hand picked either.

[Bubble Screen]

Also the whole notion of "Floyd being scared"

Lets look at who Pac has been fighting for the last couple of years. Over the hill has beens and/or guys who all fit into one category as far as style goes. You are kidding yourself if you don't think his opponents haven't been hand picked either.

It seems to most boxing fans out there that he's scared. And there is evidence of it. It's just frustrating. Everyone in the world wants for this fight to happen. Would be one of most anticiapted fights in a long, long time. I just want it to happen. Both sides (especially the FM camp) just need to drop the bull**** and make it happen.

[NoCalMike]

"Pass a drug test" is not bs. If Manny takes the blood test, passes it, then Floyd looks even more like a villain. I don't see a reason why Manny doesn't want to do it, besides a superstition he has brought up in the past. Other then that, just take it, and be done with it.

[Barney B]

Floyd is playing you guys like a drum. What if he or Manny loses? Then what?

If Floyd loses before he fights Manny, he'll be as ungracious in defeat as he is in victory. He'll still be a hated man, and Floyd may well be making sure that people will hate him enough to want to see him lose to Manny.

If Manny loses before they fight, it won't make people like Floyd any more than they already do, and they'll still hope that Manny can beat him, and pay good money to see it.

Say what you will, but dude is scared. The proof is there.

There's no proof that Floyd is scared of Manny, and you're assertion that there is means that you think you know exactly what Floyd is thinking. Not too likely.

And please spare the Ali comparisons. Ali took on all challengers.

And Ali and Floyd probably also drove different colored cars. It has nothing to do with the fact that they both antagonized the public for profit.

And just for the record, as great as Ali was, he still wanted no part of a rematch with Foreman, choosing instead to fight much lesser fighters while Foreman demolished the cream of the heavyweight crop.

---------- Post added September-18th-2011 at 06:38 PM ----------

LOL@ the Mayweather fans. They're always gonna be in denial about Floyd being scared to fight Pac. It's plain to everyone but FM fans, it seems.

It's only plain to people who think Manny would beat Floyd.

Lots of boxing experts think otherwise:

Boxing Experts Pick Mayweather Jr. Over Pacquiao

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/boxing-experts-pick-mayweather-jr-over-pacquiao

Most credible boxing Web sites consist of excellent writers and analysts, and the majority of them agree Mayweather would come out on top. BoxingNewsworld.com polled 25 of the top boxing writers, including scribes from Ring magazine, Doghouse boxing, Eastside Boxing, Fight Beat, Boxing Scene, Ringside Report, and Boxing Talk. Surprisingly, a whopping 23 of the 25 thought Mayweather would win, with just two backing Pacquiao.

...While these writers are well respected, they aren’t in the ring everyday and don’t live and breathe the sport 24 hours a day. Let’s take a look at the opinions of those who are considered "insiders." Trainers Joe Goossen, Ronnie Shields, Buddy McGirt, Robet Garcia, and Yoel Judah all had interesting opinions.

...They’re all good and valued opinions, but let’s hear from some boxers themselves, especially those who have been in the ring with either Pacquiao or Mayweather or both of them.

...Overall, it looks like Mayweather would be favored by most of these experts. Hopefully we’ll get the chance to see who was right and wrong in the near future.

Edited September 18, 2011 by Barney B

[ACW]

"Pass a drug test" is not bs. If Manny takes the blood test, passes it, then Floyd looks even more like a villain. I don't see a reason why Manny doesn't want to do it, besides a superstition he has brought up in the past. Other then that, just take it, and be done with it.

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[RonArtest15]

Post fight presser....PBF brings up some GREAT points...

*Warning* there are a few curse words, so I guess this is NSFW

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I'm not even a Floyd fan, but it seems like a lot of people are letting their emotions/hate get the best of their objectivity. Floyd did NOTHING wrong last night in the way that he KOd Ortiz. If anything, Ortiz was the one fighting dirty. On top of it all, it looked like he gave up and just wanted to collect his check and go home. All that hate towards PBF should be redirected to Ortiz for the act he put on in the ring...

[DM72]

Also the whole notion of "Floyd being scared"

Lets look at who Pac has been fighting for the last couple of years. Over the hill has beens and/or guys who all fit into one category as far as style goes. You are kidding yourself if you don't think his opponents haven't been hand picked either.

He's fought Cotto, Clotty and Margarito. And who exactly has Floyd fought over the past few years?

[ACW]

He's fought Cotto, Clotty and Margarito. And who exactly has Floyd fought over the past few years?

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=352&cat=boxer

JMM, Mosley, Ortiz.

[DM72]

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=352&cat=boxer

JMM, Mosley, Ortiz.

JMM moved up in weight to fight Mayweather and Mayweather still came in too heavy which was a disgrace. Mosley was washed up. Ortiz simply wasn't no threat and Mayweather knew it. I'm no Mayweather fan, but I knew he'd outclass Ortiz.

Edited September 18, 2011 by DM72

[StillUnknown]

before Floyd fights mosely: "floyd's ducking Mosely, he knows Mosely would be his toughest challenge out there"

after floyd embarrasses mosely: "mosley was washed up"

Edited September 19, 2011 by StillUnknown

[da#1skinsfan]

Anything/everything related to floyd is downplayed - too this, too that...every win has an asterisk and a reason as to why he won. But Manny's are all clean. To me it seems you're the type of person who needs an excuse or answer for why the guy is perfect when in reality, he is simply undefeated, period bottom line. It's OK though, there is no convincing you, you've got your opinion, that's fine.

What happens if Marquez beats Manny?

[Chachie]

If anything, Ortiz was the one fighting dirty. On top of it all, it looked like he gave up and just wanted to collect his check and go home. All that hate towards PBF should be redirected to Ortiz for the act he put on in the ring...

I'm surprised more people didn't notice this. Ortiz quit. He wasn't knocked out. He was beaten and scared. I've never seen a fighter that had just lost smile so wide. He thought he'd found a way to lose "controversially" and act all casual. Truth is I saw him lose his composure, then quit.

[StillUnknown]

I'm surprised more people didn't notice this. Ortiz quit. He wasn't knocked out. He was beaten and scared. I've never seen a fighter that had just lost smile so wide. He thought he'd found a way to lose "controversially" and act all casual. Truth is I saw him lose his composure, then quit.

He smiled like that after he quit against Maidana as well.

[Chachie]

He smiled like that after he quit against Maidana as well.

I thought so. Wasn't sure if it was Ortiz or not. Didn't he say something like "I can't let myself get hit like that." (?)

He quits when he's behind.

[DM72]

before Floyd fights mosely: "floyd's ducking Mosely, he knows Mosely would be his toughest challenge out there"

after floyd embarrasses mosely: "mosley was washed up"

I knew he didn't have a chance. Dude was obviously on his last legs leading up to that fight.

EDIT. And for the record, I had no problem with what Floyd did. Ortiz was the dirty fighter.

---------- Post added September-18th-2011 at 07:56 PM ----------

What happens if Marquez beats Manny?

Floyd gets his wish. He will not have to answer anymore Pac questions and he won't have to fight him. And all you Floyd backers will use that as justification that Floyd is the superior fighter.

Edited September 19, 2011 by DM72

[StillUnknown]

Floyd gets his wish. He will not have to answer anymore Pac questions and he won't have to fight him. And all you Floyd backers will use that as justification that Floyd is the superior fighter.

Since their fighting at just about the same weight as Floyd vs. Marquez, it would be a good piece of evidence for those who choose to make those claims.

[DM72]

Since their fighting at just about the same weight as Floyd vs. Marquez, it would be a good piece of evidence for those who choose to make those claims.

OK, then what if Pac dismantle JMM in a few rounds? So far, Pac has looked more dominate in common opponents.

[StillUnknown]

OK, then what if Pac dismantle JMM in a few rounds? So far, Pac has looked more dominate in common opponents.

If Pac gets rid of him in a few rounds, it will confirm that unlike Floyd, Pac's power traveled with him as he's moved up weight. Pac and Floyd are equally dominant, just in much different styles. Floyd frustrates his opponents by not being able to be hit, Pac brutalizes them with power and combinations. Its really only comparable if one loses to a fighter the other has beaten. Floyd didn't lose a round to Marquez despite the long layoff, and he didn't even use "big man tactics". Equal dominance, much different forms.

[da#1skinsfan]

I havent seen many Floyd fans making the claims about Pac that Pac fans say about Floyd.

If Marquez beats Pac, do you then admit you were wrong about Floyd 's selection of fighters and ducking tactics? Thats my question.

[DM72]

I havent seen many Floyd fans making the claims about Pac that Pac fans say about Floyd.

If Marquez beats Pac, do you then admit you were wrong about Floyd 's selection of fighters and ducking tactics? Thats my question.

1. Because they can't.

2. What would a JMM victory have to do with Floyd ducking Pac?

[artmonkforHOF]

"Pass a drug test" is not bs. If Manny takes the blood test, passes it, then Floyd looks even more like a villain. I don't see a reason why Manny doesn't want to do it, besides a superstition he has brought up in the past. Other then that, just take it, and be done with it.

Even if Manny had a full blood transfusion where every blood cell from his body was tested, Money will still make some excuse not to fight him. I can hear Money now "All Manny has to do is take and pass a mamogram and a pap smear and we can fight!"

[Kosher Ham]

Floyd is not afraid of Pac. He is boosting both of their paydays. I do believe that Pac only has a slight chance to beat Money to begin with, I think they both know that.

If anything, Money wins but controversy is looming...guess what... re-match...draw, DQ...controversy...fight 3... Pac wins... both laugh their way to the bank.

[ConcordNCSkinsFan]

As far as Mayweather-Ortiz I had no real issue with Floyd giving him a two piece especially after Ortiz tried to go Junkyard Dog on him. Ortiz had no business in the ring with Floyd anyway. I'm not a Mayweather or Pacquiao fan specifically. I follow Boxing and don't jump on a fighter's badwagon. May and Pac have no one esle to fight except each other and the fact that these guys are still dancing around and not fighting each other after 3 years is pathetic. Floyd is full of crap saying this is all about drug testing. The fact is that he's basically been a Golden Boy Fighter since 2007 and he's only gonna fight other Golden Boy Fighters. Manny being with Top Rank has always been the biggest obstacle to the fight ever happening. Mayweather's not gonna give up the cushy setup he has right now with Golden Boy and HBO. Make a mismatch, promote it like it's the biggest fight of the year, run the 24/7 show before the fight which has become stale, and dictate every term to what Mayweather wants (Drug Testing, Revenue Split, Fighting nowhere except Vegas) Manny's been doing the same thing as well. The last non Top Rank fighter he fought was Hatton in 2008. Bob Arum along with De La Hoya are the top crooks in Boxing right now and he dictates crazy terms for Manny and follows the same promotional HBO blueprint. Arum is a nut so he has shook things up a little bit with having Manny fight in Cowboys stadium and doing the Mosley fight with Showtime. Manny gets a pass with the media because he plays the nice quiet, and humble role. Boxing will still go on regardless of if these two ever meet or not. They are not the be all and end all of the sport no matter what the sheep who make excuses for these guys thinks.

[DM72]

Floyd is not afraid of Pac. He is boosting both of their paydays. I do believe that Pac only has a slight chance to beat Money to begin with, I think they both know that.

Then why hasn't he fought him yet and save the "he's just boosting both their paydays?" Everytime they get into negotiations, there's an excuse. It was said that both fighters would have earned around $50 million to fight. That's not enough for Floyd? I'm not nieve, dude is scared.

[ACW]

http://boxingalongthebeltway.blogspot.com/2011/09/beltway-boxing-fans-time-to-step-up-to.html

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So the following is for all the Beltway Boxing Fans, especially those who always complain that we don't get quality bouts here. We now have a VERY GOOD opportunity to get a quality card in DC. But to seal this deal, the fans have to step up and want the bout!!

Unlike most situations, we are not fighting against areas with casino money. As of yesterday (according to published reports), DC was competing with Detroit, MI and Montreal, CA for the rights to hold this card. So casino money isn't the big issue here.

Also, the DC Boxing and Wrestling Commission is not completely the same as it was back in 2005 when they sanctioned Kevin McBride-Mike Tyson. There is a good mixture of experienced and new folks on the commission that I believe is capable of handling a card of this magnitude.

Most importantly, everyone principally involved in the bout WANTS the bout to be here. Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer has publicly said he would like the bout to be in DC. Khan has said he would not mind fighting in DC since he enjoyed his recent visit to the Nation's Capitol. Obviously, Peterson wants it here.

Schaefer has also said that one, maybe two other Beltway Boxers would be added to the card. Friday night's win by Seth Mitchell would free him up to be on this card. There is also a possibility that Gary Russell, Jr. would be on the card as well.

Those are three guys that many Beltway Boxing Fans would want to see perform in the hometown area. For Russell, it would be his FIRST pro bout at home! So everything seems to be in place for this card to take place in Washington, DC. The rest is up to us--The Beltway Boxing community. Now is not the time to be a naysayer. Let your voice be heard! Golden Boy can be found on Facebook and Twitter at Golden Boy Boxing. Please post (as I have done) saying you want to see Khan-Peterson here in DC!

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Edited September 19, 2011 by ACW