Touchdown Redskins Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 do we even know how much we would have to give up to move up to a top 3 pick? i think it would be far too much.but good list of the solid FAs not mentioned in the article. No, unfortunately we don't. But the thing is, if we use FA well, we can increase the effectiveness of the draft. One of the trades going through my mind (if we got Asomugha and Johnson) is to trade our 1st and 2nd round picks to Miami or New England (I hate the thought of New England getting richer, so I'd rather trade with Miami), for their 1st round pick. I know a lot of people here wouldn't like that, but considering we would have fulfilled two of our huge need positions in FA, we would have the luxury of taking a stud at our biggest need position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchdown Redskins Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Trufant is another interesting player for us. What happens with Springs is likely going to dictate what we do in free agency. Personally, I have a feeling that Springs will be back. There's simply no way Snyder would release him and risk having him improve a division rival that has struggled at the cornerback position opposite of Newman. After Rogers went down, I can't see us cutting Springs. I would hope that he'll restructure, but according to his comments it doesn't look like it. Unfortunately we absolutely need him, and we also need another strong CB, because who knows what Rogers will look like once he comes back. If Springs stays next season, then I guarantee he'll be gone after that, so we'll still need a top flight corner to take over for him (Rogers and Smoot are good, but they're not that good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Jordan Gross please. Make it happen Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 did that article say cromartie is a free agent. I would pay anything to get him. He is the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 i say we sabotage Redskins One to make sure it doesn't get off the ground on March 1st, or whenever Free Agency begins this season. None of those names mentioned I want. We need value players instead of big name players, and find the big name players in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchdown Redskins Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Cromartie isn't a free agent, and I don't think we need an OT in Gross. We have Samuels, Heyer, and Wade. I think that would be enough, unless we can acquire someone who can play both the guard and the tackle spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 considering we are 25 million over the cap, I'm not too sure a spending spree is on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot_luvs_boats Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 considering we are 25 million over the cap, I'm not too sure a spending spree is on the way. Did Dan Snyder's allowance run out? Boo hoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Big name FAs are FAs for a reason. Most likely a big name becomes a FA because he's not worth the price he's asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyConway Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dansby and Asomugha are good options depending on the asking price. People, Free Agency isn't the devil. Our approach has just been off. A young cheap WR wouldn't hurt either. Bryant Johnson would fit that description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMuller7 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Yeah, it's really about time we turn to the draft Yeah but it doesn't hurt to go after one guy or so to help fill a need..... :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanhillbilly Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Since we are 20 Million over the projected cap, which group of happy little elves is going to help with that problems so we can sign one of the above players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot_luvs_boats Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Big name FAs are FAs for a reason. Most likely a big name becomes a FA because he's not worth the price he's asking. And it's taken Dan Snyder how long to figure this out? He's probably going to add 20% to Randel El's contract and offer it to Bernard Berrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFan#1 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Bryant Johnson is a good idea. The offense is what really needs improvement imo, and I hope the Skins draft some quality OLs to go along with addressing their defensive needs. Next year is Campbell's make-or-break year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I don't think theres anything in the world with continuing to deal in FA, as long as that is not the primary means to building your team. I would love for us to take a look at Feneca or Briggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Since we are 20 Million over the projected cap, which group of happy little elves is going to help with that problems so we can sign one of the above players. Thing is that being 20 mill over with nearly 100% of the guys already signed is probably better than being 10 mill under when you've got most guys unsigned including several of your stars. We are likely in a better cap position this year than we were in last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuraitengai Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Thing is that being 20 mill over with nearly 100% of the guys already signed is probably better than being 10 mill under when you've got most guys unsigned including several of your stars. We are likely in a better cap position this year than we were in last year. probably a good point there. and why are people so eager to jump on the bryant johnson bandwagon? are we not going to give mix a shot? he is young and a big receiver. and he has been playing special teams very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondockSkin Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Nnamdi Asomugha and Johnson are our best bets. Neither *should* be bank-breakers, and both address positions of need. Furthermore, both are young and could really blossom. I have no desire to pursue Faneca because I think the market for Guard's was permanently skewed with the Dockery deal (thanks Buffalo). Furthermore he's old. Yeah, we'll get a few good years out of him, but I'd rather build a rookie up under the tutelage of veterans and save some money in the process. I have no desire to pursue Briggs, either. Let H.B. play; I think the kid is going to be a monster. In terms of drafting, we need an impact DE I think, but I don't know about trading up for Chris Long. Yes, he'll probably be a beast, but getting a semi-beast and a quality rookie with our first and second round picks is a better bet for this team. Also, get the Schmitt kid from WVU...just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWCREDSKINS Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Suggs or Allen would be my choice. We gotta get someone who can get to the QB oppiste Andre Carter. We do that our whole secondary will open up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Bob sanders is a great player. I would love to see him in a skins uniform. It will cost a ton of money but that would really make that secondary solid again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondockSkin Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 And if people are really unhappy about Doughty, get Zbikowski to play SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 No, unfortunately we don't. But the thing is, if we use FA well, we can increase the effectiveness of the draft. One of the trades going through my mind (if we got Asomugha and Johnson) is to trade our 1st and 2nd round picks to Miami or New England (I hate the thought of New England getting richer, so I'd rather trade with Miami), for their 1st round pick.I know a lot of people here wouldn't like that, but considering we would have fulfilled two of our huge need positions in FA, we would have the luxury of taking a stud at our biggest need position. I like the guys you mentioned as FA targets, especially Bryant Johnson. His price tag shouldn't be too bad based on his production as the 3 man in AZ. Chris Long is projected to go #2 (updated on December 20th) by http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html. I don't think our 1st and a 2nd would be enough to move into the #2 slot. I think it's going to take our 09 1st along with our 08 1st to do it. If that's the case, 2 1sts is way to much to give up for a DE, especially when we're projected (see link above) to nab another DE, Calais Campbell, with the 19th pick. This team has simply too many needs to be giving away picks, whether it be a 2nd rounder this year or a 1st rounder next year. IMO. If we draft a DL like Campbell or D. Harvey in round 1, we can still come back and get another DL and OL in rounds 2-3. Or two OL in rounds 2-3. If we draft that way we'll be well positioned. I like Long, but we need all our picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 He'll be franchised, otherwise I would definitely NOT stay away from him. Although I'd rather have one of the CBs, and doubt we will go after two guys with huge price tags. Don't get me wrong, Haynesworth is an incredible player, but he is a ticking time bomb who's only holding his temper because he's in a contract year. He is Darryl Gardner II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I'm just not interested in any Free Agent works anymore. We've had quite a few busts. I'm interested to see how the Skins handle the following people after the season ends... Brandon Lloyd Jon Jansen Mark Brunell How we deal with these guys will shape our prospects in the draft. I highly doubt anything will happen to Jansen. But he does get hurt a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dansby and Asomugha are good options depending on the asking price. People, Free Agency isn't the devil. Our approach has just been off. A young cheap WR wouldn't hurt either. Bryant Johnson would fit that description. Actually, I'd say our approach under Gibbs was only off in 2006. Otherwise, we have done quite well in FA, amonst other places. Brandon Lloyd I think it depends on how much cap space we can free up and the willingness to eat his contract. Jon Jansen He reuped last year, so I expect him to stay. Mark Brunell He's gone. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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