Hunter_R Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I chalked it up as a missed FG as soon as I saw them bringing out the kicking team. As did I. Suisham hasn't done anything that I've seen that made me think he was going to hit that. It was a horrid decision, and I was furious the instant I saw the field goal team. It resulted in better field position for the cowboys than if a 4th and 1 was missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Scotch Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I don't think it's a question of "do you think he'd make it" but your team is driving - gaining momentum, and it's 4th and 1 ... YOU GO FOR IT & show your team YOU BELIEVE IN THEM. You settle for the FG, miss it - give the Cowboys great field position and demoralize your offense. GUTLESS call once again by Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goflyhelo Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I thought it was a bad call. We had momentum and we were driving on Dallas. I think we should have gone for it. Suisham longest all year is 47 yards. I totally agree....we were moving the ball. I really felt we should've went for it. I love Coach Gibbs but I thought this was not the right call... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFan_in_TX Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 As did I. Suisham hasn't done anything that I've seen that made me think he was going to hit that. It was a horrid decision, and I was furious the instant I saw the field goal team. It resulted in better field position for the cowboys than if a 4th and 1 was missed. I was watching at a bar with some other Skins fans down here and when the field goal team came out the Dallas fans cheered because we were moving the ball on them and they were scared. Also because they knew he would miss. He was cut from Dallas because he couldn't make the long ones when it counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I don't think it's a question of "do you think he'd make it" but your team is driving - gaining momentum, and it's 4th and 1 ... YOU GO FOR IT & show your team YOU BELIEVE IN THEM.You settle for the FG, miss it - give the Cowboys great field position and demoralize your offense. GUTLESS call once again by Joe. I hate say it...but I agree, 100%....including the "GUTLESS call" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 No way in hell. Suisham is solid inside 40, like every mediocre freaking kicker in the league but there is no way he makes this kick. This came on the heels of the 3rd down and 3 RUNNING play. Campbell was lighting it up and they RUN on third and 3! Horrible coaching decisions, AGAIN, contribute to the loss. 50 yarder, yeah he could have made that. Kind of early to take a chance at missing out on points. We make that kick, and on then last drive we are winning that game with a chip shot FG instead of trying to socre a td. But could've, should've, would've's dont really matter in the W/L column. Still, I I like the call for the FG, since he has been hitting them pretty good lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I thought we should have gone for it. If it were 4th and 5 or something I totally understand the kick, but a 50 yarder on the left hash is a little long for me to pass up 4th and 1. It's a tough call though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJSkins Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 If we had made it on fourth down we would not have had time to kick a field goal at the end of half. In the end it only at most cost us 4 points if we made it and scored touchdown if we made it and kicked a field goal it’s a wash. Also it gave us momentum going into half that would have been on Dallas side. So in the end it did not have much of impact at all. What frustrates me is the continued conservative play especially when we are heavy underdogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I'll admit that I hated that call more than any other call this year. You have to use some cajones against a superior team... and yes (right now) they are superior. Cajones? It does not take cajones to go for it on 4-1 from the 33 that early in the game when your moving the ball like a hot knife thru butter! Had it been late in the game and 3 is all we needed, yes! If we were down and needed to score, maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuji869 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Like most people I thought they should have gone for it but they do not pay me the big $$$ to make those decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Can the mods just merge all these 4 and 1 and 50 yarders threads. Seem like ground hog day and we keep on talking bout the same thing over and over again. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 no .. I was pissed at the 3rd down call... AND FLAT OUT SHOCKED THAT WE DIDN'T OPT TO GO FOR IT .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Can someone answer this? Is it as simple as saying that JG trusted Suisham to make the kick more then he trusted CP and the o-line to pick up 1 yard? A few thoughts ... if he misses the kick, Dallas gets great field position if CP doesn't get the first, Cowboy are on their 30 doesn't CP get paid alot? wouldn't the O feel like their coaches trust them if they went for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieselpower44 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 It's easy to look back on it and say we should have gone for it. What if we went for it and didn't make it, then you lose your chance at points. Gibbs was banking on 3 points there and he should have had them. If that kick was good (and it certainly could have been good) then Gibbs would have had us in a position of only needing a field goal on that last drive and we would have won the game. I don't think that was the momentum change of the game. The momentum changed when we lost the challenge on Rockies interception and Dallas went on a touchdown spree with our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Was hoping but... :no: no, not me. For me it was :doh: 1st down Cowboys. :mad: <----mad at not going for it BTW, I'm not knocking SS for missing it. Believe me, I'm VERY satisfied that he's our FG kicker now. Compared to what we've had since Chip L?... :laugh: no comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinFan81 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Shawn hit a 52 yarder last year so that puts this topic to rest. Last night I saw it different than most I quess, he had the distance but was alittle left of the upright, can't do 50+ humm? On this forum I noticed this coach has no chance to win here. Seen him go for it on 4th and 1 many times and miss and the same on field goals, and gets raked across the coals! No winning here! Wasn't just one thing in this game, it was combination of many mistakes by everyone! If some of you played any organize sports you would understand what the TEAM concept really means. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailskins94 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I was pretty sure he wouldn't make that kick but it was actually pretty damn close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 he was missing everything in practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Yeah, we all wish they would have gone for it on 4th and 1, but they didn't so the argument is moot, the question is our belief in Suisham's ability. He has the leg, without question, his 40 yarders have plenty of room to spare. I think his accuracy starts to wane around 44-45 yards. It's a gamble, but who knows how those three points change the game. Forget about it, let's focus on Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 At the time I expected a miss. Suisham is consistent, but not at 50 yards. In order to consistently hit 50 yarders, you have to have 60 yard range or better, not 52 yard range. The margin of error is so small. Considering how well we were rolling, and then that 3rd and 3 playcall that left us short, I really wanted us to go for that(and usually im always a FG FG FG guy on 4th). You have to know your players and their strengths, weaknesses and capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 No I didn't, and I also felt that you keep the momentum going by calling for a hurry-up and sneak for your 6'4" 230 lb. young QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 If we had made it on fourth down we would not have had time to kick a field goal at the end of half. In the end it only at most cost us 4 points if we made it and scored touchdown if we made it and kicked a field goal it’s a wash. Also it gave us momentum going into half that would have been on Dallas side. So in the end it did not have much of impact at all. What frustrates me is the continued conservative play especially when we are heavy underdogs. Did you forget what Dallas did after getting back the ball on their 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotherz Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 More importantly than absolutely knowing he was going to miss that field goal was also knowing that AFTER he missed it we would give up a touchdown. Like the rest of this team, the only thing Suisham consistently does is play inconsistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJSkins Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Did you forget what Dallas did after getting back the ball on their 40? They scored touchdown which I am confident they would have done no matter what the Skins did. The point is if the Skins went for it and got it they would not have had time for the field goal at the end of the half. You have to subtract out those 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldysknzfn1 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I never for one thousandth of a second thought he would make that FG! I couldn't believe we kicked a FG from that distance. There are very few kickers who can make it that in this league today. SS isn't one of them as we all saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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