Hooper Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 According to some poster over at the Post's Redskins Insider blog, the Skins and Springs are definitely parting ways. According to others on that blog, this poster is never wrong about these kind of things and gets all their info from a very knowledgeable source. Their 100 percent sure Springs is not going to be a Redskin next year. Does Andyman still post here? Maybe he can weigh in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 That would be great. Release him and Brunell and I get some sign that the F.O. has a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Send an email to JLC and ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Great.. and away we go. Paging Andyman... Clean up in aisle 5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 do we take some enormous cap hit if he goes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 That would be great. Release him and Brunell and I get some sign that the F.O. has a clue. I hear you on Brunell but Springs is our best corner. Why should we get rid of him? His contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1njskinsfan Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 dont let the door hit you on the way out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 That would be great. Release him and Brunell and I get some sign that the F.O. has a clue. Springs may be old and battled, but he is still by far the best CB we have on this team. Even at less than a 100%, he was able to blow Carlos away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 That would be great. Release him and Brunell and I get some sign that the F.O. has a clue. Because you think he's too old/injured? If we get Clements, I could see the argument that it's time to get his contract out of the way and let Rogers develop, but what about all of the "Springs to play safety" talk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Because you think he's too old/injured? If we get Clements, I could see the argument that it's time to get his contract out of the way and let Rogers develop, but what about all of the "Springs to play safety" talk? probably more gibbs smoke and mirrors talk. just like when gibbs said he hoped archuleta stayed on the team haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 do we take some enormous cap hit if he goes? His cap number for this year is 7.358 - his total outstanding bonus money of 7.249 = a cap plus of 9k. We would then have to add in the cost of his replacement on the roster, but it is doable. If we make it a June 1st cut then we would actually save about 4 mil this year and and next (guesstimating on those two numbers) Also this takes a contract of 7.484 and 8.484 off the books for an aging player over the next two year. I want to see him back as a SS and corner depth but this may be the best thing for the franchise if we sign Nate Clements and another starting caliber NB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 His cap number for this year is 7.358 - his total outstanding bonus money of 7.249 = a cap plus of 9k.We would then have to add in the cost of his replacement on the roster, but it is doable. If we make it a June 1st cut then we would actually save about 4 mil this year and and next (guesstimating on those two numbers) Also this takes a contract of 7.484 and 8.484 off the books for an aging player over the next two year. I want to see him back as a SS and corner depth but this may be the best thing for the franchise if we sign Nate Clements and another starting caliber NB. Keep in mind, if I'm remembering correctly, we can now do one or two "June 1st" cuts before June 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsngibbs4life Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 hm... interesting. Well, if this is true, then I would imagine the skins already have some corners in mind (not neccesarily Clements) that they want here. They wouldnt cut him unless they were sure they could get someone to replace him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsngibbs4life Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Springs may be old and battled, but he is still by far the best CB we have on this team. Even at less than a 100%, he was able to blow Carlos away. Blow carlos away? Springs has lost a step, and it showed. I remember several times last year reciever was open in the endzone and springs was always a step behind. He doesnt has the same speed anymore, and it is hard for him to keep up with people. Carlos showed some signs of potential last year. What I dont understand is how people can blame our front seven for the cause for Sean Taylors problems, but when it comes to rogers, it is all his fault. Los was matched up with top recievers last year, and somwhat held his own. This is kind of going out on a limb, but I still think Rogers can turn into our #1 corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I hope we don't get rid of Springs because then we need 2 corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Blow carlos away? Springs has lost a step, and it showed. I remember several times last year reciever was open in the endzone and springs was always a step behind. He doesnt has the same speed anymore, and it is hard for him to keep up with people.Carlos showed some signs of potential last year. What I dont understand is how people can blame our front seven for the cause for Sean Taylors problems, but when it comes to rogers, it is all his fault. Los was matched up with top recievers last year, and somwhat held his own. This is kind of going out on a limb, but I still think Rogers can turn into our #1 corner carlos rogers shut down steve smith, he shut down torry holt, and he shut down the saints and won that game for us. he is a good cornerback, and he has the ability to be an elite cornerback. if we had a defensive line, youd see that. he dropped like 8 SURE THING interceptions, and he already said he wants to work with the receivers this off season to work on catching. imagine if he could actually catch? im glad hes always near the ball. he was torched badly twice this year, and thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejay183 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Blow carlos away? Springs has lost a step, and it showed. I remember several times last year reciever was open in the endzone and springs was always a step behind. He doesnt has the same speed anymore, and it is hard for him to keep up with people.Carlos showed some signs of potential last year. What I dont understand is how people can blame our front seven for the cause for Sean Taylors problems, but when it comes to rogers, it is all his fault. Los was matched up with top recievers last year, and somwhat held his own. This is kind of going out on a limb, but I still think Rogers can turn into our #1 corner because some people are idiots that repeat what someone else wrote. Carlos will be fine, sure he needs to work on catching the ball but he is great against the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 If we let Springs go, we better sign Nate Clements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I'm not a big fan of Springs lately.. His attitude towards the team stinks.. This won't break my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 because some people are idiots that repeat what someone else wrote. Carlos will be fine, sure he needs to work on catching the ball but he is great against the run. Main reason why I don't post much in the stadium anymore.. Parroting moron's who have no real clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan81 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Springs is fine. I hope we don't get rid of him. I wouldn't blame him for the defensive woes last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Because carrying Springs and Brunell for one more year and THEN cutting them would cost over 7.5 mil in dead money in 08. Restructuring them probably ups that cost to over 11 mil. That's about 10% of our cap for next year gone so that we can hold onto two aging, fading players who can't stay healthy. Or, the restructures could make the team decide that, so long as the two can still walk upright, they might as well hold onto them for even another year, at a cost of probably 17 mil or so, plus still some dead money in 09. And, with all that, you still have to sign a CB capable of starting because you just can't plan around Springs. And it raises the strong possibility that we go into 08 with a young Campbell backed by two new QBs rather than at least one who had 07 to learn the system and get used to his team. Bottom line: A front office that isn't doing things based mostly on wish-casting ("Hey! Maybe Springs and Brunell can stay healthy this year! Maybe Springs turns into a Pro Bowl Safety! Maybe Brunell returns to 2000 form and takes us to the Super Bowl!") and extreme short-sightedness ("We can re-structure them and save a few mil in cap space now. What? 2008? Why worry about that? That's like ten years away, isn't it?") would bite the bullet and get rid of them now, find their replacements and actually plan for a future that's more than 10 months away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Keep in mind, if I'm remembering correctly, we can now do one or two "June 1st" cuts before June 1st. Very true, as of the new CBA two cuts can be made at the start of FA and designated as June 1st cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I hope it's not true. Springs had a tough year with injuries, and the D itself took several blows to its pride and their collective chins. The grumpiness I imagine has a lot to do with expecting to be a Superbowl contender and then winding up contending for the number one pick in the draft. It's quite a discouraging fall. For fans it hurt, for some players I bet it hurt even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Maybe we can get someone who isnt injured all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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