IS guhn RAIN Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 well silva vs shogun might happen now...machida definately didnt attack enough at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Total rob job. No way Machida won that fight. Not on any planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IS guhn RAIN Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 that is ridiculous....machida never should have won...shogun got ripped off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) wow i disagree with that one robbery i say Shogun won that fight Edited October 25, 2009 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacky McSlackAss Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) Are you ****ing me? Talk about a fixed fight. Edited October 25, 2009 by Slacky McSlackAss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjcdaman Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Fixed fights aren't only in boxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 bull**** in the highest of orders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Dana White has got some 'splaining to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Dana White has got some 'splaining to do. *dana white* this is why i tell fighters not to leave it in the hands of the judges *dana white* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTmike Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Unbelievable. Shogun clearly beat him I don't know what the judges saw to render that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 You have to BEAT the champion to be the champion. Despite Joe Rogan's fanboy act... and in his post fight interview proving me correct on that... Shogan landed nothing of power outside of leg kicks in round one and two. Machida landed hard knees in both rounds. Machida won the 3rd outright. 4 and 5 went to shogun IMO. But the close rounds one and two will always go tot he champ... especially when he is the ONLY fighter that landed anything that was actually dangerous. Leg kicks should NEVER earn you a belt... and it didn't. Wish these judges were around when Forrest was given Rampage's belt wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 You have to BEAT the champion to be the champion. Despite Joe Rogan's fanboy act... and in his post fight interview proving me correct on that... Shogan landed nothing of power outside of leg kicks in round one and two. Machida landed hard knees in both rounds. Machida won the 3rd outright. 4 and 5 went to shogun IMO. But the close rounds one and two will always go tot he champ... especially when he is the ONLY fighter that landed anything that was actually dangerous. Leg kicks should NEVER earn you a belt... and it didn't. Wish these judges were around when Forrest was given Rampage's belt wrongly. did you not see how red Machida's midsection was. Shogun completely took away machida's legs by the legkicking him to death. those were power strikes. its why Lyoto couldn't move like we're used to seeing in the later rounds Shogun clearly won that fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I thought this is why I started watchin UFC instead of boxing - WTF was that all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) did you not see how red Machida's midsection was. Shogun completely took away machida's legs by the legkicking him to death. those were power strikes. its why Lyoto couldn't move like we're used to seeing in the later rounds Shogun clearly won that fight Both had red midsection... one fighter had a swollen eye? Your point? Like I said Shogun landed counter kicks but mostly leg kicks, Machida stuffed knees down the pipe several times in the first 2 rounds... and I might add, stuffed multiple take down attempts. Machida looked bad but in a close fight like that where only one fighter landed anything of consequence in the first two rounds the champ is going to get the benefit of the doubt (as it should be). Edited October 25, 2009 by Destino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTmike Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 You have to BEAT the champion to be the champion. Despite Joe Rogan's fanboy act... and in his post fight interview proving me correct on that... Shogan landed nothing of power outside of leg kicks in round one and two. Machida landed hard knees in both rounds. Machida won the 3rd outright. 4 and 5 went to shogun IMO. But the close rounds one and two will always go tot he champ... especially when he is the ONLY fighter that landed anything that was actually dangerous. Leg kicks should NEVER earn you a belt... and it didn't. Wish these judges were around when Forrest was given Rampage's belt wrongly. :doh: Shogun was pushing the action the entire fight, landing vicious kicks on Machida, and clearly won at the very least 3 of those 5 rounds (1, 4, 5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Scored the fight 50-45 to Shogun, worst decision in MMA history. Expect to hear about this for the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTmike Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I thought this is why I started watchin UFC instead of boxing - WTF was that all about? I thoroughly enjoyed the fight. You saw two completely different styles going at it and two of the best in their respective areas. Go watch "pro"-wrestling if you want cheap entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I mean **** . . . even ESPN had it on their page early before the bull**** decision. [ATTACH]42138[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I thoroughly enjoyed the fight. You saw two completely different styles going at it and two of the best in their respective areas.Go watch "pro"-wrestling if you want cheap entertainment. I enjoyed the hell out of the fight - it was awesome and I liked the styles. The decision was possibly a bigger robbery than anything I've ever seen in boxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacky McSlackAss Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I've been talking with SkinsOrlando about the fight, and we both came to the conclusion that it was obvious both fighters overstrategized for this fight and veered too far away from their natural styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Both had red midsection... one fighter had a swollen eye? Your point?Like I said Shogun landed counter kicks but mostly leg kicks, Machida stuffed knees down the pipe several times in the first 2 rounds... and I might add, stuffed multiple take down attempts. Machida looked bad but in a close fight like that where only one fighter landed anything of consequence in the first two rounds the champ is going to get the benefit of the doubt (as it should be). you are discounting the effects of legkick shogun came in and executed a perfect gameplan against a man some (myself included) saw as untouchable instead of being rewarded for winning the fight as damn near everyone thinks he did, he's screwed out of a decision i dont see how you (in the general sense) can find 3 rounds that Machida won in that fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 :doh:Shogun was pushing the action the entire fight, landing vicious kicks on Machida, and clearly won at the very least 3 of those 5 rounds (1, 4, 5). I didn't see "vicious kicks" I saw counter kicks mostly to the legs, none of which put Machida in any really danger at all. As for "pushing the action" what you say is stylistic differences. Machida has never "pushed the action" he is by definition a perimeter counter puncher. Shogun is a Muay Tai fighter fighting inside out. Did you at any point in the fight see Machida close to taking any damage that looked like it could stop the fight? I saw Shogun twice HOLD ON to Machida after taking a massive knee... and it was obvious that all he was doing was holding on as we all know how ground game is good and none of those desperation "attempts" did anything but keep him from falling down while he caught his breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) you are discounting the effects of legkickshogun came in and executed a perfect gameplan against a man some (myself included) saw as untouchable instead of being rewarded for winning the fight as damn near everyone thinks he did, he's screwed out of a decision i dont see how you (in the general sense) can find 3 rounds that Machida won in that fight The value of leg kicks is to slow someone down. He accomplished that... and what did he do with it? The answer is nothing at all. The knees Machida landed in rounds 1 and 2 gave him the fight along with stuffing every take down effect completely. Edited October 25, 2009 by Destino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTmike Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I enjoyed the hell out of the fight - it was awesome and I liked the styles.The decision was possibly a bigger robbery than anything I've ever seen in boxing. Thanks for clearing that up. I thought you were among the wine and cheese L.A. crowd who took time out of their tanning beds to go see some entertainment. I think during every fight I heard some kind of "boo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 The saddest part of all this is that whoever supports Machida from here on in will be attacked because of this fight. Machida lost, he got beat up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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