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That's what I'm getting at, Alves may have heavy hands and striking may be his strength, but GSP's standup is more technical and he's too well rounded to go down to a one-dimensional fighter...but he can always get caught, ala the first Serra bout.

Alves isn't one dimensional. he has black belt in bjj. he just prefers to KO people, as opposed to submitting them.

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Alright, **** the quote feature, far too difficult at this point. :laugh:

Silva ALSO defended his belt against Hendo. That being said, he knows there is nobody left in the division right now. What's wrong with moving up in weight and fighting new and, presumably, better competition? The last thing we need is MMA to become stagnant like boxing with champions reigning for years on end with no real competition based on their respective weight divisions. Seriously, how many more times does one guy have to destroy the competition?

In BJ's case, he left the LW division a long time ago, only to come back to it. I don't understand why there is an anchor on him to stay at LW. If there was a ton of competition for him, similar to LHW or WW divisions, I'd understand. I don't need to watch BJ knockout "the fight finisher"....Though I have to admit, I might find it mildly amusing. ;)

As for sig bets; How about this? We'll do a double bet. If BJ loses AND GSP wins, you give me a sig. But, if BJ wins AND GSP loses, I give you a sig. Of course, if the two favorites win their respective fights, this whole thing is pointless, and we let someone in this thread give us each a sig for making one of the most retarded sig bets in history? :silly:

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Alright, **** the quote feature, far too difficult at this point. :laugh:

Silva ALSO defended his belt against Hendo. That being said, he knows there is nobody left in the division right now. What's wrong with moving up in weight and fighting new and, presumably, better competition? The last thing we need is MMA to become stagnant like boxing with champions reigning for years on end with no real competition based on their respective weight divisions. Seriously, how many more times does one guy have to destroy the competition?

In BJ's case, he left the LW division a long time ago, only to come back to it. I don't understand why there is an anchor on him to stay at LW. If there was a ton of competition for him, similar to LHW or WW divisions, I'd understand. I don't need to watch BJ knockout "the fight finisher"....Though I have to admit, I might find it mildly amusing. ;)

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this, you think BJ should be moving up to WW already and I think he should stay and defend his belt in the LW division for a few more fights.

As for sig bets; How about this? We'll do a double bet. If BJ loses AND GSP wins, you give me a sig. But, if BJ wins AND GSP loses, I give you a sig. Of course, if the two favorites win their respective fights, this whole thing is pointless, and we let someone in this thread give us each a sig for making one of the most retarded sig bets in history? :silly:

Deal Howie! :)

Are we just doing their next fights then? GSP/Fitch and BJ/(next opponent)?

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We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this, you think BJ should be moving up to WW already and I think he should stay and defend his belt in the LW division for a few more fights.

Deal Howie! :)

Are we just doing their next fights then? GSP/Fitch and BJ/(next opponent)?

Sure, why not. I mean, this is the most retarded bet of all time, so what's the point of knowing all the participants? Although, I have to admit, I see Fitch as more of an obstacle for GSP than I do Alves. Your choice on that one, as I was speaking solely about GSP/Alves, but if you're down, so am I!

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Sure, why not. I mean, this is the most retarded bet of all time, so what's the point of knowing all the participants? Although, I have to admit, I see Fitch as more of an obstacle for GSP than I do Alves. Your choice on that one, as I was speaking solely about GSP/Alves, but if you're down, so am I!

Yeah it is a pretty retarded sig bet....that just means we need extra retarded sigs for the bet too :laugh:

Better wait on GSP/Alves to materialize....Fitch will be his toughest test in a LONG time. :cheers:

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Lorenzo Frettita has left the casino biz to focus on making the UFC global. Article on sherdog.

Dana this today may be the biggest day in UFC history. Not sure if he means he has another announcement, and/or the craziness that is suppose to happen on TUF.

If yo know what happens on TUF please give a spoiler warning.

thanks.

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Lorenzo Frettita has left the casino biz to focus on making the UFC global. Article on sherdog.

Dana this today may be the biggest day in UFC history. Not sure if he means he has another announcement, and/or the craziness that is suppose to happen on TUF.

If yo know what happens on TUF please give a spoiler warning.

thanks.

***SPOILER***

8 Guys, 1 Cup

You're welcome. :)

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Alves isn't one dimensional. he has black belt in bjj. he just prefers to KO people, as opposed to submitting them.

Thank you. All of the Alves bashing was annoying me. BJJ is American Top Team's bread & butter.

For those of you who don't know:

Everyone credits Helio Gracie as the father of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, he actually learned from his older brother, Carlos. Helio was really young when Konde Koma came from Japan to Brazil and taught Carlos. Carlos had a son named Carlson. Carlson's best student was Ricardo Liborio. Liborio co-founded Brazilian Top Team and went on to co-found American Top Team when he came to the states. I've rolled with him and I can tell you even in his 40's his still a beast. None of his pro fighters can pass his guard.

Also, having a black belt in BJJ is not like having a a black belt in Karate or Tae Kwon Do. You don't learn some moves, get a new belt, learn more moves, get another belt, etc.

You learn all of the moves up front, all of the positions, all of the submissions, etc. You "roll" (ground sparring, no striking) every class. When you can start hanging with and sometimes tap people one belt higher than you, you are promoted. It is not uncommon for someone to be a white belt 1-2 years before being promoted to blue belt and it is also not uncommon for someone to take approx. 10 years to earn a BJJ black belt.

Now if anyone else wants to trash Alves or any other member of ATT, I will come through your monitor, kick you in the leg, take you down, G n' P you 'til you give up your back, sink my hooks in, and RNC you.

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Dana this today may be the biggest day in UFC history. Not sure if he means he has another announcement, and/or the craziness that is suppose to happen on TUF.

I'm sorry, I didn't give the spoiler warning when I posted about TUF a few pages back. I hope I didn't ruin it for anyone...:doh1: Sorry.

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I'm sorry, I didn't give the spoiler warning when I posted about TUF a few pages back. I hope I didn't ruin it for anyone...:doh1: Sorry.

You kind of did. I've been trying to forget what you posted all week. Still wish I hadn't read it, but oh well.

I thought you posted that Tim was going to win so I kept expecting him to catch CB until half way through the third when knew he was done.

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You kind of did. I've been trying to forget what you posted all week. Still wish I hadn't read it, but oh well.

I thought you posted that Tim was going to win so I kept expecting him to catch CB until half way through the third when knew he was done.

I'm sorry Sebowski. Next time I'll make sure I post a spoiler warning if I have any inside info. :)

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According to this, Big Nog's assistant coaches on the next TUF will be Machida and Anderson Silva!

Nobody's going to want to fight on Frank Mir's team:laugh:

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/77312/Antonio-Rodrigo-Nogueira-Announces-Coaches-For-Ultimate-Fighter.htm

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Announces Coaches For Ultimate Fighter

According to Tatame.com, interim UFC heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira has announced his assistant coaches for the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter season 8. Nogueira has hired current UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva and top UFC light heavyweight contender Lyoto Machida to assist him on the show.

Frank Mir announced a few days ago that his assistant coaches will be Rafael Alejarra & Robert Drysdale.

Credit: Tatame.com

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According to this, Big Nog's assistant coaches on the next TUF will be Machida and Anderson Silva!

Nobody's going to want to fight on Frank Mir's team:laugh:

That's awesome, but isn't Anderson's english terrible? That could lead to some interesting coaching.

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That's awesome, but isn't Anderson's english terrible? That could lead to some interesting coaching.

Yeah I don't think his English is great but Nog's is pretty good...I'm not too sure about Machida's either...but either way that's a hell of a coaching team to be on.

Now if anyone else wants to trash Alves or any other member of ATT, I will come through your monitor, kick you in the leg, take you down, G n' P you 'til you give up your back, sink my hooks in, and RNC you.

Umm yeah....the Sherdog forums are here:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/

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Thank you. All of the Alves bashing was annoying me. BJJ is American Top Team's bread & butter.

For those of you who don't know:

Everyone credits Helio Gracie as the father of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, he actually learned from his older brother, Carlos. Helio was really young when Konde Koma came from Japan to Brazil and taught Carlos. Carlos had a son named Carlson. Carlson's best student was Ricardo Liborio. Liborio co-founded Brazilian Top Team and went on to co-found American Top Team when he came to the states. I've rolled with him and I can tell you even in his 40's his still a beast. None of his pro fighters can pass his guard.

Also, having a black belt in BJJ is not like having a a black belt in Karate or Tae Kwon Do. You don't learn some moves, get a new belt, learn more moves, get another belt, etc.

You learn all of the moves up front, all of the positions, all of the submissions, etc. You "roll" (ground sparring, no striking) every class. When you can start hanging with and sometimes tap people one belt higher than you, you are promoted. It is not uncommon for someone to be a white belt 1-2 years before being promoted to blue belt and it is also not uncommon for someone to take approx. 10 years to earn a BJJ black belt.

Now if anyone else wants to trash Alves or any other member of ATT, I will come through your monitor, kick you in the leg, take you down, G n' P you 'til you give up your back, sink my hooks in, and RNC you.

So do they teach you how to lay off the donuts and make weight at American Top Team? Or perhaps their version of "roll" includes more than just grappling?

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So do they teach you how to lay off the donuts and make weight at American Top Team? Or perhaps their version of "roll" includes more than just grappling?

Rolling is grappling and it's all you do in pure BJJ training which is how you get a BJJ black belt. BJJ and MMA are 2 different things. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

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Rolling is grappling and it's all you do in pure BJJ training which is how you get a BJJ black belt. BJJ and MMA are 2 different things. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

:( I think you might want to read my post again....Or not.

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Now if anyone else wants to trash Alves or any other member of ATT, I will come through your monitor, kick you in the leg, take you down, G n' P you 'til you give up your back, sink my hooks in, and RNC you.

American Top Team teaches cyber-travel? What belt comes with that? :)

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