Anything MMA, except thumb wrestling

[BigMike619]

So last night they had the Silva/Franklin rematch and as much as I wanted to hate Silva he is such a classy polite guy that it was impossible to not.

Plus he is an animal.

Also from TUF I have noticed that when the guys are actually fighting that you cant really hear Rampage too well and he isnt saying much. Thats kind of shocking considering out of the ring you cant get him to shut up!!

[StillUnknown]

So last night they had the Silva/Franklin rematch and as much as I wanted to hate Silva he is such a classy polite guy that it was impossible to not.

i watched it as well and noticed in the 2nd round as they are in the clinch, right before Silva lands a high knee, he said something to Franklin.

any ideas of what he said?

[BigMike619]

i watched it as well and noticed in the 2nd round as they are in the clinch, right before Silva lands a high knee, he said something to Franklin.

any ideas of what he said?

good night sweetheart?

Rich was like a scared rabbit in there. From about 1:30 at the end of round 1 he was looking at the clock just trying to survive.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

i watched it as well and noticed in the 2nd round as they are in the clinch, right before Silva lands a high knee, he said something to Franklin.

any ideas of what he said?

He said, "hope you enjoy nose reconstruction."

[StillUnknown]

good night sweetheart?

Rich was like a scared rabbit in there. From about 1:30 at the end of round 1 he was looking at the clock just trying to survive.

his fear started directly after A.Silva beat Nate Marquardt and Rich knew he would have to face him again. here is rich post-A.Silva/Marquardt:laugh: :

[#98QBKiller]

So from TUF last night they had a middleweight fighting a Welterweight...I thought they had to be in the same weight class unless it was down to the elimination tournament?

[PleaseBlitz]

I'm not sure where to find a list of bars showing the PPV, what city will you be in?

I'm going to be out of town too in Charlotte, NC so I'm just going to refrain from ES/MMA sites until Monday when I can watch the fight online.

Morgantown WV.

[Chachie]

his fear started directly after A.Silva beat Nate Marquardt and Rich knew he would have to face him again. here is rich post-A.Silva/Marquardt:laugh: :

Absolutely and I remember noticing that as well. In that moment, Rich is saying, "Damn. My career is over."

I mentioned this vaguely already in this thread, but I'll go ahead and be clear about it now- Franklin is all class and heart, but he's done. Silva broke him and I think Lutter (who's not nearly as good as pre-Silva Rich) will beat him.

[StillUnknown]

weigh-ins are at 4pm(est) and will carried on several different sport sites. yahoo's stream of the weigh-in's has always worked pretty good for me in the past

i'll drop my picks (that are sure to go wrong) after the weigh-ins

[Winning Season Please!]

So from TUF last night they had a middleweight fighting a Welterweight...I thought they had to be in the same weight class unless it was down to the elimination tournament?

I thought they were all middleweights. :whoknows:

[StillUnknown]

Mac Danzig vs. Mark Bocek: Bocek will put up a decent fight, but Danzig gets the sub in the 2nd round

Danzig by Submission, 2nd round

Michael Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy: McCarthy will gas as this gets out the first round and will be stopped in the 2nd

Bisping by TKO, 2nd Round

Nate Quarry vs. Kalib Starnes: why is this fight on the main card?

Starnes by Unanimous Decision

Rich Franklin vs. Travis Lutter: Franklin will try to keep this fight standing, Lutter will do nothing but look for the takedown. a potentially boring fight, hope i'm wrong though. Lutter can take a shot, so i don't think Franklin will KO him standing, and if it goes to the ground, Franklin would be in more trouble than Lutter.

Franklin by unanimous decision

Matt Serra vs. Georges St. Pierre: Serra will come out look to strike quick, GSP will look for the takedown early i believe. Serra has great BJJ, so GSP will have to be aware of that. i think it will be a good fight, but ultimately GSP wil land something that will stop Serra

GSP by TKO, 1st Round

[SkinsOrlando]

I agree with your picks abover except Serra TKO's GSP 4 minutes into the 2nd round.

[StillUnknown]

I agree with your picks abover except Serra TKO's GSP 4 minutes into the 2nd round.

truth be told, i actually want Serra to win again, but i just don't see it happening. i like GSP, but i would love to see the look on all those people there if their boy got beat in front of their faces :laugh:

[Chachie]

My new method has been to not see the weigh-in, ignore all MMA hype sites, and pick with reckless abandon. I've had a much better '08 than I did an '07, so here goes...

Herman vs Maia- Loves me some Ed Herman despite his blockheaded demeanor. Don't think I've seen Maia which doesn't mean I should ignore him but I gotta go with the stooge. Herman by G&P but not before almost getting submitted early.

Stout vs Clementi- Sammy KOs Rich.

MacDonald vs Doerksen- Is Joe a TUF fighter? Who cares. McDonald subs him.

Danzig vs Bocek- Mac by decision.

Bisping vs Mcarthy- The Count by decision.

Starnes vs Quarry- So hard to pick this one but I have to go with Quarry's toughness over Starnes' talent. I like both fighters a lot though. I think I'm actually rooting for Kaleb.

Franklin vs Lutter- I've already gone out on a limb and called Franklin a broken fighter. What a classy guy, what a good man for this sport but he cracks tonight and loses by rear naked choke to Travis, whom I haven't been impressed by yet. (Go Rich. I love ya man.)

The Main Event- Matt "the Terra" Serra defends his belt vs George St. Pierre-

I have a sig bet with SkinsOrlando on this one and I've got St. Pierre. Orlando wants to slap a sig on me pretty badly so I hope Matt's heavy hands and bullish groundwork don't make lightning strike twice in the octagon.

GSP by KTFO.

[Sebowski]

I really want to pick Serra. He completely destroyed St. Pierre last time. I don't know why it would be much different this time.

But I don't have the balls to pick Serra.

GSP by GNP.

I'm rooting for Serra though because it would be much more interesting.

The rest of the card kind of sucks. I have all the favorites winning on the main card except I have Starnes over Quarry. I am surprised Starnes is the underdog.

[BigMike619]

Just the fact that Serra has been out for a year with a back injury (serious one too) makes it so I cant pick him. GSP has been fighting and has been putting away quality fighters.

Mac

Bisping

Quarry

Franklin

[ZoEd]

I really want to pick Serra. He completely destroyed St. Pierre last time. I don't know why it would be much different this time.

But I don't have the balls to pick Serra.

GSP by GNP.

I'm rooting for Serra though because it would be much more interesting.

The rest of the card kind of sucks. I have all the favorites winning on the main card except I have Starnes over Quarry. I am surprised Starnes is the underdog.

Don't worry it will definitely be different. Did you see the way GSP threw Hughes all over the ring? GSP's game is on a totally different level now. Say what you want about Hughes but no one has ever out wrestled him in the octagon and GSP handed him that ass.

I hope GSP doesn't end it quick, I want to see Serra get beat up real bad. Maybe then he'll shut his ****y mouth. He wants to talk about people having class when he's one of the most classless douchebags in the UFC. Not to mention he's a NY fan. GSP by total ass whooping, Serra won't know what hit him.

Lutter will own Rich Franklin. Don't know how anyone who's watched this guy fight could ever doubt him. Arguably one of the most dangerous sub guys in the game and his patience is scary. He was gassed by trying to lose the extra two pounds against Silva and almost beat him. Almost beat who everyone considers the PFP fighter in the world of MMA. Makes you think what if. Lutter should never be taken lightly.

[Sebowski]

Lutter will own Rich Franklin. Don't know how anyone who's watched this guy fight could ever doubt him. Arguably one of the most dangerous sub guys in the game and his patience is scary. He was gassed by trying to lose the extra two pounds against Silva and almost beat him. Almost beat who everyone considers the PFP fighter in the world of MMA. Makes you think what if. Lutter should never be taken lightly.

He may have been gassed, but Silva was on one leg. He fought through a bad knee injury to SUB Lutter.

And gassing because you cut too much weight is not a credible excuse in my book. It just means you are trying to cheat the system and you should fight a weight class higher.

[StillUnknown]

He may have been gassed, but Silva was on one leg. He fought through a bad knee injury to SUB Lutter.

And gassing because you cut too much weight is not a credible excuse in my book. It just means you are trying to cheat the system and you should fight a weight class higher.

A.Silva said in an interview, he didn't fight Lutter's takedowns because he wanted submit Lutter, since Lutter submitted his teammate Pele a while back.

i agree about gassing due to cutting weight. Lutter was on TUF and made weight everytime at middleweight. its not like he never had to get to 185 before.

[ZoEd]

He may have been gassed, but Silva was on one leg. He fought through a bad knee injury to SUB Lutter.

And gassing because you cut too much weight is not a credible excuse in my book. It just means you are trying to cheat the system and you should fight a weight class higher.

Then 99% of the fighters in the game are trying to cheat the system. Sorry, make that 99.5% of the fighters.

As for Lutter, he's been wrestling since he was a kid and until the Silva fight he'd never not made weight. He went to camp here in Vegas at 208 and thought he wouldn't have a problem dropping the weight but stopped sweating two hours before weigh in, 4 hours later he had lost 1/2 a pound after sitting in the sauna and doing everything he could to drop the weight. It just didn't happen. I don't care what you say about Silva wanting to submit Travis, no one has handled Anderson the way Lutter did. Lutter got tired and made a mistake, letting Anderson get those long legs around his neck. I doubt that would happen again.

Hell, even Henderson worked Silva on the ground then came out the second round and totally abandoned his ground game. You guys swing from Silva's tip like he's the second coming of Christ. The dude isn't invincible. Lutter when he's on his game is one of the best fighters in the game. Opinions are like ass holes, you've got yours and I've got mine. I just don't have the uber man crush on Silva like most in this thread have. He's good, but PFP best? I think Machida would hand him his ass at 185.

[Sebowski]

Then 99% of the fighters in the game are trying to cheat the system. Sorry, make that 99.5% of the fighters.

As for Lutter, he's been wrestling since he was a kid and until the Silva fight he'd never not made weight. He went to camp here in Vegas at 208 and thought he wouldn't have a problem dropping the weight but stopped sweating two hours before weigh in, 4 hours later he had lost 1/2 a pound after sitting in the sauna and doing everything he could to drop the weight. It just didn't happen.

Sounds like he should be fighting at 205 or quit ****ing about it. Maybe go to camp at 200. He wanted to be bigger than Silva. He made a mistake. Gassing was his consequence.

You are still discounting Silva's knee injury too.

Lutter is a bum and Franklin will prove it tonight.

You just like him because he is from Dallas and probably a Cowboys fan

:jk: (cheap pop)

[ZoEd]

Sounds like he should be fighting at 205 or quit ****ing about it. Maybe go to camp at 200. He wanted to be bigger than Silva. He made a mistake. Gassing was his consequence.

You are still discounting Silva's knee injury too.

Lutter is a bum and Franklin will prove it tonight.

You just like him because he is from Dallas and probably a Cowboys fan

:jk: (cheap pop)

Silva walks around at 200 from what I hear, guess he's working the system too.

As for Silva's knee injury, find it funny how someone always ends up with an injury when they're getting worked. Keep sleeping on Travis, we'll see tonight who's a bum.

Dallas fan? Let's hope not. :doh:

[SkinsOrlando]

And the **** talking starts. I feel left out.

Calling Chachie: I redeem myself tonight, I will no longer be your sig *****. HA HA HA.

LOL

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

UFC 83 picks:

Mark Bocek vs. Mac Danzig: I liked Mac's focus on TUF. He was a no BS ass kicker and nobody would mess with him in the house. Bocek was a big reason Frankie Edgar was considered to be the breakout fighter of the year. I don't see Bocek getting around Danzig's determination. Danzig, armbar round 1.

Michael Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy: I know Bisping talked some crap after his "win" against Hamill, but the guy is a good fighter. He got a lot of people to hate him after that fight. Bisping is underrated, in my eyes. Doesn't have KO power and isn't a submission specialist. He has nice takedown defense and an unorthadox standup. He will pepper you all night. Training with Juanito will make his hands even better. McCarthy is a finisher, Bisping will have to watch out. I expect this fight to be good. Another split decision, Bisping.

Nate Quarry vs. Kalib Starnes: Both these TUFers have fought top tier guys (not including Spider), and after seeing Quarry get owned by Rich Franklin, I just cannot pick him. Starnes should get this to the ground and watch out for getting G&P'd. If he controls the fight on the ground he'll find a way to pull a sub or win a decision. Round 3 RNC, Starnes.

Rich Franklin vs. Travis Lutter: I've been back and forth with this one. Rich actually controlled the pace against Spider in their second fight. I was impressed with how well he did before getting dropped at the end of the first round. If the last 30 seconds didn't happen, Rich would have easily won that round. Spider's killer instinct is just unmatched. Travis Lutter ALSO had a nice G&P against Anderson. Bum knee or not, Spider had his hands almost blindly sticking out to stop the onslaught. For a second there, Lutter looked to be on the verge of a stoppage. This is Rich's first step to getting another shot at Anderson and he knows how to prepare for a fight. People talk about Randy Couture's gameplanning, and I think Rich's is just as good. The only thing I think Rich needs to worry about is getting subbed. TKO by Rich round 2.

Matt Serra vs. GSP: GSP is an animal in the clinch and on the ground. Serra is a small, slippery guy on the ground, but GSP will be too focused to let Serra control something down there. As far as the standup, watch for GSP to shadowbox from the outside for a while, probing with some kicks and counterpunching Serra's haymakers. I think once Serra misses with some strikes, GSP will have no problem taking it down to the ground with the BJJ black belt. Anybody see Serra's right bicep at the weigh in? It looked like a piece was bitten out of it. That usually means a fighter has been working very hard on the heavy bag, the bicep gets puffy near where it connects with the shoulder and gets tiny near the elbow. Serra wants to throw that right. I think he's depending too much on his standup and will get owned on the ground. GSP, guillatine round 2.

[Rypien 91]

Does the PPV show all of the fights or only the main event?