bobandweave Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Try and keep it in perspective today. @adamlevitan: Redskins without their starting LT, LG, RG, outside WR, slot WR and pass-catching RB today. m.twitter.com/adamlevitan How many NFL QBs dealing with this could be successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 56 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: Serious question. Is there any outcome today that would not result in the trashing of Alex Smith by our usual suspects? By usual suspects, you mean literally everyone outside of you, bobandweave, and maybe a half dozen others on earth? This Bucs defense is attrocious and their offense let’s it fly. If winning doesn’t require throwing the ball a lot, I’ll be shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: Dalton went 21-34 for 280 and 2 tds against the Bucs. If Alex can get close to that with all the new faces, it would be a superb performance. That would be ok. I'd like for him to have a slightly higher completion % (because that is what he's known for), but that would be fine. I don't think he has that kind of day, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: By usual suspects, you mean literally everyone outside of you, bobandweave, and maybe a half dozen others on earth? This Bucs defense is attrocious and their offense let’s it fly. If winning doesn’t require throwing the ball a lot, I’ll be shocked. More atrocious than the probably voodoo-cursed Vikings defense that sacked Matt Stafford last week?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, TryTheBeal! said: More atrocious than the probably voodoo-cursed Vikings defense that sacked Matt Stafford last week?!? Actually that Vikings D is coming around, along with the running game. Which sucks for those of you that all the sudden have angst for them. Although their schedule is a B, you’ve always got that to look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandweave Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, TryTheBeal! said: Serious question. Is there any outcome today that would not result in the trashing of Alex Smith by our usual suspects? Serious answer is No. when you look behind the curtain to see why so many fans are down on the guy you will undoubtedly find that the majority is still pissed about losing the previous QB. One game won’t change that hell one season isn’t gonna change that for most of them. No reason to point out things like lack of turnovers, the false sense that the last guy hadn’t done things Alex did, the comparison between stats, the draft pick coming back, the massive injuries on that side of the ball, the lack of playmakers on that side of the ball or anything. Minds have been made up about this that won’t change. No matter what happens today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, bobandweave said: Try and keep it in perspective today. @adamlevitan: Redskins without their starting LT, LG, RG, outside WR, slot WR and pass-catching RB today. m.twitter.com/adamlevitan How many NFL QBs dealing with this could be successful? Yes with that amount of injuries to key people and positions, any QB and offense would have their backs against the wall. Though, sometimes, when you expect the least, that is when you get the most. And sometimes expectations are met and you do get the least. We'll see what happens today. Hopefully the former and not the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Always get a chuckle out of folks firmly entrenched in their position that have the audacity to call out the opposition for being firm in theirs. Also, serious question: Is there anything Alex can do today that will make the few suspects cave and admit deep down, they know dude stinks, but just won’t admit it publicly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandweave Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Always get a chuckle out of folks firmly entrenched in their position that have the audacity to call out the opposition for being firm in theirs. Also, serious question: Is there anything Alex can do today that will make the few suspects cave and admit deep down, they know dude stinks, but just won’t admit it publicly? Hey kettle I’m black. Chuckles or are my eyes not opened enough today in this 30 degree Texas weather to see you post my name above calling me out first? Anyway I will play with you. Yes if Alex goes out there and throws a bunch of picks and loses the game for them then I will admit that. Shouldn’t come off as a surprise to anyone because since day one I’ve said if I was wrong I would admit it So far with the change there are positives to take away from Alex vs the last guy 1. Less turnovers from the position 2. More wins over NFC East teams 3. Teams in first place 4. More cohesive side of the ball 5. No drama about what happens next season I could go on but we both know you ain’t listening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Also, I’d just like to say that given everything I’ve seen of the Bucs D & heard from the team and beat reporters, I believe the Redskins can win today, by passing it. I’m starting Jordan Reed for the final time this season before I call it quits. I think we’ll be able to run it okay, enough to open up playaction. However I don’t see any opportunities this juicy left on the schedule, as far as having succes through the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, Morneblade said: 35-48 with 425 yards, 4 td's and a pick. 36-50 with 422 yards, 3 td's and no picks In other words, he could look like a good NFL QB having a good day. Spoiler: Those are Kirk's statlines from his tie against the Packers and loss to the Rams this year. 15 minutes ago, bobandweave said: @adamlevitan: Redskins without their starting LT, LG, RG, outside WR, slot WR and pass-catching RB today. m.twitter.com/adamlevitan How many NFL QBs dealing with this could be successful? Certainly not Alex Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, bobandweave said: Serious answer is No. when you look behind the curtain to see why so many fans are down on the guy you will undoubtedly find that the majority is still pissed about losing the previous QB. One game won’t change that hell one season isn’t gonna change that for most of them. No reason to point out things like lack of turnovers, the false sense that the last guy hadn’t done things Alex did, the comparison between stats, the draft pick coming back, the massive injuries on that side of the ball, the lack of playmakers on that side of the ball or anything. Minds have been made up about this that won’t change. No matter what happens today. At least Morneblade had the fortitude to answer the question. Although, 425 yds and 4 tds seems a bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, bobandweave said: Anyway I will play with you. Yes if Alex goes out there and throws a bunch of picks and loses the game for them then I will admit that. Shouldn’t come off as a surprise to anyone because since day one I’ve said if I was wrong I would admit it So if he simply doesn’t create offense against this porous defense, that’s still okay with you. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobandweave said: Hey kettle I’m black. Chuckles or are my eyes not opened enough today in this 30 degree Texas weather to see you post my name above calling me out first? Anyway I will play with you. Yes if Alex goes out there and throws a bunch of picks and loses the game for them then I will admit that. Shouldn’t come off as a surprise to anyone because since day one I’ve said if I was wrong I would admit it Saying and doing are 2 different things. Most of us would be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, bobandweave said: No reason to point out things like lack of turnovers, the false sense that the last guy hadn’t done things Alex did, the comparison between stats, the draft pick coming back, the massive injuries on that side of the ball, the lack of playmakers on that side of the ball or anything. Minds have been made up about this that won’t change. No matter what happens today. The "last guy" had less play makers on that side of the ball and more injuries on the entire team, including his only two play makers (Reed and CT) out most of the year, never mind a worse MASH unit protecting him up front, yet still put up better numbers than Alex when he had a full healthy squad, and you have the audacity to try to call out others for having "false sense" and "having their minds made up"? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Tsailand said: Spoiler: Those are Kirk's statlines from his tie against the Packers and loss to the Rams this year. Certainly not Alex Smith. Yep. But great games none the less. The Pack game should have been a win IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, TryTheBeal! said: Although, 425 yds and 4 tds seems a bit silly. Considering that in 171 NFL games (counting playoffs) Alex Smith has never thrown for 400 yards, yes it would be silly to expect him to do it today. Kirk has done it five times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandweave Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Also, I’d just like to say that given everything I’ve seen of the Bucs D & heard from the team and beat reporters, I believe the Redskins can win today, by passing it. I’m starting Jordan Reed for the final time this season before I call it quits. I think we’ll be able to run it okay, enough to open up playaction. However I don’t see any opportunities this juicy left on the schedule, as far as having succes through the air. Couple of DFS plays for me 1. Tampa D is cheap AF 2. Mo Harris is cheap AF I wouldn’t start Reed dude doesn’t look right this year but considering your options at TE could definitely do worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Taylor 36 said: The "last guy" had less play makers on that side of the ball and more injuries on the entire team, including his only two play makers (Reed and CT) out most of the year, never mind a worse MASH unit protecting him up front, yet still put up better numbers than Alex when he had a full healthy squad, and you have the audacity to try to call out others for having "false sense" and "having their minds made up"? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Add to that a worse defense and zero running game. B&W is so far from being objective, I don't even bother with him anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandweave Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: At least Morneblade had the fortitude to answer the question. Although, 425 yds and 4 tds seems a bit silly. So did I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: I’m starting Jordan Reed for the final time this season before I call it quits. That's funny. I already called it quits on Reed. I dropped him this week and picked up Kittle. So naturally, this will be the week Reed goes off (hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Tsailand said: Considering that in 171 NFL games (counting playoffs) Alex Smith has never thrown for 400 yards, yes it would be silly to expect him to do it today. Kirk has done it five times. Does Kirk get a special banner or helmet sticker for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tsailand said: Considering that in 171 NFL games (counting playoffs) Alex Smith has never thrown for 400 yards, yes it would be silly to expect him to do it today. Kirk has done it five times. And as I already noted, twice this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandweave Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Morneblade said: Saying and doing are 2 different things. Most of us would be surprised. I know you would be not surprising at all. Not because admitting I’m wrong isnt something I haven’t done before but because of the reputation you have of me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, TryTheBeal! said: Do you get a special banner or helmet sticker for that? Nope, just $84 million dollars fully guaranteed. Most valuable of all, you get the hell away from Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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