HouseBowlrz Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 (my apologies in advance if this is already an active thread) Lawmakers in the State of Virginia passed House Bill 3202, which went into effect on 1 July, mandates stiff civil penalties for traffic violations but only for residents of Virginia. Details of the bill ... http://tinyurl.com/39fc3g ... and what are called "Civil Remedial Fees" ... http://tinyurl.com/2hcre2. I don't have a problem with the steeper fines as it may be a good deterrent to all the "road rage" that's out there. The issue that many within Virginia are having is that it does not apply to out of state drivers. Here in Northern Virginia, we get them every day ... and Interstates 81 and 95 get plenty of "through traffic". They are just as capable of irresponsible driving and should face the same, stiff penalties. There is an on-line petition calling for this bill's repeal: http://www.petitiononline.com/va3202/petition.html. At the time of this post, there are already 8000 signatures. Maybe it's time to move to West Virginia ??? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldysknzfn1 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 yup...we did this already...another thing to keep them in our pockets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 oh yes, we've had a VERY long discussion about this. i guess the bill of rights is no longer fashionable in our government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 oh yes, we've had a VERY long discussion about this. i guess the bill of rights is no longer fashionable in our government. No doubt this is a dumb question, but could you mention to me which part of the Bill of Rights you think is being violated, here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 No doubt this is a dumb question, but could you mention to me which part of the Bill of Rights you think is being violated, here? the eighth amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. come on larry, brush up on that constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portisizzle Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Drive the ****ing speed limit you idiots!!!! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Drive the ****ing speed limit you idiots!!!! :laugh: easy for you to say. hell, this law doesn't even apply to you when you ARE in virginia. damn politicians :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manleyistheman Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Drive the ****ing speed limit you idiots!!!! :laugh: Maybe it's because we don't live there but I agree with this statement. Everyone seems upset when they should be happy. This should deter people from breaking the law while behind the wheel of a car making the roads safer. I can't for the life of me see how this is a bad thing. But, I'm obviously a dense out-of-stater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Drive the ****ing speed limit you idiots!!!! :laugh: How about this one, failure to signal a lane change is a cool $1000.00. We could pay of the US debt if they enacted and enforced this everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 At first I thought this was real; I wouldn't be surprised if my state actually did that :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 How about this one, failure to signal a lane change is a cool $1000.00. We could pay of the US debt if they enacted and enforced this everywhere. i'm sure fairfax alone would pay the national debt with that part of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 At first I thought this was real; I wouldn't be surprised if my state actually did that :doh: take a third look, it's very real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 the eighth amendment:Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. come on larry, brush up on that constitution I cry "Uncle". (Me, I'd be more inclined to challenge the law using the "equal protection" clause, which is part of the Constitution, but isn't in the Bill of Rights. Although again, if I were Virginia, I'd say "it's a tax" (which, let's face it, a lot of you folks are saying already.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaimeDeCurry Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 easy for you to say. hell, this law doesn't even apply to you when you ARE in virginia. damn politicians :mad: So now that I have a Florida license instead of a VA one, this won't apply to me anymore? Because if so...this Ex-Virginian is passing all y'all on the parkway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portisizzle Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 How about this one, failure to signal a lane change is a cool $1000.00. We could pay of the US debt if they enacted and enforced this everywhere. Please take my comment for what it was worth....just jokes. I drove south from WAshington to Fredericksburg last week and saw those signs though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMK9973 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Did you guys see WHY it's not for out of state drivers? Because it's a Civil fine, and you are allowed to pay it over a payment plan, and they admit that they will have little luck getting other states to force their citizens to pay... Freaking funny! Do you all still have the Car Tax as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Please take my comment for what it was worth....just jokes.I drove south from WAshington to Fredericksburg last week and saw those signs though..... Thats a completly different thing. It's a Highway Safety Corridor. The huge fines there refer to the normal criminal part of the traffic ticket. These civil fines are on top of all the normal criminal penalties. Some people have even brought up using double jeopardy law as a defense. You have been punished by the courts and the state is also punishing you on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief skin Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Glad I moved out of the communist wealth of VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 There HAS to be a way to fight this. Everyone hates this law and as far as i know, Virginia is still a democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAFGA Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 As for me, I live in this state and I say drive the damn speed limit, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Like I said before... I love the state of VA, but it is things like this that make me count my blessings that I no longer live there. I'll never move back. Visit, yes. Move back... hell no. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAFGA Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Also, you can't say that this is a liberal vs. conservative thing because the bill's sponsor is a Republican, and it seemed it was voted for by pretty hefty margins. This wasn't a close call in the GA. BTW, I don't see speeding on that list at all. Is it somewhere I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 As for me, I live in this state and I say drive the damn speed limit, people. how would you feel about a $1000.00 fine for failure to signal a lane change? Or maybe a cool grand for improper use of brakes. (Not even sure what that is) If it were for DUI's and speeding in excess of 20mph over the limit I think most would be ok with it. It is just excessive for minor infractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 As for me, I live in this state and I say drive the damn speed limit, people. I have no idea where Glen Allen is, but here in Northern Va, driving the speed limit on 66 or the beltway is a great way to get yourself killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Time to get my drivers license changed to DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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