TheGreatBuzz Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 5 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: It depends on what they said about it internally. Eg, if outwardly they were saying 2017 but internally they thought 2025, that would be fraud. But if they were saying it internally and outwardly then fraud is much harder to prove. Being wrong isnt fraud. Probably why they're "examining" and not "charging." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: It depends on what they said about it internally. Eg, if outwardly they were saying 2017 but internally they thought 2025, that would be fraud. But if they were saying it internally and outwardly then fraud is much harder to prove. Being wrong isnt fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 The CC84 winning streak has ended at 1. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 2 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: It depends on what they said about it internally. Eg, if outwardly they were saying 2017 but internally they thought 2025, that would be fraud. But if they were saying it internally and outwardly then fraud is much harder to prove. Being wrong isnt fraud. In the linked article ... A Tesla engineer testified in 2022 in a lawsuit over a fatal crash involving Autopilot that one of the videos, posted in October 2016, intended to show the technology’s potential and did not accurately portray its capabilities at the time. Musk nevertheless posted the video on social media, writing: “Tesla drives itself (no human input at all) thru urban streets to highway streets, then finds a parking spot.” That's pretty clear that Musk was misrepresenting to the public what the car could do at that time. Whether it's labeled FSD is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 3 hours ago, Corcaigh said: In the linked article ... A Tesla engineer testified in 2022 in a lawsuit over a fatal crash involving Autopilot that one of the videos, posted in October 2016, intended to show the technology’s potential and did not accurately portray its capabilities at the time. Musk nevertheless posted the video on social media, writing: “Tesla drives itself (no human input at all) thru urban streets to highway streets, then finds a parking spot.” That's pretty clear that Musk was misrepresenting to the public what the car could do at that time. Whether it's labeled FSD is irrelevant. That certainly is the most damming evidence we know about. Tesla better get ready to pay some fines. Musk should have stayed out of politics. All these lawsuits as soon as he started being a conservative barking dog OUT LOUD just shows you how our legal system works. I don’t think the legal proceedings are unfair or the accusations necessarily untrue, but there is pretty strong correlation between Tesla’s legal problems and his Twitter quagmire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Can't take the heat then stay the **** out the spotlight. 🤣 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CousinsCowgirl84 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cooked Crack said: It’s a shame the world is full of people who act like the failure of the first attempt to do something world changing is some kind of indictment of the entire idea. The article appears to say the device itself is still producing useful data. as an aside, how do they take the air out of the brain after brain surgery? Edited May 10 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 This is fine... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: It’s a shame the world is full of people who act like the failure of the first attempt to do something world changing is some kind of indictment of the entire idea. The article appears to say the device itself is still producing useful data. as an aside, how do they take the air out of the brain after brain surgery? You don't make many good points in this thread but this is one of the few. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) hmm. I wonder if that’s why Musk decided to disband the supercharger team. Some kinda owning the libs something… Edited for context: Edited May 10 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 There's a huge one at my local Target, one in the former GA Power office parking lot, and I passed another one being built the other day, all within a 5-mile radius. I think that's pretty cool. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbyrwock Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: as an aside, how do they take the air out of the brain after brain surgery? Cuisinart vacuum sealer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Darn it, I only have a FoodSaver. *hangs head, kicks rocks* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 10 minutes ago, Jabbyrwock said: Cuisinart vacuum sealer. That explains why it didn’t work 🤷♀️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tshile Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 On 5/8/2024 at 8:53 PM, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Musk should have stayed out of politics. All these lawsuits as soon as he started being a conservative barking dog OUT LOUD just shows you how our legal system works. Um. Some of us, and many others, have been pointing out the issues with the way he does things long before he became active in politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Politics still unclear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 11 minutes ago, tshile said: Um. Some of us, and many others, have been pointing out the issues with the way he does things long before he became active in politics. Yea, I’m aware. My point is the politicians looked the other way until he got involved with politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 4 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Yea, I’m aware. My point is the politicians looked the other way until he got involved with politics. Well it’s totally fair to say that getting into politics increases scrutiny - we’ve seen it a thousand different ways. But also this stuff takes a while to get found out about - for investigations to launch, for trials to move forward, for whistleblowers to appear. Hell, it’s even possible that the reason he got into politics at all was to attach himself to a party to help provide him cover for things he saw coming down the pipe 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 22 hours ago, Cooked Crack said: https://www.teslarati.com/neuralink-human-trial-patient-progress/ From the patient himself: Y’all are giving me too much; it’s like a luxury overload, I haven’t been able to do these things in 8 years, and now I don’t know where to even start allocating my attention,” Arbaugh said. … “The biggest thing with comfort is that I can lie in my bed and use [the Link]. Any other assistive technology had to have someone else help or have me sit up. Sitting causes stress mentally and on my body, which would give me pressure sores or spasms. It lets me live on my own time, not needing to have someone adjust me, etc., throughout the day, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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@DCGoldPants Posted Tuesday at 04:46 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:46 PM Saw this yesterday. It's uglier in person like someone designed it in MS Paint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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