IrepDC Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 51 minutes ago, Thinking Skins said: I won't go that far. Williams and Kerrigan were re-signed, Dunbar was a great find and Matt I. Orakpo was given the franchise but wanted too much. I will say that we've seen a stream of talented but not elite players leave here (Crowder, Morris, Kelley, Breeland, Smith). These players were good but not great but we tried to find better quickly instead of developing them. Trent reset the market when we re-signed him, I thought? Kerrigan was a good one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Thinking Skins said: I will say that we've seen a stream of talented but not elite players leave here (Crowder, Morris, Kelley, Breeland, Smith). These players were good but not great but we tried to find better quickly instead of developing them. - Crowder: I was hoping they would re-sign him. - Morris as in Alfred Morris? He was one of my favorite players. And after he left, we had to suffer through a whole bunch of Jay's "try hard not very talented" guys like Rob Kelley. That said, he was PERFECT for the Shanahan scheme, and not so much for the Gruden/Callahan scheme. He didn't really fit, and wasn't as effective. - Which Kelley do you speak of? Surely it's not the player of whom we don't speak from the draft we do not mention. If it's Rob Kelley, he was the definition of 'just a guy.' There are 500 Rob Kelley's out there, and there was no reason to sign him. He wasn't that good. - Wasn't there something up with Bree where he wasn't re-signed, but there was kindof a reason? I can't remember. - Preston Smith was just so inconsistent, he wasn't worth re-signing for the money it was going to take to do so. And he was immediately inconsistent in GB also. I think when you're in the mode of draft, develop, keep, you have to really be good at knowing who you're going to re-sign and keep investing in after their first 3 years. We have a whole bunch of players on the team who are in their 2nd or 3rd year, and will be up for that soon. All of the guys are entering their third year, so at the end of the year, they would be eligible for extensions. They have an extra year on Young because of the 5th year option as a first round pick. They could wait on any of these guys one more year and re-sign them after the final year of their contract, but that means they are flirting with them going to FA. - Holcomb - Curl - Sweat - (Sooner than you would think) Chase Young - Gibson (though, that ship might have sailed) - S. Charles - James Smith-Williams - Toohill - Hudson So we'll see. I doubt all of these guys get extended, and not all of them should. But they are the next group of folks up for new contracts in the next couple of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Wolffe Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) Obviously this year is big for all those on the list. I would like the scenario where Sweat and Curl take the leap. Sweat to mitigate a negative recovery for Chase. Curl would be a nice fit for our safety/BN position long term. Anything worth keeping from the rest is a bonus. ~Wolffe Edited August 27, 2022 by Commander Wolffe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I'd say between the role on the team and the depth behind him, Holcomb might be the most important guy on the team this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I predict, Holcomb, Kurl, Sweat etc won’t take that next step. With Kurl and Sweat - I can see marignal improvements but with Holcomb it’s probably it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, dyst said: I predict, Holcomb, Kurl, Sweat etc won’t take that next step. With Kurl and Sweat - I can see marignal improvements but with Holcomb it’s probably it. Sweat has an 8-10 sack year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBeRedskins2Me Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Did we bring anyone in to compete with Slye this training camp? I'm starting to get worried. We all know what happens when a kicker gets the yips and it aint pretty. Could even wreck our season, potentially. Not saying that's the case here yet. Too soon for that but I am a tad bit concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, AlwaysBeRedskins2Me said: Did we bring anyone in to compete with Slye this training camp? I'm starting to get worried. We all know what happens when a kicker gets the yips and it aint pretty. Could even wreck our season, potentially. Not saying that's the case here yet. Too soon for that but I am a tad bit concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Is Joe Haden still a FA ? I’d take him on a one year deal. Sure we were linked with up him a while back. Could do with another vet dropping into the CB group IMO this season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I'd be feeling pretty good if we brought Haden and Collins in again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Chris Harris is still out there as well. We need to sign one of these vets as insurance. The young guys have been brutalized all preseason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 22 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: I'd be feeling pretty good if we brought Haden and Collins in again. Landon Collins? Nah. I think they are fine at safety. I think they would rather role with Butler/Forrest and get them experience than sign an old, cranky, expensive guy who plays LB but reuses to be called LB. I think they absolutely should be looking at a 4th or 5th CB, though. Fuller, WJIII and St. Juste are a fine one through three. However, when one of them gets hurt (and all three missed games last year, if I remember correctly), then the next guy up is terrifying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins 2021 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) Any interest on these players who could be released. Cleland Ferrell Alex Leatherwood OJ Howard Deion Jones Ronald Jones LJ Coller Montravious Adams Mike Gesicki I would like to take a shot at Ferrell at DE if price is right. Never should have been 4th pick but could be a good guy to team with Sweat while Young is out. Edited August 29, 2022 by Redskins 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I can't believe how far OJ Howard has fallen. That's one that I was totally wrong about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I think Leatherwood is worth trading a future 7th round pick for to secure his rights and remaining rookie deal. I even think LV save a decent wedge of cap space if the trade him. So better still maybe flip late round picks with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 42 minutes ago, Redskins 2021 said: Any interest on these players who could be released. Cleland Ferrell Alex Leatherwood OJ Howard Deion Jones Ronald Jones LJ Coller Montravious Adams Mike Gesicki I would like to take a shot at Ferrell at DE if price is right. Never should have been 4th pick but could be a good guy to team with Sweat while Young is out. Gesicki could be on the chopping block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins 2021 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ball Security said: Gesicki could be on the chopping block? That is the rumor definitely on trade block does not fit new dolphins offense. 50/50 on release. He is on franchise for 1 year 10 million. Edited August 29, 2022 by Redskins 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSkinz83 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 We don't need a TE. We badly need an LB, CB and probably a DT....I can make an argument for a DE as well. Not impressed with Toohill at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said: We don't need a TE. We badly need an LB, CB and probably a DT....I can make an argument for a DE as well. Not impressed with Toohill at all. We are very set at DE and DT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 We may need a RB as well, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins 2021 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) We don't really need any of these guys but is worth kicking the tires on. Edited August 29, 2022 by Redskins 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 It should not just be a question of what we ‘need’ - if a player is available and he represents an upgrade on what we have then we should be interested at the right cost. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSkinz83 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: We are very set at DE and DT. I strongly disagree. Even with Mathis healthy; We're short. We have Nothing above average at DE besides Sweat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins 2021 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: It should not just be a question of what we ‘need’ - if a player is available and he represents an upgrade on what we have then we should be interested at the right cost. 100 precent agree with that. Are these players better then some of the guys we have? I think Ferrell could be if situation is right. I think he could be good on other side of Sweat. Gesicki would be also be improvement very expensive thought. Would really fit Wentz type of TE/WR but 10 million for year is alot. Edited August 29, 2022 by Redskins 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Just now, FLSkinz83 said: I strongly disagree. Even with Mathis healthy; We're short. We have Nothing above average at DE besides Sweat. I don't disagree with you but would caution against breaking the bank for either of those two positions. Really, LB/CB/RB are now the most urgent needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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