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Election 2022 (Dems in charge of Senate. Reps take the House. Herschel Walker headed back home to ignore his children )


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5 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

The question is what happens if the GOP leadership doesn't want Trump to run, but he does anyway. They didn't want him to run in 2016 either, or at least didn't want him to be the nominee but all fell in line when the tide turned in his favor.  Do they tell DeSantis to stay away and keep a good thing going in Florida, continue to build up his rep as the next in line, and focus on 2028 when there will be no potential Trump conflict?  I can say with certainty that if both Trump & DeSantis run, Trump is going to try and hit DeSantis hard at being an establishment hack.  It won't work on the entire base, but there are a ton of GOP voters who are loyal to the MAGA cult over anything else.  They don't view Trump as a politician but more as a prophet in a sick sort of way.  When you are dealing with a cult of personality, reality & facts (and policies) don't really matter.  

 

 

Yeah and what people from outside of CA might not understand is that Porter lives in a pocket of Southern California that is pretty split down the middle between Dem/GOP voters.  Porter even being elected is sort of already a feat.  No matter how well she performs, she is always going to have a legitimate battle on her hands because of the demographics of her district. 

 

The fact they can't get Feinstein to retire and the Governor appoint Porter in her spot is insane. She's too damn effective with her delivery style to be wasted in the house.

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1 hour ago, Vilandil Tasardur said:

The key to trying to figure out how Trump and the GOP split or don't split lies, I think, in trying to understand what Trump actually wants. 

 

If you think Trump WANTS to be president again, then any talk of him running independent is outrageous. He'd never be able to fund the campaign without the GOP and they both know they'd just neuter the other along the way. 

If you think Trump just wants the GOP to lose if it can't be him, they he may be happy to neuter the GOP by running independent. 

Personally, I think what Trump wants is to run at all costs to ensure his candidacy so he can cry that any investigations are political attacks. He wants the protection, not the position. And if that's the case, then I think he's running no matter what (Republican or Independent). And IF that's true, then the GOP will obviously just do whatever he wants because with him on the ticket they have a chance, but with him as an independent they have none. 

Trump is running to:

 

1. Make money.  That’s what drives him.

2. As you said, to blunt those investigations against. You can’t investigate a candidate. You can’t charge a president. 
3. Revenge against his enemies.

 

If he ran a third party bid, it would be to stop the gop candidate from winning. Think is, how much will he be able to raise. Maga supporters won’t be able to give him much. The only big donors he would get would be Maga. Most of the big donors would be with the gop. You know he won’t spend his own money.

 

He probably could get on the ballot on all 50 states but would he spend the money to do that?

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9 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

Trump is running to:

 

1. Make money.  That’s what drives him.

 

 

LOL yeah, if running with an (R) next to his name makes him $100M richer, he'll do that.  If running with an (I) next to his name makes him $100.01M richer he'll do that.  If, by some insane set of circumstances, running with a (D) next to his name makes him $100.02M richer, he'll do that as well.

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