Skinsinparadise Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 It could be worse, if this is true, wow! 😀 I am in the camp that Dak is vastly overrated. Aside from Elliot, they might have other looming hold outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreZorn Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: It could be worse, if this is true, wow! 😀 I am in the camp that Dak is vastly overrated. Aside from Elliot, they might have other looming hold outs. Wow what an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, HardcoreZorn said: Wow what an idiot. I noticed Slater who covers the Cowboys is doubling down on the story. PFT is challenging it. If it's true, i am guessing its driven by the idea that Mahomes might get 40 million a year as some guess when he hits FA. If so Dak, maybe wants to beat him to the punch. To me Dak is just a little better than a game manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreZorn Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, Skinsinparadise said: I noticed Slater who covers the Cowboys is doubling down on the story. PFT is challenging it. If it's true, i am guessing its driven by the idea that Mahomes might get 40 million a year as some guess when he hits FA. If so Dak, maybe wants to beat him to the punch. To me Dak is just a little better than a game manager. Yeah Dak is like a younger Alex Smith, they would be much better off allocating that money elsewhere and taking a couple of shots in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I agree with dak..I mean certainly 30 million a year is definitely not enough money 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, HardcoreZorn said: Yeah Dak is like a younger Alex Smith, they would be much better off allocating that money elsewhere and taking a couple of shots in the draft. Yep. Among other things. he's never thrown for 4000 yards plus. Ironically his career best season is almost identical to Case Keenum's career year in Minny. I think if the Elliot holdout carries into the season, they are screwed. I am normally a QB over a RB guy by a mile. But to me Elliot is an elite back and Dak is just a slightly above average QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: It could be worse, if this is true, wow! 😀 I am in the camp that Dak is vastly overrated. Aside from Elliot, they might have other looming hold outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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@DCGoldPants Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Teams are going to start taking QBs earlier and earlier. Same with RBs in the draft expecting these guys to price themselves out of their cap space. Then you'll have an oversaturated FA market and the costs of these guys will go down while screaming collusion the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbias Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/10/2019 at 3:52 PM, desertbeagle85 said: No not really ever since Snyder bought this team they've been trash. Trading Trent for nothing would just add to the pile. Wouldn't trading him away for garbage just be the most consistent outcome of what we've grown to expect? I'm trying not to be negative, but also realistic. IMHO Bruce will get a bruised ego, blame the player/his agent, then celebrate his 'B' plan because it's 'better than nothing'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbias Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: Teams are going to start taking QBs earlier and earlier. Same with RBs in the draft expecting these guys to price themselves out of their cap space. Then you'll have an oversaturated FA market and the costs of these guys will go down while screaming collusion the whole time. How can teams possibly start taking QBs earlier? QBs have been the #1 overall pick in 7 of the past 10 years. It's a position that gets constantly reached for in each draft, largely because of the costs associated with having or not having a good one (cap charge vs. no playoffs). The salary cap is based on a percentage of NFL revenues. When sports betting money starts flowing into that pot of money the salary cap will continue to grow. I don't see this over-saturation you speak of happening any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Only a matter of time Before players start asking for rookie contracts to be 3 years + option across the board instead of just after round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veryoldschool Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I've only seen Dak Prescott play 5-6 times but he has always seemed like more of a project than a special player. Him asking for 40M seems bizarre to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, Veryoldschool said: I've only seen Dak Prescott play 5-6 times but he has always seemed like more of a project than a special player. Him asking for 40M seems bizarre to me. Dak Prescott has already played 3 year in the league and 3 years as a starter... If after 3 years he's still a project, that's a problem. Hopefully that's Jerruh's problem and I'm all for it for them to pay him $40M and whatever Elliott wants, they'll have 50% of their cap space tied onto 2 guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: Dak Prescott has already played 3 year in the league and 3 years as a starter... If after 3 years he's still a project, that's a problem. Hopefully that's Jerruh's problem and I'm all for it for them to pay him $40M and whatever Elliott wants, they'll have 50% of their cap space tied onto 2 guys Catching up on the reports, one reporter said Dak asked for 34 million and Dallas counter offered with 30. If that's the case its still crazy and am loving it. Ross Tucker thinks its posturing by the agent where he asks for 40 million but they then meet in the middle. Another reporter said (to me this makes sense and I thought it before I read it) this is Jerry Jones leaking it to make Dak look unreasonable so the heat heads Dak's way as opposed to the Cowboys FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Wait how did this turn into a dak Prescott thread....? He’s not Trent Williams 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veryoldschool Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: Dak Prescott has already played 3 year in the league and 3 years as a starter... If after 3 years he's still a project, that's a problem. Hopefully that's Jerruh's problem and I'm all for it for them to pay him $40M and whatever Elliott wants, they'll have 50% of their cap space tied onto 2 guys I don't know if Prescott is a project or not I'm just saying he always looked pretty raw and a work in progress to me but I've only seen him 5 or 6 times. All the same, he never looked like the next guy to set the bar for the biggest QB salary in the NFL but I think he should hold out and play golf with Trent this fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Wait how did this turn into a dak Prescott thread....? He’s not Trent Williams 😂😂😂 Some comic relief at the expense of the Cowboys FO. Our own FO has been comic relief for other teams in the NFL East. So some fun retribution.😀 Now back to Trent: Please Texans listen to Peter King. If they are willing to deal a 3rd for a RB, why not a first for a LT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueIndian Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I saw this thread all lit up and thought we had some news about the TW situation. What happened ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 D hop for t Williams straight up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Unbias said: How can teams possibly start taking QBs earlier? QBs have been the #1 overall pick in 7 of the past 10 years. It's a position that gets constantly reached for in each draft, largely because of the costs associated with having or not having a good one (cap charge vs. no playoffs). The salary cap is based on a percentage of NFL revenues. When sports betting money starts flowing into that pot of money the salary cap will continue to grow. I don't see this over-saturation you speak of happening any time soon. I mean that a team with an established QB will continue to draft them at their spot in the first 3 rounds as a backup plan for guys they can't afford. If cap goes up, contract demands will as well... As it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I say they need to show Dak some love. They really low-balled him with 30m. Dak was being too modest looking for 40. Dallas should offer fifty plus contract guarantees that they will not draft a qb in the first five rounds of the draft while he is under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Burgold said: I say they need to show Dak some love. They really low-balled him with 30m. Dak was being too modest looking for 40. Dallas should offer fifty plus contract guarantees that they will not draft a qb in the first five rounds of the draft while he is under contract. In 2 years $50M a yr will be seen as a bargain...someone needs to tell them that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Califan007 said: In 2 years $50M a yr will be seen as a bargain...someone needs to tell them that. I'm with you. IN today's NFL no player is as important as the quarterback. Therefore, a foreward looking team would lock up their quarterback for the rest of their career. The smartest salary allocation would be 52 players at Vet min plus incentives. Dak Prescott at 120m/year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 JP Finlay who started off on the Trent saga being positive that it will work out said tonight on Redskins 100 that he now expects Trent to be traded. hope he's right. Will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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