CousinsCowgirl84 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Iran anti air weaponry is Russian, so you would expect Russian missile fragments from an Iranian strike... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Folks, this really belongs in the "Iran" thread, not the "Boeing" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Larry said: Folks, this really belongs in the "Iran" thread, not the "Boeing" thread. I wouldn’t agree with that until we KNOW it was shot down. There is still not enough proof to say it was shot down. It could have been a mechanical malfunction. And while it wasn’t a MAX model, it still was a Boeing 737. I’d argue the chat should stay here until we know it was due to something nefarious. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 the standard 737 is a time tested airframe it was also a experienced crew it was also fairly new the comms going out 2 minutes before the crash are also strange it can fly with one engine so a engine fire should not bring it down bomb or missile would be my guess unless they were carrying explosive articles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I wouldn’t agree with that until we KNOW it was shot down. There is still not enough proof to say it was shot down. It could have been a mechanical malfunction. And while it wasn’t a MAX model, it still was a Boeing 737. I’d argue the chat should stay here until we know it was due to something nefarious. Okay. Now I'll admit this should go to the Iran thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Why yes. Yes it should. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PokerPacker Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Sure would be nice if some of that $60 million went to the blue-collar workers who were laid off because of the white-collar negligence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 FAA proposes Boeing $5.4 million fine for defective 737 Max parts The Federal Aviation Administration is seeking a $5.4-million fine against Boeing for faulty wing parts on dozens of 737 Max planes. The planes have been grounded worldwide since March after two fatal crashes, but FAA’s proposed penalty does not refer to the flight-control software that was implicated in those two deadly flights. The proposed fine caps a devastating week for Boeing. A Boeing plane crashed in Iran killing all 176 people on board and hundreds of internal messages were released that revealed employees boasted about bullying regulators to limit government scrutiny of the 737 Max. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Boeing discovers issue with 737 Max flight computers, source says Boeing's troubled 737 Max has run into a new glitch. During a recent technical review involving the Max, Boeing observed an issue with the plane's flight computers, according to a source familiar with the matter. The source said the issue is not related to the software revisions Boeing made to address the cause of two fatal crashes that killed 346 people, and would not occur during flight. The Max has been grounded since March following the second of those crashes. The computer issue was observed when booting up the computers on a Max and involves the so-called software power up monitoring function, which checks for anomalies when turning on the computers. It's similar to the steps any computer might make when first turned on. The source said the process of turning on the computers is performed when the plane is on the ground, rather than in flight. The source said the test was intended to find any issues like this one and that Boeing would fix the problem. Boeing has been working on a software fix for the safety system that is believed to be the cause of the two fatal crashes. The source could not say whether this latest issue would impact the company's submission of the software changes to the Federal Aviation Administration. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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China Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 In related news: Boeing 787s must be turned off and on every 51 days to prevent 'misleading data' being shown to pilots The US Federal Aviation Administration has ordered Boeing 787 operators to switch their aircraft off and on every 51 days to prevent what it called "several potentially catastrophic failure scenarios" – including the crashing of onboard network switches. The airworthiness directive, due to be enforced from later this month, orders airlines to power-cycle their B787s before the aircraft reaches the specified days of continuous power-on operation. The power cycling is needed to prevent stale data from populating the aircraft's systems, a problem that has occurred on different 787 systems in the past. According to the directive itself, if the aircraft is powered on for more than 51 days this can lead to "display of misleading data" to the pilots, with that data including airspeed, attitude, altitude and engine operating indications. On top of all that, the stall warning horn and overspeed horn also stop working. This alarming-sounding situation comes about because, for reasons the directive did not go into, the 787's common core system (CCS) – a Wind River VxWorks realtime OS product, at heart – stops filtering out stale data from key flight control displays. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 So many potential jokes. One I saw on a t-shirt: If I'm ever on life support, please pull the plug Then plug me back in. See if that works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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China Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Boeing 737 Max returns to skies in Brazil 20 months after crashes and design flaw caused grounding of global fleet Commercial flights with Boeing 737 Max jetliners have resumed for the first time since they were grounded worldwide nearly two years ago following two deadly accidents. Brazil's Gol Airlines became the first in the world to return the planes to its active fleet, using a 737 Max 8 on a flight from São Paulo to Porto Alegre, according to flightradar24.com. The Boeing plane was grounded globally in March 2019, shortly after a 737 Max crashed in Ethiopia. A prior crash in Indonesia involving the model occurred in October 2018. In all, 346 people died. The two fatal crashes were caused at least in part by the plane's anti-stall system, MCAS, which was designed to automatically push the plane's nose down but left pilots unable to regain control in some circumstances. Boeing said it upgraded the plane's safety systems and software before winning approval to fly again. Brazil's aviation regulator lifted its restrictions on the 737 Max in November, clearing the way for the plane to resume flights in Latin America's biggest country. Similar restrictions have been lifted in the US and Europe, where commercial airline flights with the plane are expected to resume soon, likely starting with American Airlines on December 29. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 U.S. FAA tracking all Boeing 737 MAX airplanes via satellite data The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said on Friday it is tracking all Boeing 737 MAX airplanes using satellite data under an agreement with air traffic surveillance firm Aireon LLC. Aireon and L3Harris Technologies announced in November a new partnership with the FAA giving the agency broad access to Aireon’s real-time air traffic surveillance Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) data. The FAA said on Friday that “Aireon is providing the agency with ADS-B flight data for all Boeing 737 MAX aircraft.” “Aireon’s system will flag deviations from certain parameters during all phases of flight and alert the FAA’s aviation safety division. Safety engineers and inspectors will use the early notification to further analyze the incident,” the agency said. Boeing did not immediately comment. The FAA 737 MAX monitoring began on Jan. 29, Aireon Chief Technology Officer Vinny Capezzuto said during a Feb. 12 web event hosted by Aviation Week. “You can literally monitor it on a situational awareness display and it has event detection tied into it,” Capezzuto said, adding the FAA can look for emergency codes and track other data. The system emails FAA “when events are detected and every day you get a report card on” data from flights from the previous day,” he said. The FAA used Aireon data in its decision to ground the entire 737 MAX fleet in March 2019 days after the second fatal 737 MAX crash in five months. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Hmm.... sounds like someone isn’t super confident that the issue is solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Glad we got the one guy and only one guy responsible for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Glad we got the one guy and only one guy responsible for this. A pilot. Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fergasun Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 If I know anything about recent documentaries I have watched re: federal prosecutors its that they love over-hyping their cases in the media and over-charging. I did see some of the e-mails that were leaked. Maybe this guy will plead to 5 years. Maybe he will argue he was pressured by CEOs. It will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) Edited November 11, 2021 by Cooked Crack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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