mammajamma Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, CRobi21 said: Thanks for June Schwarbs! His HR streak was definitely the highlight of our season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Got 3 good weeks out of Schwarber just to trade him.**** everything. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, bearrock said: Spending doesn't guarantee winning. But it becomes extremely hard to win in baseball without spending. Saying that it's too expensive to keep one of the best shortstops in the league because of you have to pay two other marquee pitchers and hopefully pay a generational talent is BS of the highest order. This is all well and good. What's the alternative? Sign Turner. Then what? Strasburg's injury is crippling--saying we're paying two pitchers all that money is one thing. We are paying them all that money and getting nothing out of them. The Dodgers also have Will Smith, Walker Beuler, Chris Taylor ($7.8m). We don't have that. The Dodgers also have a $284m payroll, per baseball-reference. There is no one else in MLB even close to that number. Trading Turner sucks. But, we are going to try and field a competitive team next year with Strasburg, Corbing, Turner, Soto, Schwarber, Bell, Harris, Ross, Fedde? at about $130m or so--Stras, Corbin, and Harris will give us nothing or next to nothing next year. So really, it would have been that much for 4 productive players or so. Yes we can look back and say we should hve not traded Gilolito, or resigned Harper, or any other number of other moves in Hindsight GMing--which is pointless. This is the situation as it is. Our farm system is bereft of talent. We needed to start retooling--or suffer the fate of the Phillies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Jeez this team is going to be complete **** for the next decade isn’t it.....I’m going to laugh when Soto leaves too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Aldo Ramirez seems to be a rapid riser in the Sox system. He was just shut down with elbow tendinitis though. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.overthemonster.com/platform/amp/2021/2/23/22296842/boston-red-sox-2021-top-prospects-aldo-ramirez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Jeez this team is going to be complete **** for the next decade isn’t it.....I’m going to laugh when Soto leaves too. If we didn't do what we did today, then yes. However, these are the moves that have to be made, logically and without emotion, to be good 3 years from now, instead of the Phillies. Now, what's imperative is drafting and developing--what we haven't done lately--which is part of the reason we're in this mess. No more Romeros. No more Feddes. No more Kiebooms. No more Denaburgs. No more organizational fillers in the later rounds. Also--while they are not sure things--we have done very well in the international market--and are linked to the top player in next years crop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Jeez this team is going to be complete **** for the next decade isn’t it.....I’m going to laugh when Soto leaves too. Not sure why people keep throwing out 2025 or "a decade".. it doesnt take that long to bring up top 15 prospects. These guys will be ready to go before Soto's contract is up, barring injury 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Aldo Ramirez seems to be a rapid riser in the Sox system. He was just shut down with elbow tendinitis though. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.overthemonster.com/platform/amp/2021/2/23/22296842/boston-red-sox-2021-top-prospects-aldo-ramirez if the tendinitis is not a big deal, that's a great pickup for trading a 1 year rental, in a spot we definitely need better up and comers at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I'm looking forward to seeing all these top prospects we've been signing from the Caribbean pop up. I think we're going to find we have some more Soto-lites. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Huddy to the Padres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Whole 2019 team is gone practically, minus Soto, Zimmerman, stars, Gomes, and Corbin Edited July 30, 2021 by Cooleyfan1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 As far as Schwarb goes, he's a free agent after this season. So its still possible we get him back PLUS a highly ranked starting pitching prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: This is all well and good. What's the alternative? Sign Turner. Then what? Strasburg's injury is crippling--saying we're paying two pitchers all that money is one thing. We are paying them all that money and getting nothing out of them. The Dodgers also have Will Smith, Walker Beuler, Chris Taylor ($7.8m). We don't have that. The Dodgers also have a $284m payroll, per baseball-reference. There is no one else in MLB even close to that number. Trading Turner sucks. But, we are going to try and field a competitive team next year with Strasburg, Corbing, Turner, Soto, Schwarber, Bell, Harris, Ross, Fedde? at about $130m or so--Stras, Corbin, and Harris will give us nothing or next to nothing next year. So really, it would have been that much for 4 productive players or so. Yes we can look back and say we should hve not traded Gilolito, or resigned Harper, or any other number of other moves in Hindsight GMing--which is pointless. This is the situation as it is. Our farm system is bereft of talent. We needed to start retooling--or suffer the fate of the Phillies. This team was screwed the moment that we learned that Stras is likely never going to be the same. There's two ways to get through it: eat the cost of his contract and take it out of the budget or blow it up and build back from the ground. Given the state of the farm, this is not a 2-3 year rebuild to contention unless you throw copious amount of money at it. Whoever you get back for Turner was never going to turn around and replace MVP level production in 2-3 years. And we are sub 500 with both Turner and Soto, with almost no help coming from the farm. It's either a long rebuild from the ground up or spending money to acquire talent while the farm has a chance to restock. Edited July 30, 2021 by bearrock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheGoodBits Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Flamed out as a rotation prospect, looks like he converted to bullpen a couple years ago. Mediocre results but did pitch a little for the Padres this year. He’s tall. Hard meh but it was just for Huddy so wasn’t expecting much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I don't want to jinx it, but if he's meh....that's already better than our BP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, Barry.Randolphe said: I don't want to jinx it, but if he's meh....that's already better than our BP Sam Clay says hi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 In the next couple of years, we'll have Cavalli, Rutledge, Henry, Lara, Gray pushing their way into the big leagues or already establishing themselves. The bullpen back end of the bullpen looks like Thompson, Cronin, Klobosits in some order. That's before any additional free agents or additional trades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Flamed out as a rotation prospect, looks like he converted to bullpen a couple years ago. Mediocre results but did pitch a little for the Padres this year. He’s tall. Hard meh but it was just for Huddy so wasn’t expecting much. Counterpoint: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Counterpoint: He was one of the guys in the proposed Scherzer trade earlier today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 So who's technically our ace now? Fedde? If you told me last year that Fedde would be our ace to close out this season, I would've fainted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 So the line up tomorrow is going to be: RF: Soto CF: Stevenson LF: Parra 3B: Kieboom SS: Escobar 2B: Garcia 1B: Zimm C : Barrera Rotation is Fedde, Lester, Corbin, Ross, and...littering and...littering and? We're looking at a top-10 pick. Right now, it;s better to lose 95 than 85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Old news, but just saw LA takes on all money due to Max and Trea. Going to have a ton of money left over after tonight if we wanted to at least make next year interesting in free agency Edited July 30, 2021 by mammajamma 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: This is great since we probably couldn't have gotten a bag of fertilizer for him earlier this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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