Springfield Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 The funny thing is that nobody pays attention to voting record. The only time you hear about voting record is attack ads during election time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Subverting natural selection has been a bi-partisan goal since around 1945, for some reason. As steve said, the best answer to stupidity is education. Having a highly educated populace can help solve many ills. It's not a perfect solution to everything, but it definitely helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 6 hours ago, Kilmer17 said: I'd love a poll test! how about a tax too? We can exempt those who own land from taking the test and paying the tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btfoom Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 18 hours ago, dfitzo53 said: My gut tells me you're wrong about that. No,not at all. He's 100% right. Everyone reads a few articles and then feel they are the expert. Meanwhile, folks who went through undergrad, post grad, and sometimes extra testing (Bar, P.E., etc) and live it day in and day out are too often dismissed because someone on some web-site told the 'truth'. Here, I'll take Predicto's take on law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 You must be short because that joke flew right over your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 10 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I've said for a while I'd support some type of test before you can vote. Just a basic civics and history test. And apply it to both sides across the board. I could go for that. Whether it leads to a conservative or a liberal government, I'm not sure government by high information elites is actually bad so long as there is relatively free access to information in a society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Oh stop, please. Elites have a responsibility to educate and engage the masses, not disenfranchise them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 It's a shame Congress doesn't have the same desire to pass the First Responders bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 10 minutes ago, Predicto said: Oh stop, please. Elites have a responsibility to educate and engage the masses, not disenfranchise them. A job which would be easier to do if people would stop electing dumb Republicans. Municipal government is an interesting comparison Turnout for most municipal elections in the mid sized city I live in is typically tiny. ~13-15% of eligible voters, and I think that is probably close to the norm in most localities. So most of the electorate for these contests are motivated, high information voters that tend to be directly involved in the city's municipal institutions. Municipal elections are the ones where the electorate tends to be the most pragmatic and the least partisan. So is this not preferable to the nature of the contests you get for the state and federal level? But perhaps a small electorate can lead to flukes ruining the results. Best to cut the voters out of the process entirely then to ensure this doesn't happen. The appetitive masses are best off being ruled by benign philosopher kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: . The appetitive masses are best off being ruled by benign philosopher kings. Oh, I see what you are trying to do. I'm sorry, I just can't accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 I tend to think it would be better to make the people into philosophers than to make the philosophers into kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 14 hours ago, DogofWar1 said: Subverting natural selection has been a bi-partisan goal since around 1945, for some reason. I'm so glad you are on the same page as me with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 4 hours ago, Predicto said: Oh stop, please. Elites have a responsibility to educate and engage the masses, not disenfranchise them. Doesn't seem to be working though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 9 hours ago, tshile said: Doesn't seem to be working though elites are distracted, I blame global warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 14 hours ago, tshile said: Doesn't seem to be working though It takes a village. And villages of teachers/infrastructure/ etc. requires taxes. And people HATE taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 12 minutes ago, DogofWar1 said: It takes a village. And villages of teachers/infrastructure/ etc. requires taxes. And people HATE taxes. It also takes a desire to do so. And that's directed at both sides of this equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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