The Supreme Court, and abortion.

[Cooked Crack]

 

[Bang]

Gosh.

That sure sounds like tyranny.
I don't know. Maybe Websters has had it wrong all these centuries?

 

~Bang

[Califan007 The Constipated]

1 hour ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

 

 

27 of 67??...I mean, good lord lol...that should tell them everything. But I suppose those 27 represent areas that voted strongly against Issue 1 so they feel safe signing that piece of political performance art.

[Larry]

28 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

27 of 67??...I mean, good lord lol...that should tell them everything. But I suppose those 27 represent areas that voted strongly against Issue 1 so they feel safe signing that piece of political performance art.

 

How many of them voted for "I know!  Let's write a constitutional amendment, designed to take away the voter's ability to pass a constitutional amendment, and make sure our amendment gets voted on before the one the voters want gets voted on, so we can take away their power to vote against the unpopular law we want to impose on them"?  

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

[China]

Feds say Alabama can’t stop people from planning out-of-state abortions

 

Attorneys for the U.S. Department of Justice filed a motion Thursday in a case challenging the Alabama attorney general’s position that people can be prosecuted for assisting women who travel out of state for abortions.

 

Those prosecutions would violate the Constitutional right to travel across state lines, according to the DOJ motion. One of the organizations suing Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall, Yellowhammer Fund, provided travel assistance to women who needed abortions before Marshall said on a radio show that such conduct might constitute criminal conspiracy.

 

Yellowhammer Fund and owners of two women’s health clinics sued Marshall this summer, alleging the statements limited their rights of free speech and the right to travel. Last week, the U.S. Department of Justice signaled it would weigh in on the case.

 

“Just as the Alabama AG cannot directly prohibit an individual from crossing state lines to obtain a legal abortion, neither can he seek to achieve the same result by threatening to prosecute anyone who assists that individual in their travel,” according to the Department of Justice motion. “Thus, for the reasons explained more fully below, the United States files this Statement of Interest in support of Plaintiffs’ right to travel claims.”

 

Click on the link for the full article

[China]

20 women are now suing Texas, saying state abortion laws endangered them

 

Cristina Nuñez's doctors had always advised her not to get pregnant. She has diabetes, end-stage renal disease and other health conditions, and when she unexpectedly did become pregnant, it made her extremely sick. Now she is suing her home state of Texas, arguing that the abortion laws in the state delayed her care and endangered her life.

 

Nuñez and six other women joined an ongoing lawsuit over Texas's abortion laws. The plaintiffs allege the exception for when a patient's life is in danger is too narrow and vague, and endangered them during complicated pregnancies.

 

The case was originally filed in March with five patient plaintiffs, but more and more patients have joined the suit. The total number of patients suing Texas in this case is now 20 (two OB-GYN doctors are also part of the lawsuit). After a dramatic hearing in July, a district court judge agreed with the plaintiffs that the law needed to change, but the state immediately appealed her ruling directly to the Texas Supreme Court. That move allows Texas' three overlapping abortion bans to stand.

 

In the July hearing, lawyers for the Texas Attorney General's office argued that women had not been harmed by the state's laws and suggested that their doctors were responsible for any harms they claimed.

 

Also joining the lawsuit is Kristen Anaya, whose water broke too early. She developed sepsis, shaking and vomiting uncontrollably, while waiting for an abortion in a Texas hospital. The other new plaintiffs are Kaitlyn Kash, D. Aylen, Kimberly Manzano, Dr. Danielle Mathisen, and Amy Coronado, all of whom received serious and likely fatal fetal diagnoses and traveled out of state for abortions.

 

The Texas Supreme Court is set to consider the Center's request for a temporary injunction that would allow abortions in a wider range of medical situations. That hearing is scheduled for Nov. 28.

 

Click on the link for the full article

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[Larry]

Wonder how they picked 15 days?  

 

Would 15 days be short enough so that no actual women could possibly use it, but long enough to allow disposal of unfertalized petri dishes?  

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[GhostofSparta]

6 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

Are they also gonna try to pull a Texas and police every woman driving to/from VT, MA, RI, NY, CT, etc?

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[Fan since a Fetus]

^ that seems surprising. She’s listening to her constituents instead of just doing whatever the hell she wants. My god!!! Is she well?

[Larry]

Admiring the phrase "has withdrawn, calling it a mistake"  

 

She should have done that before pulling the trigger. 

[Cooked Crack]

 

 

[Cooked Crack]

Making national news now

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Missouri Republican lawmakers are pushing a pair of bills that would allow for women to be charged with murder for getting an abortion in the state. 

 

The proposed legislation would give fetuses the same rights as human beings, which would allow for criminal charges to be filed against anyone who gets an abortion, helps someone get an abortion or provides abortion care in the state, which implemented a near-total ban on the procedure after last year’s U.S. Supreme Court ruling. 

 

Sen. Mike Moon, R-Ash Grove, and Rep. Bob Titus, R-Billings, pre-filed the bills on Dec. 1 ahead of next year’s legislative session, which begins next month. 

 

The bills, both called the “Abolition of Abortion in Missouri Act,” do not state explicitly whether getting an abortion in another state would be illegal. While abortion is banned in Missouri in nearly all circumstances, the procedure is still available in bordering states Kansas and Illinois.

 

[Larry]

What if the fetus was threatening the woman's life, and she shoots it?  

[Fan since a Fetus]

29 minutes ago, Larry said:

What if the fetus was threatening the woman's life, and she shoots it?  

Self defense. I like it and approve!

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[Larry]

I'm shocked. Anybody else shocked?  

[EmirOfShmo]

 

[Destino]

This stuff happening in Texas is horrifying. I hope the nation is watching because I bet many people sincerely thought abortion would simply be limited. That republicans would not use the issue as cruelly as Ken Paxton has done (despite warning from democrats that they surely would). It’s undeniable now. 

[Larry]

Who would have thought that spending 50 years telling people that abortion, any abortion, was literally the intentional murder of a baby, (And they had to say that, and pretend to believe it. Or else they couldn't justify doing what they wanted to do.) would lead to zealotry?