bird_1972 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Mccloughan had to meet with Snyder for hours so that the coach could make a coaching decision on who is his starting QB. What was obvious to anyone with a functional eye could not be seen by the dude. Let's not pretend that everything is 100% different now. Snyder has learned to keep us from hearing about his involvement which in no way makes it nonexistent. I sadly suspect we will be dealing with Snyder's dysfunctional personality until he dies or sells the team. Scot is doing a good job of holding things together. I hope he can maintain it. That doesn't negate his point. When they signed with the team, Shanny and Scot were both given the task of shutting down Snyder's meddling. Mike failed, and from what we've seen so far, Scot has not. Shanny let an owner override his own decisions, and by his own accusations let one single second-year player overrule his own offensive scheme. That Snyder was attached to this is not up for debate. Nobody disagrees. But Mike folded, and let them walk all over him. If Mike had put his foot down, one way or another, he wouldn't have any blame. If he succeeded, he'd get the credit that Scot has now for getting Snyder out of the way. If that had failed, and he ended up getting fired or quitting over it, he would be a martyr that would have the sympathy of the fans, and quite likely a job with another team. But Mike didn't do that, and now he's stewing in his own juices with no one to blame but himself for landing there. He lost his innocence when he let people walk all over his "authority", and he lost his credibility with it. Why are we holding Snyder blameless? Since when are employees responsible for controlling their employers? That's something I've rarely, if ever, heard of and I think it's unreasonable for folks to expect Shanahan or anyone else in the organization to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I sadly suspect we will be dealing with Snyder's dysfunctional personality until he dies or sells the team. Scot is doing a good job of holding things together. I hope he can maintain it. I suspect Bruce has a hand in that too. He's had to be the buffer for both Al Davis and Dan Snyder.... Yeesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I suspect Bruce has a hand in that too. He's had to be the buffer for both Al Davis and Dan Snyder.... Yeesh. A hand in what, specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 courtesy the boyz in the twitter thread: 106.7 The Fan @1067theFan 2m2 minutes ago Santana Moss tells @chaddukes Mike Shanahan was "robbed of having more years" with #Redskins. http://washington.cb...s-coaching-job/ “I’m upset to this day about losing Shanahan, because I felt that he had the remedy for us,” Moss said. “Even though we went to one playoff, but we was going to go far with Shanahan. The way he practiced with us, the way he developed that team, the way he showed us how to be pros and how we can be rewarded when we go out there and play together and win games. “I feel like he was robbed of having more years and having more time with that team.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 A hand in what, specifically? Keeping Snyder under control and his involvement less public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Moss feels that way because he would still be on the roster if Shanahan was here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 It is what it is. I hope both guys move on and learn something from this. Griffin has a lot of growing up to do and Shanahan needs to stop being a prick. Neither are perfect. That's life. ...AND Snyder needs to stay out of the ****ing way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 ...AND Snyder needs to stay out of the ****ing way I agree. But it's hard to fault Snyder at this current time when it appears he's taking steps to improve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I agree. But it's hard to fault Snyder at this current time when it appears he's taking steps to improve that. Let's hope. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Let's hope. Seriously. You are too obsessed with Snyder. You should try another hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 You are too obsessed with Snyder. You should try another hobby. Well, you know, he is the owner of the team .... And I think it's a little lazy to call it an obsession. Unless you mean obsessed with the Skins, or competent leadership, or lack of drama. Then yes, I'm obsessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Well, you know, he is the owner of the team .... And I think it's a little lazy to call it an obsession. Unless you mean obsessed with the Skins, or competent leadership, or lack of drama. Then yes, I'm obsessed. Maybe cool it with the erotic charcoal drawings at least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Maybe cool it with the erotic charcoal drawings at least? Maybe I'm not getting the joke here. Charcoal drawings? Keeping Snyder under control and his involvement less public. Perhaps. What is encouraging is that we've seen a marked improvement (albeit just 2 years of data) with Scot. Maybe both him and Bruce together are what the doctor ordered. We'll see - hope we continue in this direction, just a little cynical based on history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I agree. But it's hard to fault Snyder at this current time when it appears he's taking steps to improve that. What??? Where has there been any evidence of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 What??? Where has there been any evidence of that?The fact that we played good NFL football and even looked like a competent franchise for a decent chunk of last season is the best evidence that Dan took a step back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Its time to move on My daughter watches Frozen on loop. I actually was going to post almost the same thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 What??? Where has there been any evidence of that? Are you joking? You haven't seen any evidence? Hmm, how about the fact that he finally let the football people start Kirk cousins? Is that enough evidence for you? If he didn't take a step back, Kirk would not have started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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