Butters20 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Shouldn't draft for pure need when they are multiple needs. However, it doesn't make sense to draft for LT. Doesn't make a ton of sense to draft WR. Not when we have so many other areas that could be addressed, need should be weighted but not absolute. On the same token, doesn't make sense to pass a once a decade talent just because you already have someone there. You try to draft for the areas in which you have the most need, but while not turning a blind eye to the talent available at that pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Shouldn't draft for pure need when they are multiple needs. However, it doesn't make sense to draft for LT. Doesn't make a ton of sense to draft WR. I'd throw the caveat that it doesn't make sense to target a WR1 or a LT ... but we do need depth at WR and OT ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoox Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I would move DeAngelo Hall to safety in this chart - it's likely that with the injury (and second setback), he won't be able to play corner anymore. And at his money, he has to start. Not that he's the ideal safety either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Top 10 picks should be spend on edge rushers, dominant inside d tackles, left and right tackles, phenom WR/CB/LB (which don't exist this year) or a QB. I'd never take a Guard, Safety, Inside Linebacker, Center, Full Back, Running Back or Tight End in the top 10. I would move DeAngelo Hall to safety in this chart - it's likely that with the injury (and second setback), he won't be able to play corner anymore. And at his money, he has to start. Not that he's the ideal safety either... Do you put Dhall at safety or use Dhall, Amerson and Breeland as your three corners with Porter coming in as the dime? It's not automatic that DHall excels at Safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Top 10 picks should be spend on edge rushers, dominant inside d tackles, left and right tackles, phenom WR/CB/LB (which don't exist this year) or a QB. You sure? Cooper is pretty damn talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 You sure? Cooper is pretty damn talented. Yeah, I'm not sure on him, he's the one exception. I don't think Landon Collins is an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'd throw the caveat that it doesn't make sense to target a WR1 or a LT ... but we do need depth at WR and OT ... Agreed, I think the ONLY position that would make no sense to draft with #5 is LT. I could see WR, (though I wouldn't advocate it) if that's the BPA by a mile, can't trade down, and then you release/trade Garcon to save on cap. I also wouldn't draft an OLB if we're in the 3-4. Other than that, take the best guy, because there are needs everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitejimmy Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I guess we've had some moves lately. Can we get this updated? It's a very helpful thread. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Give me a few days. Monday I will have it updated for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 You sure? Cooper is pretty damn talented. Agree 100% with Dawg. AC is BPA at #5 assuming KW goes to raiders. He ranks up there with Green and Jones. You don't pass on such talent which comes every 10 years. Need him in Division to go up against Beckham and Bryant. Skins are in Total re-build mode ... and you start to build a great Defense by first getting great "offensive" players to create TOP capacity. In this Draft ... all of the defensive players (Beasley, Shelton, Gregory, Ray, Fowler, etc) are "Rapkos" or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 I think it's up to date. Let me know if I have to make changes anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I think it's up to date. Let me know if I have to make changes anywhere. Chris Thompson would be #3 at RB I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 IIRC Scott said round 1-4 BPA and you can start targeting players after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownRocks111 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 IIRC Scott said round 1-4 BPA and you can start targeting players after that. So if Mariota is available at #5, you take him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Chris Thompson would be #3 at RB I believe. He's not under contract, is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 ...So if Mariota is available at #5, you take him?He wouldn't be the BPA. QB "value" is inflated due to their position.Throwing out BPA and depending on the view of Jay/Scott/Bruce about our current QBs I could see a situation where they would pull the trigger if they see him as a potential franchise QB and no longer view the current QBs that way. Even aside from all that I don't think Oregon's style of offense meshes smoothly with Jay's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I would move DeAngelo Hall to safety in this chart - it's likely that with the injury (and second setback), he won't be able to play corner anymore. And at his money, he has to start. Not that he's the ideal safety either... Personally, I would be shocked if we got anything out of DHall this year. His career in the league is on the precipice, let alone him playing corner. I can't believe there's another player that's come back from two achilles tears on the same leg. If we see him at all, it won't be until the second half of the season after they decide to stash him on whatever ****amamie injury list that's suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters20 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Personally, I would be shocked if we got anything out of DHall this year. His career in the league is on the precipice, let alone him playing corner. I can't believe there's another player that's come back from two achilles tears on the same leg. If we see him at all, it won't be until the second half of the season after they decide to stash him on whatever ****amamie injury list that's suitable. I think Jason Peters did...but he is OL not DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Looking at a couple of 2015 draft rankings, and figuring a BPA plan, here is a list of the guys ranked in the 4-9 overall range at this point. Brandon Scherff Iowa 6'5" 315 ROT Amari Cooper Alabama 6'1" 205 WR Randy Gregory Nebraska 6'5" 255 DE Vic Beasley Clemson 6'3" 235 34OLB Shane Ray Missouri 6'3" 245 DE Landon Collins Alabama 6'0" 215 SS Figuring that both of the big QBs go before 5 we should be able to get one of these guys. Outside of the WR I think any one of these guys could fill a hole for us. I don't follow college football enough to know if any of these guys would be sexy enough that someone would want to give a nice package of picks to move up and get him. I like the way you're thinking, but you left Kevin White WR from WV off that list. He's a sleeper for us I think. (Unless he ascends to like pick 3-4.. :/ Honestly, I think we might be able to get the Pocono Punisher back as depth at NT. Yes he had a fluke injury again, but if he comes back from it strong.....I could be good depth behind Baker. And you know he'll have a chip on his shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Tyler Larsen should be listed under Center, not Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokenstriker Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 different look at it ... how they were acquired (initial perceived value) and when. Number is when they were selected in the draft (which pick). Bold is a starter from last season. Italics is a key role player from last season. * indicates injury issues. I may have missed some. Burgundy indicates a Redskins draft pick. 2015 UDFA Braylon Bell UDFA Kenneth Horsley 2014 47 Trent Murphy - OLB 66 Morgan Moses - OT 78 Spencer Long 102 Bashaud Breeland - CB 142 Ryan Grant - WR UDFA Jerry Rice, Jr. UDFA Silas Redd - RB UDFA Colin Lockett UDFA Tyler Larson UDFA Chase Dixon UDFA Je'Ronn Hamm UDFA Courtney Bridget, Jr UDFA Trey Wolfe UDFA Robert Thomas UDFA LaKendrick Ross UDFA Jackson Jeffcoat UDFA James Gayle UDFA Akeem Davis - ST 2013 51 David Amerson - CB 85 Jordan Reed* - TE 119 Phillip Thomas* - S 124 Trevardo Williams 235 Steve Beauharnais UDFA Will Compton - ILB UDFA Michael Hill UDFA Rashad Ross UDFA Kenny Okoro UDFA Ja'Gerad Davis 2012 2 Robert Griffin III - QB 71 Josh LeRibeus - OG 102 Kirk Cousins - QB 119 Keenan Robinson - ILB 173 Alfred Morris - RB 249 Travian Robertson UDFA Edawn Coughman UDFA Rishaw Johnson 2011 16 Ryan Kerrigan - OLB 140 Gabe Miller 206 Justin Rogers 231 Frank Kearse UDFA Isaako Aaitui 2010 4 Trent Williams - LT 88 Andre Roberts - WR 92 Shawn Lauvao - LG 103 Perry Riley - ILB 134 Ricky Sapp 252 Austin Spitler UDFA Logan Paulsen - TE UDFA Da'Mon Cromartie-Smith 2009 217 EJ Biggers - CB 244 Ricky Jean Francois UDFA Chris Baker - DT UDFA Darrell Young - FB UDFA Ty Nsekhe 2008 40 Tracy Porter 49 Desean Jackson - WR 108 Kory Lichtensteiger - C 205 Pierre Garcon - WR 2007 184 Adam Hayward 196 Kedric Golston - DT 2006 56 Chris Chester - RG 92 Jason Hatcher - DE 2005 2004 8 DeAngelo Hall - CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Updated w/Paea signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitejimmy Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Thanks. We can add Niles Paul and Trenton Robinson back, too. Looking over the depth charts now, I really think we're only a dozen or so players away from respectability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Updated. Your a dozen or so names away from respectability had me laugh out loud. It was meant in such a positive way, but it's so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Acre Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I didn't realize how bad our OL was until I saw the list. It's not a line, it's a couple of points (by probably giving Lich too much credit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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