I want to sue the republican party for willful denial of scientific evidence about climate change.

[China]

Well, I guess we're screwed...

 

Fate of ‘sleeping giant’ East Antarctic ice sheet ‘in our hands’ – study

 

Melting of the world’s biggest ice sheet would cause catastrophic sea level rise, but can be avoided with fast climate action

 

The fate of the world’s biggest ice sheet rests in the hands of humanity, a new analysis has shown. If global heating is limited to 2C, the vast East Antarctic ice sheet should remain stable, but if the climate crisis drives temperatures higher, melting could drive up sea level by many metres.

 

The East Antarctic ice sheet (EAIS) holds the vast majority of Earth’s glacier ice. Sea levels would rise by 52 metres if it all melted. It was thought to be stable, but is now showing signs of vulnerability, the scientists said.

 

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[Recovering_Spaz]

33 minutes ago, China said:

Well, I guess we're screwed...

 

Fate of ‘sleeping giant’ East Antarctic ice sheet ‘in our hands’ – study

 

Melting of the world’s biggest ice sheet would cause catastrophic sea level rise, but can be avoided with fast climate action

 

The fate of the world’s biggest ice sheet rests in the hands of humanity, a new analysis has shown. If global heating is limited to 2C, the vast East Antarctic ice sheet should remain stable, but if the climate crisis drives temperatures higher, melting could drive up sea level by many metres.

 

The East Antarctic ice sheet (EAIS) holds the vast majority of Earth’s glacier ice. Sea levels would rise by 52 metres if it all melted. It was thought to be stable, but is now showing signs of vulnerability, the scientists said.

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

The map for that kind of sea level rise is sobering. The map is courtesy of https://www.floodmap.net/

 

 

Edited August 10, 2022 by Recovering_Spaz
Adjusted for meters

[Fan since a Fetus]

America has gone limp in that pic

[tshile]

3 hours ago, Recovering_Spaz said:

 

The map for that kind of sea level rise is sobering. The map is courtesy of https://www.floodmap.net/

 

 

Gets rid of our Florida problem 

[FLSkinz83]

2 hours ago, tshile said:

Gets rid of our Florida problem 

 

That's not nice.   

[PokerPacker]

8 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said:

That's not nice.   

[FLSkinz83]

I guess Nantucket, Martha's Vineyard will be gone as well.   

[tshile]

Yeah and I get ocean front property or at least like a 25 minute drive max. 
 

This sounds like a win to me 

[China]

Many in US doubt their own impact on climate

 

Americans are less concerned now about how climate change might impact them personally—and about how their personal choices affect the climate—than they were three years ago, a new poll shows, even as a wide majority still believe climate change is happening.

 

The June Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll, which was conducted before Congress passed the Inflation Reduction Act on Friday, shows majorities of U.S. adults think the government and corporations have a significant responsibility to address climate change. The new law will invest nearly $375 billion in climate strategies over the next decade.

 

Overall, 35% of U.S. adults say they are "extremely" or "very" concerned about the impact of climate change on them personally, down from 44% in August 2019. Another third say they are somewhat concerned. Only about half say their actions have an effect on climate change, compared with two-thirds in 2019.

 

Black and Hispanic Americans, women and Democrats are especially likely to be strongly concerned about the impact of climate change on them personally and about how their personal choices affect the climate.

 

Many climate scientists told The Associated Press that the shifts are concerning but not surprising given that individuals are feeling overwhelmed by a range of issues, now including an economy plagued by inflation after more than two years of a pandemic. In addition to being outpaced by other issues, climate change or the environment are mentioned as priorities by fewer Americans now than just a few years ago, according to the poll.

 

Click on the link for the full article

[China]

Experts warn California of a disaster 'larger than any in world history.' It's not an earthquake.

 

Megadrought may be the main weather concern across the West right now amid the constant threat of wildfires and earthquakes. But a new study warns another crisis is looming in California: "Megafloods."

 

Climate change is increasing the risk of floods that could submerge cities and displace millions of people across the state, according to a study released Friday.

 

It says that an extreme monthlong storm could bring feet of rain – in some places, more than 100 inches – to hundreds of miles of California. Similarly unrelenting storms have happened in the past, before the region became home to tens of millions of people.

 

Now, each degree of global warming is dramatically increasing the odds and size of the next megaflood, the study says.

 

When floods hit in a warmer planet, “the storm sequence is bigger in almost every respect,” said Daniel Swain, UCLA climate scientist and co-author of the study, in a news release. “There’s more rain overall, more intense rainfall on an hourly basis and stronger wind.”

 

In fact, the study found that climate change makes such catastrophic flooding twice as likely to occur.

 

Swain said that such massive statewide floods have occurred every century or two in California over the past millennia, and today's risk of such events has been substantially underestimated.

 

Long before climate change, California’s Great Flood of 1862 stretched up to 300 miles long and 60 miles across. According to the study, a similar flood now would displace 5 million to 10 million people, cut off the state’s major freeways for perhaps weeks or months with massive economic damage, and submerge major Central Valley cities as well as parts of Los Angeles.

 

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[China]

China is seeding clouds to replenish its shrinking Yangtze River

 

Chinese planes are firing rods into the sky to bring more rainfall to its crucial Yangtze River, which has dried up in parts, as swaths of the nation fall into drought and grapple with the worst heat wave on record.

 

Several regions on the Yangtze have launched weather modification programs, but with cloud cover too thin, operations in some drought-ravaged parts of the river's basin have remained on standby.

The Ministry of Water Resources said in a notice on Wednesday that drought throughout the Yangtze river basin was "adversely affecting drinking water security of rural people and livestock, and the growth of crops."

On Wednesday, central China's Hubei province became the latest to announce it would seed clouds, using silver iodide rods to induce rainfall.

The silver iodide rods -- which are typically the size of cigarettes -- are shot into existing clouds to help form ice crystals. The crystals then help the cloud produce more rain, making its moisture content heavier and more likely to be released.

Cloud seeding has been in practice since the 1940s and China has the biggest program in the world. It used seeding ahead of the Beijing Olympics in 2008 to ensure dry weather for the event, and the technique can also be used to induce snowfall or to soften hail.

 

At least 4.2 million people in Hubei have been affected by a severe drought since June, Hubei's Provincial Emergency Management Department said Tuesday. More than 150,000 people there have difficulties accessing drinking water, and nearly 400,000 hectares of crops have been damaged because of high temperatures and drought.

The Yangtze is just one of many rivers and lakes across the northern hemisphere that are drying up and shrinking amid relentless heat and low rainfall, including Lake Mead in the US and the Rhine River in Germany. These extreme weather conditions have been supercharged by the human-induced climate crisis, driven by burning fossil fuels.

 

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[China]

Yangtze shrinks as China's drought disrupts industry

 

Ships crept down the middle of the Yangtze on Friday after China's driest summer in six decades left one of the mightiest rivers barely half its normal width and set off a scramble to contain the damage to a weak economy in a politically sensitive year.

 

 

Factories in Sichuan province and the adjacent metropolis of Chongqing in the southwest were ordered to shut down after reservoirs that supply hydropower fell to half their normal levels and demand for air conditioning surged in scorching temperatures.

 

River ferries in Chongqing that usually are packed with sightseers were empty and tied to piers beside mudflats that stretched as much as 50 meters (50 yards) from the normal shoreline to the depleted river's edge. Smaller ships sailed down the middle of the Yangtze, one of China's biggest trade channels, but no large cargo ships could be seen.

 

Normally bustling streets were empty after temperatures hit 45 degrees Celsius (113 degrees Fahrenheit) in Chongqing on Thursday. State media said that was the hottest in China outside the desert region of Xinjiang in the northwest since official records began in 1961.

 

“We cannot live through this summer without air conditioning," said Chen Haofeng, 22, who was taking pictures of the exposed riverbed. “Nothing can cool us down.”

 

Click on the link for the full article

[CobraCommander]

On 8/10/2022 at 3:00 PM, Recovering_Spaz said:

 

The map for that kind of sea level rise is sobering. The map is courtesy of https://www.floodmap.net/

 

 

 

It sure is. And yet the thought of having oceanfront property along with losing Florida as a state makes me oddly at ease.

Edited August 21, 2022 by CobraCommander

[China]

In the US drought reveals dead bodies.  In China you get 600 year old Buddhist statues:

 

 Yangtze River waters reveal Buddhist statues

 

Plunging water levels of the Yangtze River have revealed a submerged island in China's southwestern city of Chongqing and a trio of Buddhist statues on it that are believed to be 600 years old, state media Xinhua has reported.

 

The three statues were found on the highest part of the island reef called Foyeliang, initially identified as built during the Ming and Qing dynasties. One of the statues depicts a monk sitting on a lotus pedestal.

The Yangtze's water levels have been falling rapidly due to a drought and a heatwave in China's southwestern region.

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

 

[tshile]

See! It used to be like this!

 

 

[China]

Nearly every marine species will be at risk of extinction within 78 years if greenhouse gas emissions are not limited, study finds

 

A new study paints a shocking picture of the fate of marine life if human contributions to climate change are not curbed. If greenhouse gases continue to be emitted at high rates, by the end of the century — just 78 years away — nearly every marine species could face extinction, researchers found. 

 

The study, published in Nature Climate Change on Monday, analyzed how roughly 25,000 species will be able to cope under a variety of emissions scenarios that have been illustrated by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. 

 

In a guest post for Carbon Brief, study authors Daniel Boyce and Derek Tittensor wrote that "climate change is rewiring marine ecosystems at an alarming rate" and that their work essentially created a "climate report card" for marine life. 

 

"Just as a report card grades students on subjects such as maths and science, we used a data-driven approach to score individual species on 12 specific climate risk factors in all parts of the ocean where they live," they said. 

 

Under the highest emissions scenario, called SSP5-8.5, current carbon dioxide emissions would be doubled by 2050. 

 

Following this pathway, the world could expect to be up to 5.7ªC (more than 42ºF) warmer by the end of the century compared to pre-industrial times — spurring more agricultural issues, devastating natural disasters and forced migration, scientists said. According to the study, this scenario would put about 90% of marine life in the upper 100 meters of the ocean at high or critical risk of extinction. 

 

The species most threatened are the largest predators, particularly those that are hunted by people for food, such as tunas and sharks. Endemic species, those that are found in a single geographic area, are also much more vulnerable.

 

"The findings also suggest severe knock-on impacts for people who rely on the ocean the most," Boyce and Tittensor said. 

 

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[tshile]

When we get to the pearly gates and ask god why, why didn’t you do something. He’ll say
“I sent you the native Americans to show you how to respectfully live off the land. 
 

You massacred them.”

[TheGreatBuzz]

Meh.  I'll be dead by then.

[China]

Nearly 40 years ago:

 

 

[China]

On 8/22/2022 at 6:04 PM, China said:

In the US drought reveals dead bodies.  In China you get 600 year old Buddhist statues:

 

 Yangtze River waters reveal Buddhist statues

 

The three statues were found on the highest part of the island reef called Foyeliang, initially identified as built during the Ming and Qing dynasties. One of the statues depicts a monk sitting on a lotus pedestal.

The Yangtze's water levels have been falling rapidly due to a drought and a heatwave in China's southwestern region.

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

 

 

And in Spain you get "The Stonehenge of Spain":

 

'Spanish Stonehenge' emerges from drought-hit dam

 

A brutal summer has caused havoc for many in rural Spain, but one unexpected side-effect of the country's worst drought in decades has delighted archaeologists -- the emergence of a prehistoric stone circle in a dam whose waterline has receded.

Officially known as the Dolmen of Guadalperal but dubbed the Spanish Stonehenge, the circle of dozens of megalithic stones is believed to date back to 5000 BC.

It currently sits fully exposed in one corner of the Valdecanas reservoir, in the central province of Caceres, where authorities say the water level has dropped to 28% of capacity.

 

 

Click on the link for the full article

[Larry]

3 hours ago, China said:

 

 

 

Didn't Sergio Leone film a Clint Eastwood gunfight there?  

[China]

1 hour ago, Larry said:

Didn't Sergio Leone film a Clint Eastwood gunfight there?  

 

 

[China]

Americans keep moving to where the water isn’t

 

Even with the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act — which, name aside, is the most ambitious piece of climate-related legislation ever passed by Congress — the US is locked into decades of rising temperatures and more extreme weather. Just how warm it will get will depend on how quickly we can reduce carbon emissions and how sensitive the climate proves to be, but average global temperature increases of between 2 and 3 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial norms seem most likely, with some regions experiencing much worse extremes.

Nonetheless, Americans are responding to these forecasts by moving in large numbers to some of the hottest, driest, and most vulnerable parts of the country.

 

According to an analysis published earlier this month by the Economic Innovation Group, 10 of the 15 counties last year were in the water-strained Southwest. Since 2012, an additional 2.8 million people have moved to counties that spent the majority of the past decade under “severe” to “exceptional” drought conditions.

 

Leading the way in growth was Maricopa County in Arizona, home to Phoenix, a desert metropolis that receives more sunshine than any other major city on Earth — and averages more than 110 days with highs of at least 100°F. Average temperatures in Phoenix are already 2.5°F hotter than they were in the middle of the last century, which helps explain why there were 338 heat-associated deaths last year in Maricopa County.

 

Despite that — and despite worse to come — the population in Maricopa increased by 14 percent over the last decade, to nearly 4.5 million people. A similar pattern is at work in states like Florida and South Carolina that experience high storm and flood risk, or in states like Colorado and Idaho that face major wildfire risk. Altogether, according to an analysis from the real-estate site Redfin, the 50 US counties with the largest share of homes facing high climate and extreme weather risk all experienced positive net migration on average between 2016 and 2020.

 

On the flip side, the 50 US counties with the biggest share of homes facing the lowest climate and extreme weather risk, like Onondaga County in upstate New York, largely experienced net negative migration during the same years on average.

 

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[China]

Americans are convinced climate action is unpopular. They’re very, very wrong.

 

It can be hard to guess what others are thinking. Especially when it comes to climate change. 

 

People imagine that a minority of Americans want action, when it’s actually an overwhelming majority, according to a study recently published in the journal Nature Communications. When asked to estimate public support for measures such as a carbon tax or a Green New Deal, most respondents put the number between 37 and 43 percent. In fact, polling suggests that the real number is almost double that, ranging from 66 to 80 percent. 

 

Across all demographics, people underestimated support for these policies. Democrats guessed slightly higher percentages than Republicans, but were still way off. “Nobody had accurate estimates, on average,” said Gregg Sparkman, a co-author of the study and a professor of psychology at Boston College. “We were shocked at just how ubiquitous this picture was.” 

 

The research was published just two weeks after President Joe Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act, the country’s most ambitious climate legislation to date. Some experts say it could be a turning point. Such sweeping legislation might signal to people that climate policies are popular enough to pass, paving the way for more policies that would help the United States reduce emissions.

 

The new study provides the most thorough look yet at the very meta question of what Americans think other people think about climate action. Sparkman and researchers at Princeton and Indiana University Bloomington surveyed more than 6,000 Americans last spring, asking them to estimate the percentage of people that would support the following policies: instituting a carbon tax that would return revenue to Americans, mandating 100 percent renewable energy by 2035, putting renewable projects on public lands, and adopting a Green New Deal. All the estimates barely topped a third. In fact, at least two-thirds of Americans support all of these policies, according to polling from the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication, and some policies, like renewables on public lands, have the support of four-fifths of the country.

 

But what happens if people aren’t aware of this support? They may think their opinions are unpopular, making them less likely to express those thoughts to their friends and family — which can lead to something called a “spiral of silence.” “People conform to their perception of social norms, even when those perceptions are wrong,” Sparkman said. 

 

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