The Trashman Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Not sure if this has been posted already or not, and if so, pls forgive me. And I don't know of the validity or accuracy of this report but here goes.... From what I’m told, RGIII wants to play in a pro-style offense, rather than run read-option plays all the time. Should work with Jay Gruden The other obvious question is how successful Griffin can be in a conventional offense. Nobody is saying Griffin doesn't have the skills or the acumen to be in a pro-style offense, but he hasn't done it. Assuming the report is legitimate and Gruden doesn't want to alienate his star quarterback as soon as he starts his new job, the Redskins will have a more conventional offense for Griffin to run. And Gruden's success or failure as a NFL coach will be largely determined by how successful Griffin is in that kind of system. This could be another splice and dice media hatchet job and if so, it would be a shame on them. But if it is true, then it would be interesting to see if (1) Gruden acquiesces to it and (2) if Griffin will be successful running an offense that is not read-option based. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/robert-griffin-iii-wants-play-pro-style-offense-204506917--nfl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Just build an offense that caters to RG3's strengths. Give defenses DIFFERENT looks. Don't be so predictable. I think Jay is going to do wonders for RG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeDinNYC Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 how about running a hybrid offense? jeez... why does it have to be black or white?... let's see something new! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I want him to play in a pro-style offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Griffin doesn't need the RO to thrive, though it's a nice thing to keep in your back pocket if you need it. He really plays great in a run-heavy system that emphasizes the PA pass...but there's no telling how well he can play in more of a spread look. I think half the reason he looked better off PA was because we mainly ran 2 WR routes, which is borderline archaic in today's NFL. Those guys were able to create more separation for him off of PA because of our strong running game. But getting him more receiving options out there from the get-go could easily jump-start his ability to succeed in a more traditional passing offense. The route combos and personnel combos were incredibly simple in Kyle's offense (other than getting cute with a WR in the backfield in the pistol), and mostly only worked when we could run the ball (aka when we were within a score or so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Griffin shined all season in a faster tempo spread shotgun look which shorter/quicker passing routes. That is what I want to see more of. Morris can run on his own and Griffin can pass on his own, neither need the RO to be successful though it is a nice play to break out a handful of times. Gruden runs the RO occasionally so I expect it to continue but it won't be the crutch of the offense the way it was under Kyle/Mike. I am really excited to see the offense Gruden puts together. I doubt it will be the pistol play action based whack ass passing offense we saw so much of the past two years. I think these two guys will be great for each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I hate reports like this 1) Look around the NFL; The read option is all over the place as part of "Pro-style offenses". For example, Cincy event started running some of it 2) Stop with the whole "pro-style" offense notion, as it's basically a worthless word at this point. One could argue the Patriots offense in past years looked as much like a number of "college" offenses, and yet it was plenty successful to the point that I doubt anyone would've called it a none "pro-style" offense. I love how we throatily derided Rob Ryan last year when he down talked a "College offense" and then proceeded to have his PROFESSIONAL players stomped by us; but all of a sudden now we're buying into that notion? If it's working against pros, in the pros, then it's "pro". 3) IF this is true, and I don't know how true it is, then it's a stupid notion by Griffin and one that I hope a good coach can work out of him. Versatility isn't something to be shunned, but embraced. Griffin at one point suggested he didn't want to be pidgin holed...then don't get pidgin holed. Don't be "pocket passer" or a "drop back passer" or a "mobile passer" or a "West coast passer" or a "spread passer" or a "Game manager" or a "gunslinger"....just be a quarterback and make use of all your skills in the best fashion to win. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 But gruden just said he loved the read option. Uh oh we have another coach-qb controversy! Lol, I find it hard to believe rg3 dislikes the read option. He may not want to scramble 100 times a year, but the read option is what will keep him healthier in the long run if he learns to slide. When defensive ends are hesitant to rush upfield it makes it easier for his tackles to block them, even on non-read option plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I'm sort of tired of the pistol. Would like to see more under center and more shotgun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Good. Gruden runs a pro-style, only has a bit of the RO like many teams now do, and it's good to see RG3 doesn't want to just rely on mobility that he wants to take his game to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonJ83 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I like what Jay said about it's going to be hard to characterize what type of offense we run. I think he will develop Robert and aquire more offensive weapons to make this thing succesful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Good. Gruden runs a pro-style, only has a bit of the RO like many teams now do, and it's good to see RG3 doesn't want to just rely on mobility that he wants to take his game to the next level. My thoughts as well. Jay is going to put the guys in the best position to succeed. No more head banging against the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Oh sports media. You ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins2victory Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I would be very surprised if there is any truth to this. Robert is a smart kid, he would know better than to start off the new coaches first day with comments like this. If Robert really doesn't want to run the option, i'm sure he would have conversations about it with the new coach behind closed doors. Come on media, the Shannahan's are gone, we are done with the circus act around here. Lets take the made up stories else where. We are ready to play ball again in D.C. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMVLeGenD Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I don't believe Robert said this, but when Robert was taking a lot of snaps from under center the first few games of the season, he was getting killed in the pocket. If we overhaul our O-Line, there's an argument for it, but the RO should still be apart of the offense IMO, but used in more spread formations ala Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I'm sort of tired of the pistol. Would like to see more under center and more shotgun I think the pistol is great, especially with Alfred. Cooley has also been talking about how the Colts started giving Luck more spread formatons, which helped tip off coverages. He is able to make a very quick pre snap read and go to it right away. Gruden sounds like he is not married to any particular system, so I look forward to seeing what he comes up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWolf990 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 The Pistol is a great formation, how can anyone be tired of it? Peyton Manning has lined up out of the pistol this year. So has Tom Brady. Many teams use it. What the offense needs is variety, but im confident RG3 can run any offense. As long as he believes in his knee, he will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADF Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 The key words are "all the time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 “They’re an outside zone blocking team that can do inside zone. I like the power plays. I like the gap blocking plays. So there’s a little bit of everything. I don’t think any offense in the NFL anymore is just, ‘We are this.’ I think we have to adhere to what we have offensively, talent-wise. We can do the read option. We can do naked bootlegs. We can run outside zone. We can run bubble screens. We can run deep balls. We can do play-action deep things. I think the whole idea to be a successful offense is to be diverse and be good at a lot of different things and not just one.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 IF its true doesn't really matter anymore. Regardless of whether Griffin said it or not doesn't matter anymore. Someone else claims Griffin said it and apparently that's enough in the modern media cycle. Nevermind that they are constantly factually wrong. Remember when the whole staff was fired? That was reported as fact. If Griffin comes out and shoots this report down it gives more audience to then this 'report' is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4skins23 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Not sure if RG would have the accuracy for a pro-style offense. If he does, Gruden could possibly do well with RG but if it is a read style offense, I think it will be a gamble. I think the Defense will be 32nd in the league with Gruden as coach and not getting rid of Haslett. DUMB move. Offense does better than the defense and the front office fires the offense. And Who thinks the 'skins are on the right track? ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanka Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Did RG3 really say this or just something manufactured by the media....again. Rg3 is in hawaii right now enjoying his life and staying far away from football. Rg3 will be ready for whatever Gruden wants him to run. I hate how the media likes to make it like Rg3 is only about the read option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Diesel Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Did RG3 really say this or just something manufactured by the media....again. Rg3 is in hawaii right now enjoying his life and staying far away from football. Rg3 will be ready for whatever Gruden wants him to run. I hate how the media likes to make it like Rg3 is only about the read option. Probably his dad talking off the record. Whatever. I'm getting a little weary reading about what RG3 wants and what kind of offense best suits him. I'm ready for him to quietly go abut learning whatever plays he's taught, and then running them successfully when they are called. I know, that's a novel idea and all but I really think he can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBull Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 With quarterbacks like Foles and Dalton doing read option how can a team with RG3 not incorporate it at all? Doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I think it would be shrewd for Griffin and his PR to take a more proactive approach to the 'reports'. Even though addresses every false report would be futile they can't be tone deaf to reports that have potential to be damaging. In Griff next interview I would make sure he slips in a sentence or 2 that completes nullify the non-sense in a report like this: ~I am excited to be working with our new HC Jay Gruden. I look forward to learning and mastering every aspect of this offense from read-option to drop back footwork. etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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