Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 ..... Does make me wonder though who Gruden might be looking at for the RBs coach, Darn exciting times in store though huh? New staff. FA. The draft. The whole gambit. This is gona' be one heck of a fun late winter/ spring through summer. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Welp, since it's already established that Bruce is using the fraternity.com search method, I guess you put Joe Berry's name in there too, for DC. Don't know him from Adam and don't know if he's any good, but we have an established track record here with Bruce. Might as well keep making it a family affair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 There appears to be assumption in place that anyone that is hired with no prior band experience would mesh perfectly with Gruden and with what he wants to do. The grass is not always greener. Look at the the list of failed DCs here and across the league. These are respected people. Sure its fun to munch on some new grass, but it may give you bad ___. For some reason, Haslett retained doesn't scare me. Ripping control back from Mike was my top priority, and then getting someone in place wanting to work with RG3 was the second priority. Lowest priority was to blindly just fire everyone. Its mission accomplished. If he is as bad as his total yards allowed defensive rankings say he is, he will be gone soon enough, perhaps even mid season. Maybe even sooner. We have an interesting dynamic in place currently, this guy hired that one, that one fired this one, but clearly avoiding all of those types of hires in the past has yielded this. Little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan4128 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 You better believe it. My son and I are constantly looking for updates on the coaching staff and looking towards FA. I wasn't exactly enamored with the Gruden hire, but didn't necessarily think it was a bad decision either. As I've watched the pressers and read more about him, I've definitely warmed up to him. He seems to have the "it" factor that I want in the new HC. Only time will tell, but I'm definitely excited. I'm curious as to who he might be considering to replace Turner. As I said before, he seemed like one of the few holdovers from the Shanny dictatorship that might remain. Hightower being shown the door comes as no surprise. Haz and Morris are red flags to me, and the whole "we've worked together before" idea doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. That said, who would you look at as potential fits at RB and ST coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Oh heck. I wouldn't even like to speculate skins, but I've always liked Earnest Byner. Did some great work here with CP and :Ladell freaking Betts when he went down, and has continued it with CJ2K, MJD, and the Buccs back who's name escapes me. Dude out of Boise State last year. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Bobby Turner out per Chris Russell. That sucks. He did a phenomenal job with our backs.Hightower out. Turner comment was speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasthunder Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Chris Russell @Russellmania9806m A name that could have helped #Redskins RT @JohnMiddlekauff: My sources say #Raiders Special Teams coach Bobby April will return, done deal. Expand Rich Tandler @Rich_TandlerCSN 48m More surprising that Bobby Turner was kept for 2 weeks than word that he got fired. Good coach but a Shanahan guy all the way. #RedskinsTalk Rich Tandler @Rich_TandlerCSN45m Turner one of the best at coaching zone runners. Does his firing mean the end of the ZBS for the #Redskins? #RedskinsTalk #thinkingoutloud Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 How are people citing ESPN980 as the source that Turner was let go when Russell SPECULATED that he'll be let go? The only thing he reported was that Hightower was out. He said that he Chris Russell thinks Bobby will be let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 How are people citing ESPN980 as the source that Turner was let go when Russell SPECULATED that he'll be let go? The only thing he reported was that Hightower was out. He said that he Chris Russell thinks Bobby will be let go. *Puts an arm around dg. 'It'll be alright man. He'll have someone just as good if not better lined up. You'll get through this. We have your back.' Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 For some reason, Haslett retained doesn't scare me. Well, its scares the **** out of me. Our defense was historically incompetent last year. I still can't believe that people are trying to justify keeping Haslett. It's borderline certifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan4128 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Earnest Byner would be a great return for us. As you said, he did a great job with our backs when he was with the team. And just who is this Betts you speak of? Just saw that ST coach April is resigning with Oakland. Would have liked to see him head up our STs. I believe at we looked at him at some point in the past. As long as Burned toast isn't here, I call that a victory. I'm interested in seeing how Gruden fills out this coaching staff. His "I've gotten about 350 texts" comment was intriguing to say the least. I'd love to see a few names off the list or quite possibly who a few coaches are that have already interviewed with Gruden to this point. And I'd love to see a few guys like perhaps Wade Phillips interviewed for the DC. I'd think it'd be a travesty if Gruden just handed the reigns over to Haz without at least combing through a few potential DCs that are available as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Well, its scares the **** out of me. Our defense was historically incompetent last year. I still can't believe that people are trying to justify keeping Haslett. It's borderline certifiable. What else do we have to do with our day other than justify our teams actions, would you rather organize a flash mob social media based protest at HQ? Or just complain here for the next 12 months before and after every TD allowed. I still can't believe that people were trying to justify keeping Shanahan. It's borderline certifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan4128 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 It's the media, DG. Didn't you know? As much as I supported Turner returning, it's not a shock that he would be let go. Truth is (as a lot of folks have pointed out), he is a Shanny guy. It's quite possible that Gruden doesn't want those guys on his staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 ..... I still can't believe that people were trying to justify keeping Shanahan. It's borderline certifiable. And the fact that some STILL make excuses for him and blameshift isn't 'borderline' certifiable. It's full blown padded cell and throw away the key bat **** crazy. But mercifully that nightmare is behind us now. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarb Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 But mercifully that nightmare is behind us now. Yes. On to the next nightmare of the Dan Snyder era! Only 25 - 30 more years of this bs to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I am dissapointed to see Forester and Haslett staying but Turner leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I am dissapointed to see Forester and Haslett staying but Turner leaving 'Thus far.' Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 What else do we have to do with our day other than justify our teams actions, would you rather organize a flash mob social media based protest at HQ? Or just complain here for the next 12 months before and after every TD allowed. I still can't believe that people were trying to justify keeping Shanahan. It's borderline certifiable. I never justified keeping Shanny. And I'm one of the biggest homers on here, so I don't think I can be bunched in with the complain about everything crowd. I just think keeping Haslett as DC implies a couple of possibilities. One, Gruden is in over his head and isn't capable of making competent staff hires. I don't believe this is the case. He certainly seems intelligent. Or, Gruden doesn't have as much control over his own staff as we would like to think, and there's someone behind the curtain pulling his strings. Either scenario would suck. I think I'll leave these conversations for now until we find out who his staff is. Let's hope he makes some solid hires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garcon More Wine Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Well, its scares the **** out of me. Our defense was historically incompetent last year. I still can't believe that people are trying to justify keeping Haslett. It's borderline certifiable. he literally has a horrible track record. hes never had sustained success anywhere. at anything. yet were keeping him. wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Mike Munchak for O-line. He's interviewed with Houston already. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000311529/article/mike-munchak-reportedly-will-interview-with-texans Ok little doggies, Mike Munchak is still out there. He finished his interview in Houston on Friday, which was specifically as O-Line coach and apparently he interviewed today, Monday, with Cleveland. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000312751/article/mike-munchak-interviewing-with-cleveland-browns Now the interview in Cleveland, today, has been referenced, rumored, as for the HC job. Seriously, I'm guessing here, but I don't think he's a serious candidate for HC since his career has been with one organization, he's largely been a longtime O-Line coach and had just a brief experience with HC there in Tennessee. I don't think he's going to be offered a HC gig, for 2014 at least. I believe folks are trying to get themselves a solid O-Line coach, not a HC. This man is a certified O-Line Guru. And for the record, Munchak does exactly what Jay Jay wants to do with the O-Line, be multiple. MM has a diverse scheme. You'll get Gap and Zone scheme together and he likes the backside pulling Guard, "power" play, a lot -- which Jay Jay uses a ton, himself. MM has lots of nuances to his deployment. At first you'll get an Outside Zone stretch for nearly each run, for the first couple series and just when you, as a defense, say to yourself: "alright, Munchack wants to get us moving horizontally, he wants own the edge and create some cutback," Munchack will call a backside pulling Guard, power kickout, with Gap control scheme on the backside and just obliterate the C-Gap. Then he'll go about giving some Inside Zone and then right back to Gap scheme. These two guys, Munchak and Jay Jay, would be a perfect marriage. There's obviously competition for this man as an O-Line coach. Munchak, himself, may still fancy a chance at being a HC. There could be an "arms race" to get him. Now, call him up for an interview, maybe add the offer of "associate - something-another" in addition to the O-Line Coach title, to sweeten the pot. Call him the "Run Game Coordinator, Associate Offensive Game Planner / O-Line Coach," whatever. Let's bust out the selling apparatus Bruce: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasthunder Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 JsteelzHttr24-7 @JsteelznSkins31m Morris not fired, but told he will not be D Coord. Contract up in Feb and he can test waters. But he is welcome back if he wants Expand ESPN 980 also reported that special teams and defensive backs assistant Richard Hightower also will not return to the Redskins. The Washington Post reports that offensive line assistant coach Chris Morgan also will not be back. http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/report-redskins-fire-3-including-rb-coach-turner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinjarra Rouge Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 All my positive vibes about th Gruden hire are being negated at the moment until i know that Haslett will not be th D coach. If he remains the D coach that will be the worst possible start to JGru,s era, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 JsteelzHttr24-7 @JsteelznSkins31m Morris not fired, but told he will not be D Coord. Contract up in Feb and he can test waters. But he is welcome back if he wants Expand ESPN 980 also reported that special teams and defensive backs assistant Richard Hightower also will not return to the Redskins. The Washington Post reports that offensive line assistant coach Chris Morgan also will not be back. http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/report-redskins-fire-3-including-rb-coach-turner Good to know Raheem won't be in charge of the D. I wouldn't be upset to see him gone permanently. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Maybe Haz is a fallback in Gruden can't get his LB coach from Cincy as DC or someone else he's interested in. Haz did give him his first OC job so i can see him keeping Haz in some fashion if not even the DC but more of a confidant and trusted advisor in his first year. I can certainly live with that as they've worked well together before and it would be a class move for the pupil to the teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinjarra Rouge Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Maybe Haz is a fallback in Gruden can't get his LB coach from Cincy as DC or someone else he's interested in. Haz did give him his first OC job so i can see him keeping Haz in some fashion if not even the DC but more of a confidant and trusted advisor in his first year. I can certainly live with that as they've worked well together before and it would be a class move for the pupil to the teacher. Yeah i could live with him in another capacity ,but definately NOT DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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