Commander PK Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 the officials CAN and DO have a direct impact on the game whether you like it or not. Yes they do, because non-calls count as much as the calls in how these games turn out. The Redskins are not a good team. I get it, I understand that, but to say the officials are blameless is downright hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Skins Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 It was bad, both sides had a lot to complain about. But you're in a spot to stop them 4th and goal from the 10 and the d didn't make the stop. That said, the refs probably said they'd let them play; but they let them play too much. Horribly officiated game. That's what you get when you're 3-12. Bad refs, bad calls, no benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 that last minute Tony Romo sits to pee touchdown that the announcers were joygasming over....one of our lineman was tackled to the ground on that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk_Skins Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 This conspiracy stuff is nonsense. If they really wanted to screw us they would have called a penalty on the third down at the end (not that it mattered in the end). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraofSkins08 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 My favorite was the invisible block in the back call on our last kick return. Refs threw it juuuuust in case we got a decent return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchellvii Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Bad calls didn't beat us. 10 yard cushions on 3rd and 3 on the final drive beat us. Receivers wide open in space beat us. Soft zone and prevent defense Haslett style beat us. Letting a receiver drift to the goal line unchallenged on 4th down beat us. Despite the horrific refereeing we still should have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 This is what the Redskins franchise has reduced its fan base to... wretched whiners lashing out at somebody, anybody, to blame for our misery. It's pathetic, sad, and without merit. The missed call on the bomb late in the game was egregious. I mean, their LT tackled our guy. I think it was Jackson? either way, it was pathetic. Dan I have been here a long time by most standards and I always find you're post to be mostly accurate, lol. But I have to say on the one above there is indeed merit to it, the guy above points out the play that really changed the end of the game. FWIW I have coached youth sport(s) for many years and I know officials make mistakes, but these guys are pros and should be better than anyone else at their job. It does plant a seed of doubt as to how the officials want to see the outcome when you skip such a blatant call that is a game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Dan I have been here a long time by most standards and I always find you're post to be mostly accurate, lol. But I have to say on the one above there is indeed merit to it, the guy above points out the play that really changed the end of the game. FWIW I have coached youth sport(s) for many years and I know officials make mistakes, but these guys are pros and should be better than anyone else at their job. It does plant a seed of doubt as to how the officials want to see the outcome when you skip such a blatant call that is a game changer. from the replay I saw, he stone walled Orakpo. I can't find the video but it looked clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I laughed a little bit when they showed a replay of Trent Williams "doing a good job" against Ware. He gave up the inside to Ware and ended up somewhat tackling the guy...or...I'm sorry: "going to the ground with Ware in his arms" the refs didn't call anything against Trent Williams on that play. They called blatant egregious penalties on both teams. It isn't the refs fault that Will Montgomery developed Parkinson's disease while getting ready to snap the ball all day. They called the Cowboys when they blatantly went off-sides multiple times. There were only two calls I saw in Dallas' favor which were not reciprocated in similar but reversed circumstances later in the game. Our KR team touches a guy in the side of his shoulder pads and he falls down, illegal block in the back. PR almost TD to start the game for Dallas, one of our gunners gets the same sort of side push where I'm fairly certain it was mainly back, and I know for a fact I saw a hand on jersey numbers which broke a Dallas player for a huge play, and nothing was called. Josh Wilson touches a Dallas WR's arm for about 1.5 seconds and releases prior to a badly overthrown pass sailing 15 yards away from them and out of bounds on what would have been a key stop. Instead it was defensive holding or illegal contact. Later in the game at a number of points I saw the same level of contact, some tripping, and a few passes where the defender got there early for the tackle, and nothing was called. I don't point to a conspiracy theory though. I think the referees just suck. They have sucked in games where we're playing other bad teams and it doesn't matter. They'll suck next week against the Giants even though neither team has anything to prove. I think it is very sad that these same refs which held out last season and who are supposed to be professionals at this are so sloppy and inconsistent. I think of them like umpires in baseball- I never cared if an ump had a wide, tight, short, or tall strike zone as a batter. I only cared that they called their strike zone consistently for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I don't point to a conspiracy theory though. I think the referees just suck. They have sucked in games where we're playing other bad teams and it doesn't matter. They'll suck next week against the Giants even though neither team has anything to prove. I think it is very sad that these same refs which held out last season and who are supposed to be professionals at this are so sloppy and inconsistent. I think of them like umpires in baseball- I never cared if an ump had a wide, tight, short, or tall strike zone as a batter. I only cared that they called their strike zone consistently for both teams. Absolutely agree with that. I just hate to see a bad call on a crucial play of the game. from the replay I saw, he stone walled Orakpo. I can't find the video but it looked clean disagree from what I remember, I had four pics but lost the first three, the above pic was on the Dez long completion. ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffmark1 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 every call against the Cowboys was earned. Some of the calls or lack thereof for the Redskins makes me sort of buy into the NFL agenda. Also have you ever noticed they take TV time outs when we are driving? Like when Morris broke off that huge run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswillwin06 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I just watched Richard Sherman intercept Carson Palmer and then spike the ball towards the crowd. Where is the delay of game flag that Josh Wilson got for doing the same thing after the fumble recovery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 every call against the Cowboys was earned. Some of the calls or lack thereof for the Redskins makes me sort of buy into the NFL agenda. Also have you ever noticed they take TV time outs when we are driving? Like when Morris broke off that huge run. Um. what? There are no tv timeouts during a drive without a timeout, turnover, etc. I just watched Richard Sherman intercept Carson Palmer and then spike the ball towards the crowd. Where is the delay of game flag that Josh Wilson got for doing the same thing after the fumble recovery? He got a penalty? are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD2 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I just watched Richard Sherman intercept Carson Palmer and then spike the ball towards the crowd. Where is the delay of game flag that Josh Wilson got for doing the same thing after the fumble recovery? Wilson didn't get flagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SicEm10 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Enough with the excuses. This loss falls on one player. Who might that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswillwin06 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Wilson didn't get flagged. T.Romo sits to pee pass short right to T.Clutts to DAL 28 for 4 yards (J.Wilson). FUMBLES (J.Wilson), RECOVERED by WAS-J.Wilson at DAL 28. J.Wilson to DAL 28 for no gain (T.Clutts). PENALTY on WAS-J.Wilson, Defensive Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at DAL 28. http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=331222028&period=3 The broadcast for some reason made no mention of this, but you could see the flag on the ground and hear the ref make the announcement while the commentators were blabbering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Fellas, at some point the finger needs to be pointed towards the team. We lost today. It's really as simple as that. Teams that continually blame officials will never allow themselves to strengthen their weaknesses, because they rely on a crutch. We lost. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD2 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I totally missed that flag. My bad, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 T.Romo sits to pee pass short right to T.Clutts to DAL 28 for 4 yards (J.Wilson). FUMBLES (J.Wilson), RECOVERED by WAS-J.Wilson at DAL 28. J.Wilson to DAL 28 for no gain (T.Clutts). PENALTY on WAS-J.Wilson, Defensive Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at DAL 28. http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=331222028&period=3 The broadcast for some reason made no mention of this, but you could see the flag on the ground and hear the ref make the announcement while the commentators were blabbering. well he did stupidly toss the ball 20 yards down field The call was correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswillwin06 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 well he did stupidly toss the ball 20 yards down field The call was correct. Fully aware. Going back to my original point. Why is there no flag on Richard Sherman for doing the exact same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 well he did stupidly toss the ball 20 yards down field The call was correct. I agree. I did not know that he was penalized for that. They make a big play and then he tosses the ball like a dumb ass. Some of our players are just dumb apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Fully aware. Going back to my original point. Why is there no flag on Richard Sherman for doing the exact same thing? fair question, and for me the answer is two fold. The referees suck in general, AND...the NFL is trying to control the outcome of these games through the referees by calls and no calls at crucial key moments in the games. If they are willing to steal 36 million of our salary cap for violating no rules...who knows what steps they would take in other places to get desired outcomes. I'm not a conspiracy guy, with the exception that when "big money" is involved...the lines between right and wrong always seem to be blurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Fully aware. Going back to my original point. Why is there no flag on Richard Sherman for doing the exact same thing? No idea. But there is no league-wide conspiracy against the Skins. There has been awful calls all day in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 yes, because officials are the paragon of correctness and honesty.. I hate the stupid cliche it's not the officials, it's the team that people like you love to spout around here.. the officials CAN and DO have a direct impact on the game whether you like it or not. Personally, I think some are overreacting a bit on the officiating today. It wasn't THAT bad! Bad, to me, is the horrible call in the Steelers game.Packers had a FG blocked. Guy for Steelers picks up the ball, then laterals it. Ball is rolling on the ground. Doofus Steeler lineman bats it forward. Granted, that's a penalty, BUT they said the Steelers never had possession. GB gets the ball back. Next play Lacy scores. HORRIBLE. And I can't stand the Steelers. Edit: forgot to mention that the officials came up with that ruling after TWO long conferences. It's like EVERY somewhat controversial call ALWAYS goes to the team at home. That **** has GOT to stop! /end rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffmark1 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Um. what? There are no tv timeouts during a drive without a timeout, turnover, etc. Are you sure about that? (hint: loaded question do some research before answering.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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