CrypticVillain Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I always do one warm-up draft for my serious leagues, except this time I forgot I wanted to draft this morning. :doh Here is the results: Stafford Roddy White Maclin Stevie Johnson Ray Rice Doug Martin Vernon Davis Bench: Big Ben Shonn Greene (Bout to cut him) Lance Moore Jermaine Gresham Laurent Robinson David Akers - K DEF: Pats and Feagles (Bout to drop one and get my skins) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Not a bad haul there ML! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 As I said, I run a fantasy team like a Madden team Youth movements Always sneaking and drafting sleeper rookie studs such as Julio Jones and AJ Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Not a bad haul there ML! Yeah, when I looked at the team I had received I was shocked. My WRs alone should kill. But pair that up with Stafford and Ray Rice. And still got Vernon Davis at TE with Moore and Robinson on the bench... Don't make any sense to me. :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorPickSix Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I've been doing a few mock drafts for the 12-team league I run with a bunch of friends. Standard scoring. Here's the team I like best and will hope to imitate come draft-time (next Sunday). QB: Stafford WR: Fitzgerald, M. Wallace RB: Doug Martin, Reggie Bush TE: Vernon Davis WR/RB: DeAngello Williams or Santonio Holmes K: John Kasay DST: Seattle BN: RGIII, James Starks, Kyle Rudolph, Alshon Jeffery, Doug Baldin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 No. To me an elite RB > elite QB. The difference in points between elite RBs and solid RBs is much more drastic compared to the point difference between elite QBs and solid QBs. I would keep Rice over Brees. I would keep Rice, Foster, & McCoy over any QB this year. Agreed. A starting RB is a rarer commodity these days, and you have to start 2 of them, so they merit early attention. Since none of you are in my leagues, here's some players who i think are good later-round options: Redman, RB, Pitt - going as late as 9th round in a lot of leagues, Benson is worth a late rounder since he was picked up by GB, also SD's back-up RB due to Matthews, and hardesty of CLE since Richardson is already dinged up slightly and Cleveland is cursed with no. 1 picks Matt Ryan or Matt Schaub, can be had 7th-10th in most Garcon, Moore (now the 2nd WR in NO), Nate Washington can all be had 10th or later right now. Meachem is likely #1 in SD and is going low, VJax is being slept on in TB. Detroit's kicker can be had in one of the very last rounds Skins D is going to be better than non-Skins fans think and can be had with your very last pick I too do not like to draft before at least the 3rd week of preseasons games has passed I think the best strategy as far as looking at draft site player rankings is to simply use the one that your league will use to draft since people will mostly go off of that come draft time. So if your league uses yahoo, use their ranking, if your league uses ESPN, then use theirs. One league did theirs early, it's free and just for fun, here's what I got: QB: RG3, Matt Ryan HB: MJD, McFadden, Gore, Ryan Williams WR: Wallace, Meachem, Wayne, Nate Washington, Heyward-Bey TE: Gronkowski D: Baltimore K: Hanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorPickSix Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 One league did theirs early, it's free and just for fun, here's what I got: QB: RG3, Matt Ryan HB: MJD, McFadden, Gore, Ryan Williams WR: Wallace, Meachem, Wayne, Nate Washington, Heyward-Bey TE: Gronkowski D: Baltimore K: Hanson Wow thats a pretty sick lineup, had to be a 10 team league right? I enjoyed your insight on some sleepers too, def agree about Lance Moore. Who's Mathews' backup in SD? Definitely want to try and snag him as my 3rd or 4th RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAbrendan Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Elka, good luck with Heyward-Bey. He somehow always ends up on one of my teams, and manages to piss me off nearly every week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Nice Matt, i think Cutler is gonna have a really good year. Thats a nice team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 To add to elkabong's sleepers I have a few of my own: Peyton Hillis, RB: Charles has never really been the "main" guy in KC and has never scored more than 7 rushing TDs in a season. Hillis will more than likely be their goal line back and vulture some TDs. Plus with Charles coming off ACL surgery, there's no telling how ready he is. You can easily get Hillis in the 9th or 10th rounds. Titus Young, WR: maybe not really a sleeper, but someone you can get in the later rounds that has a ton of potential. Playing across from Megatron will do nothing but help him. Doesn't hurt that the Lions are pass happy either. Greg Little, WR: sure he plays for the Browns, but someone has to catch passes there. He had 30 catches in his last 7 games last year. Would be a nice WR4 or WR5 in a PPR league with a chance to be a WR3. Jared Cook, TE: if you're looking for the next breakout TE, here he is. His last 3 games last year: 21rec for 335yds. ---------- Post added August-14th-2012 at 10:26 AM ---------- Nice Matt, i think Cutler is gonna have a really good year. Thats a nice team Thanks man! I'm not entirely sold on Cutler being a QB1 this year, but he certainly has top 10 potential with Marshall and Jeffery at WR now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I guess it would depend on how your league scores. We are a league that emphasizes yardage from the RBs and WRs. Say you start Gore and Foster. Gore has 54 yards and 1 TD and Foster has 100 yards and 1 TD. We take the total yardage (154 and divide by 18) and that gives you 8 points, plus the 2 TDs get you 10 points from your RBs. Each position gets it whole number (QB, WRs/TEs, K) and we get a possible score of say, 40. Then I use the oppositions defense to take points away. So say I score 40, his defense takes away 9 points (Ints, fumbles, sacks, etc) my final score for that week is 31. We get actual game scores with the formula that I use. I've noticed in our league within the last few years, that we tend to follow the trends in the NFL. In order to win my league you need exceptional QB and WR play. That gets you the most points. When we were doing this in the 90s, RBs were at a premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I guess it would depend on how your league scores. We are a league that emphasizes yardage from the RBs and WRs. Say you start Gore and Foster. Gore has 54 yards and 1 TD and Foster has 100 yards and 1 TD. We take the total yardage (154 and divide by 18) and that gives you 8 points, plus the 2 TDs get you 10 points from your RBs. Each position gets it whole number (QB, WRs/TEs, K) and we get a possible score of say, 40. Then I use the oppositions defense to take points away. So say I score 40, his defense takes away 9 points (Ints, fumbles, sacks, etc) my final score for that week is 31.We get actual game scores with the formula that I use. I've noticed in our league within the last few years, that we tend to follow the trends in the NFL. In order to win my league you need exceptional QB and WR play. That gets you the most points. When we were doing this in the 90s, RBs were at a premium. Hmm, thats different. Never heard of that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Alright so first trade question of the year: Would I be giving up too much if I offered Nicks and Locker for RG3 and Austin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Hmm, thats different. Never heard of that before. Here's an example of one of my teams lineups vs my other teams lineups: Brees 350 yds 3 TDs (1 pt for every 50 yards over 250 and 3 pts per TD pass)= 12pts (he can get pts for rusning yards, rushing TDs and 2 pt conversion- rushing only) S Jackson 90 yds rushing 1 TD Helu 40 yds 0 TD (90 + 46 136 divided by 18) = 8 pts (7 for yardage 1 for TD- can get points for receiving TD, 2 pt conversions rushing or receiving) Bowe 102 yds 1 TD Colsten 100 yds 1 TD F Davis 50 yds 0 TD (252 divided by 18) = 16 (14 for yardage and 2 TD- can get pts for 2 pt conversion) Gostkowski 5 XP 1 FG = 8 pts Mike Shanahan- 1 pt for coach winning Thats 45 total offensive points San Deigo Defense 4 sacks (-4), 1 INT (-2), 1 Fumble rec (-2) 1 safety (-2) and 0 shuout (-1)= -10 So, Say the other teams offense put up 40 (I don't feel like coming up with another lineup and stats, but you get the drift above) and their defense scored -8 I would take the 45 from Brees team and minus 8 (from team #2 above) for a final score of 37 Team 2 scored 40 and Brees defense took away 10 for a final score of 30. Final score- Brees team 37 Team Two 30. 37-30 We get real scores. Been doing this for 22 years. I found it in a magazine. Very rarely, like in the NFL does a team score above 50. I would take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Alright so first trade question of the year: Would I be giving up too much if I offered Nicks and Locker for RG3 and Austin? Heck no. Take that immediately. RG3 has more weapons than Locker and you know wants Dez starts getting going, Romo sits to pee will turn back to his original butt-buddy. Take it. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterx Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 How are you guys viewing Stevan Ridley this year?? His ADP is right around 70--but thats hard to judge since leagues could be 8, 10, 12 or 14 teams. ---------- Post added August-14th-2012 at 01:00 PM ---------- Heck no. Take that immediately. RG3 has more weapons than Locker and you know wants Dez starts getting going, Romo sits to pee will turn back to his original butt-buddy. Take it. :2cents: Kenny Britt, Kenny Wright, Nate Washington, Jared Cook, Chris Johnson -- not sure the Redskins have more weapons than them. But I would take RG3 over Locker simply because he is starting and won't be benched this year, not to mention higher upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Here's an example of one of my teams lineups vs my other teams lineups:Brees 350 yds 3 TDs (1 pt for every 50 yards over 250 and 3 pts per TD pass)= 12pts (he can get pts for rusning yards, rushing TDs and 2 pt conversion- rushing only) S Jackson 90 yds rushing 1 TD Helu 40 yds 0 TD (90 + 46 136 divided by 18) = 8 pts (7 for yardage 1 for TD- can get points for receiving TD, 2 pt conversions rushing or receiving) Bowe 102 yds 1 TD Colsten 100 yds 1 TD F Davis 50 yds 0 TD (252 divided by 18) = 16 (14 for yardage and 2 TD- can get pts for 2 pt conversion) Gostkowski 5 XP 1 FG = 8 pts Mike Shanahan- 1 pt for coach winning Thats 45 total offensive points San Deigo Defense 4 sacks (-4), 1 INT (-2), 1 Fumble rec (-2) 1 safety (-2) and 0 shuout (-1)= -10 So, Say the other teams offense put up 40 (I don't feel like coming up with another lineup and stats, but you get the drift above) and their defense scored -8 I would take the 45 from Brees team and minus 8 (from team #2 above) for a final score of 37 Team 2 scored 40 and Brees defense took away 10 for a final score of 30. Final score- Brees team 37 Team Two 30. 37-30 We get real scores. Been doing this for 22 years. I found it in a magazine. Very rarely, like in the NFL does a team score above 50. I would take So r you on a site that does all that for you? Or do you use a spreadsheet? ---------- Post added August-14th-2012 at 01:08 PM ---------- Alright so first trade question of the year: Would I be giving up too much if I offered Nicks and Locker for RG3 and Austin? IMO I like Nicks a lot more than Austin. But it looks pretty fair to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 So r you on a site that does all that for you? Or do you use a spreadsheet? I use a scoresheet. I'm the commissioner and I've been compiling the stats for 22 years, I can pretty much not even use a calculator to generate the scores. It's like the back of my hand memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAbrendan Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Another pre-draft trade question: The league is a 12 team, 4-division, non-PPR keeper league. We can keep up to two keepers, and those would supplement rounds 1 & 2. These keeper rounds are NOT snaked. With my "1st" pick/keeper, I'm keeping Ray Rice. With my second, Darren McFadden. I'm not very high on McFadden and have considered dropping him for a second round pick (pick #3 in the second round). A dude proposed a trade to me. He would like McFadden in exchange for his 2nd round pick (pick #10 in the second round...3rd round and onward starts snaking) and another pick. If I were to accept this, what would be fair? I was thinking for McFadden, I would get his 2nd round in addition to his 3rd round (so I'd have two 3rd round picks). To keep an even 16 draft picks, I would trade him a later round pick. What would be fair compensation to me for this trade? Or, should I not do it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 I think I'd keep McFadden. He's usually going in the 1st so you'd essential have 2 1st round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Keep McFadden and pray like hell that he can stay healthy for at least 14 games, and if he does he'll finish as a top 5 back, if not higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Thats tough. I would consider trading him for those picks depending on who everyone else is keeping. You would then have what 2 2nd round picks and 2 3rd round picks. That would be pretty nice. But like i said it would depend on who everyone else is keeping in your league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAbrendan Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Thanks for the responses. I'm seeing both sides to this, tough decision. FWIW, the keepers (as of now) are (in no particular order): Drew Brees Chris Johnson Calvin Johnson Michael Vick Ray Rice McFadden MJD Cam Newton Matt Forte Larry Fitzgerald LeSean McCoy Adrian Peterson Aaron Rodgers Arian Foster Jimmy Graham Tom Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterx Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I think I'd keep McFadden. He's usually going in the 1st so you'd essential have 2 1st round picks. McFadden is really good...when healthy easily a top 5 back. With Ray Rice as your RB1, it's worth taking a "risk" on an injury prone stud like him. I'd pick up a reliable back sooner than later to fill in for a few games that he may miss--and you could always snag the healthy Cedric Benson later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 McFadden is really good...when healthy easily a top 5 back. With Ray Rice as your RB1, it's worth taking a "risk" on an injury prone stud like him. I'd pick up a reliable back sooner than later to fill in for a few games that he may miss--and you could always snag the healthy Cedric Benson later on. There's definitely risk involved with McFadden, I had him last year! But just the potential of having 2 top 5 RBs is worth the risk IMO. You'll have a leg up on the rest of the league at RB and can focus on QB and WR instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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