RVAbrendan Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The past few years, I've taken a QB around round 4 or 5. I've found I can get a *good* QB (Flacco, Romo sits to pee, Cutler, etc) while bulking up my receiving corps. I also love to start the TE-picking streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 As am I, but outside of Foster, McCoy, & Rice all other RBs are shaky at best, and I could only make a case for possibly Chris Johnson being a mid to late 1st round pick. McFadden, Mathews, AP, Charles, and Murray have injury/durability concerns. MJD has the holdout, Lynch could be suspended, and Forte will be solid, but he's not worth drafting in the 1st round IMO.The league is becoming a passing league, and if you can get an elite QB, Rodgers, Brady, or Brees, I think all three of them are 1st round picks and people will even draft Newton & Stafford towards the end of the first round, even though I think that's a bit too high for both of them. I think the best approach is to do BPA and if that best player is a QB like the ones I named then pull the trigger over a questionable RB, or if that player is WR Calvin Johnson I would take him over most RBs. That's all true, but the drop off from Rodgers to the next tier with Manning, Stafford, Newton. is not as bad as the drop off with RBs. As you say, the others in top 10 after Rice, McCoy, Foster have concerns. heck, Foster is an injury concern as well. Because this is becoming more and more of a passing league quality RBs are rare, and you have to start 2 of them, whereas you only start 1 QB. So RBs have a much greater value. I'd take AP first and Steven Jackson 2nd all day long, and then take a 3rd tier QB like RG3, Phillip Rivers, Peyton a few rounds later before I'd take Brees first and have Jackson or Turner as my first RB and then a big old ? as the 2nd RB and basically crap for depth at RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 That's all true, but the drop off from Rodgers to the next tier with Manning, Stafford, Newton. is not as bad as the drop off with RBs. As you say, the others in top 10 after Rice, McCoy, Foster have concerns. heck, Foster is an injury concern as well.Because this is becoming more and more of a passing league quality RBs are rare, and you have to start 2 of them, whereas you only start 1 QB. So RBs have a much greater value. I'd take AP first and Steven Jackson 2nd all day long, and then take a 3rd tier QB like RG3, Phillip Rivers, Peyton a few rounds later before I'd take Brees first and have Jackson or Turner as my first RB and then a big old ? as the 2nd RB and basically crap for depth at RB. Now let me ask you what would you do in my scenario. My draft is in 10 days and it's a 10-team keeper league (1 keeper for 2 years max), and my keeper is RB McCoy. The other keepers that I know of right now are: RB Chris Johnson RB Ray Rice RB Adrian Peterson RB Jamaal Charles or Demarco Murray RB Darren McFadden or Fred Jackson QB Aaron Rodgers QB Drew Brees WR Calvin Johnson TE Jimmy Graham Now I have the #3 pick in the draft, and I know the 1st pick is going to be Cam Newton, #2 is going to be Arian Foster. Do I go with a RB like Lynch, Forte, or even McFadden (if not kept) or do I go with Brady and then hope a guy like Mathews, S. Jackson falls to me at #18? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 If you can get McFadden or Forte I would go with that. Then go WR or QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I would prob take Brady if i were you. I would think you would have a chance of getting one of those backs listed @ 18 but def not Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 See Matt I can make the case for McFadden because of his potential, but I'm having trouble taking Forte over Brady especially with Bush, Marshall, & Jeffrey in Chicago. That offense now has weapons for Cutler to use. And if I were to go with McFadden or Forte I would then go either WR, WR or WR, TE and then wait until the 6th or 7th to draft Matt Ryan. And S.T.r,l,o if I don't take Brady at #3, he'll be taken at #4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 See Matt I can make the case for McFadden because of his potential, but I'm having trouble taking Forte over Brady especially with Bush, Marshall, & Jeffrey in Chicago. That offense now has weapons for Cutler to use. And S.T.r,l,o if I don't take Brady at #3, he'll be taken at #4. I guess it depends what other QBs are being kept. I mean if you have McCoy and McFadden/Forte, you're set at RB. That's pretty much 2 top 5-10 RBs there. Sure Brady is nice, but RBs are slim picking past the top 5-10, so having 2 of them would give you a huge advantage over everyone else. You could still get a QB like Stafford, Cam, Vick, Eli, Rivers, or Ryan and be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 See Matt I can make the case for McFadden because of his potential, but I'm having trouble taking Forte over Brady especially with Bush, Marshall, & Jeffrey in Chicago. That offense now has weapons for Cutler to use. And if I were to go with McFadden or Forte I would then go either WR, WR or WR, TE and then wait until the 6th or 7th to draft Matt Ryan.And S.T.r,l,o if I don't take Brady at #3, he'll be taken at #4. Yea, i think Brady is ranked (depending where you look) top 5-9, and is the second overall QB. Yes, i agree you can grab a QB late and usually do ok with him...and i like McFadden also but he is always hurt. I think with the added weapons Brady has and the fact NE has the "easiest" sched he has a good chance of putting up more points than Rodgers. But we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I guess it depends what other QBs are being kept. I mean if you have McCoy and McFadden/Forte, you're set at RB. That's pretty much 2 top 5-10 RBs there. Sure Brady is nice, but RBs are slim picking past the top 5-10, so having 2 of them would give you a huge advantage over everyone else. You could still get a QB like Stafford, Cam, Vick, Eli, Rivers, or Ryan and be fine. Only 2 QBs being kept are Brees and Rodgers, with Cam being drafted #1. I have a gut feeling that McFadden will be kept because the only other option the guy has to keep is Fred Jackson and I just don't see that happening. I understand where you're coming from with the 2 RBs, and usually that's what I do, I had Foster & McCoy last year, and was looking at Mathews @ #3 until he got hurt, and I just don't see Forte putting up top 5 numbers this year and I don't trust Seattle's rushing game with Lynch and who knows if he's going to be suspended. IMO I think the combo of McCoy, Brady, & either Mathews or S. Jackson > McCoy, Forte, & a QB like Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The vast majority of your fellow league mates must be idiots. Unless someone else walked away with a similar draft you should walk away with the championship. Rice was good value at #4 (usually top 3 but Ball park), Good value with Wallace and Brown too, but Forte, Nicks, and Stewart were complete steals, There is no way you should have ended up with all that receiver and RB talent to go with a good TE and a decent QB. [quote name=MattFancy;908630 I did a draft yesterday and here are the results: I had the #4 pick in a 12-team PPR 1. Rice 2. Forte 3. Jennings 4. Harvin 5. Nicks 6. Wallace 7. Cutler 8. JStewart 9. Tony Gonzalez 10. Titus Young 11. Donald Brown 12. Greg Little 13. Hillis 14. Locker 15. Seattle 16. Lance Kendricks 17. Kaeding So my starting lineup is: QB--Cutler RB--Rice' date=' Forte WR--Jennings, Nicks, Harvin W/R/T--Wallace TE--Gonzalez[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 If you think you can get Mathews in the 3rd, then sure go for Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'm in a keeper league with McCoy as my keeper and I have the #3 pick in the draft in 2 weeks. I was looking at drafting Mathews at #3 before he broke his collarbone, so now who should I draft between Darren McFadden, Matt Forte, or Tom Brady?I'm leaning towards either McFadden or Forte because I can find a solid QB in the later rounds and would rather have 2 great RBs when some owners will have 0 great RBs. Any opinions? Forte going away if it is a PPR, Forte slightly if it is more conventional scoring. Either way go with Forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 If you think you can get Mathews in the 3rd, then sure go for Brady. I'm hoping his injury scares people away, that or I would be looking for someone like S. Jackson, MJD (if he were to fall that far), Turner, or even a guy like Sproles (who's very undervalued IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'm hoping his injury scares people away, that or I would be looking for someone like S. Jackson, MJD (if he were to fall that far), Turner, or even a guy like Sproles (who's very undervalued IMO). If its PPR I'd stay away from Turner. In order this is what I would do: McFadden Forte Brady MJD Mathews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLJ Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 quick question. i'm in a 16 team ppr league. i can keep gronkowski as a 4th rd pick. assuming there is no way he can repeat last year, is it worth keeping a t.e. in the 4th round even if he is the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 quick question. i'm in a 16 team ppr league.i can keep gronkowski as a 4th rd pick. assuming there is no way he can repeat last year, is it worth keeping a t.e. in the 4th round even if he is the best? Who else would you be able to keep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 If its PPR I'd stay away from Turner. In order this is what I would do:McFadden Forte Brady MJD Mathews Just .1 for a reception. Turner is a last resort type of thing, and if McFadden is available I think I'll be taking him at #3, if not Brady it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLJ Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Who else would you be able to keep? the only other option would be dalton (qb) in the 9th. (of course i don't have to keep anyone if i choose not to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 the only other option would be dalton (qb) in the 9th. (of course i don't have to keep anyone if i choose not to) I think I'd keep Gronk. He's usually going in the 2nd rounds, so you're getting some value if all you're giving up is a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwack Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 the only other option would be dalton (qb) in the 9th. (of course i don't have to keep anyone if i choose not to) I think Gronk for a 4th rounder is fine. He's going in the mid-to-late 2nd, early 3rd round. Even if he doesn't repeat the numbers he had last year, he'll still be a top 3 TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 Just did a 10-team auction draft last night. Only the 2nd time I've ever done an auction so still trying to work out the kinks. QBs--Stafford (35), Romo sits to pee (9) RBs--McCoy (50), Forte (32), Spiller (8), Hillman (1) WRs--Thomas (20), Harvin (16), Young (7), Holmes (4), DMoore (1), LMoore (1) TEs--Hernandez (12), Fleener (1) K--Bryant (1) DEF--Pats (1), Lions (1) So my lineup is: QB--Stafford RB--McCoy/Forte WR--Thomas/Harvin/Holmes/ TE--Hernandez Flex--Young/Spiller PPR league, 6pts per passing TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btubes18 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I think Gronk for a 4th rounder is fine. He's going in the mid-to-late 2nd, early 3rd round. Even if he doesn't repeat the numbers he had last year, he'll still be a top 3 TE. a 16 team league...Gronk will definitely go in the second round if not first. I have seen him gone in some mock drafts at 12... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 a 16 team league...Gronk will definitely go in the second round if not first. I have seen him gone in some mock drafts at 12... Yup, pretty sure hes going 10 or 12 in my draft coming up. If not i will def grab him in the 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General NSJ Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I'm in a 14 team keeper league and I'm deciding between Mike Wallace or Jay Cutler and I have the #2 pick in the draft. I expect Drew Brees to be available and my original plan was to keep Wallace & take Brees with my first pick. Thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAbrendan Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I'm in a 14 team keeper league and I'm deciding between Mike Wallace or Jay Cutler and I have the #2 pick in the draft. I expect Drew Brees to be available and my original plan was to keep Wallace & take Brees with my first pick.Thoughts?? Nobody is keeping Brees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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