sportjunkie07 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 simply put, banks needs to change his approach. he needs to wait for his blockers to engage, cut outside, and turn on the jets. this is where he is most effective. currently he's running right behind his blocks and either being tackled in the gauntlet of players or pushed out of bounds (because teams are trying to keep him near the sidelines). he needs to use his speed to get outside and he'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana_4_prez Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 He needs to learn how to not step on the out of bounds line when he does take it outside...seen it a few too many times where he could have taken it to the house had he known where he was stepping. (easier said than done, i know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 couldve sworn that i heard a commentator state that, during last weeks game, Banks was leading the NFC in Kickoff return yardage? :idontknow: fwiw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay112 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I'm shocked he hasn't fumbled, so he's doing a good job, it could be MUCH worse. A lot of you Redskins fans are so darn spoiled, just complain constantly... But I'd actually like to see Banks as a WR once in a while. I'm telling you, if the Redskins produce a 5 wide offense with Rex we would be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I'm shocked he hasn't fumbled, so he's doing a good job, it could be MUCH worse. A lot of you Redskins fans are so darn spoiled, just complain constantly... But I'd actually like to see Banks as a WR once in a while. I'm telling you, if the Redskins produce a 5 wide offense with Rex we would be dangerous. Spoiled? In what context? KRs? We haven't had a consistently good return man since the late-1990s. Wins? Nope. That hasn't happened consistently in 2 decades. We're spoiled when you compare us to a handful of franchises I suppose, but not much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay112 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Spoiled? In what context? KRs? We haven't had a consistently good return man since the late-1990s. Wins? Nope. That hasn't happened consistently in 2 decades. We're spoiled when you compare us to a handful of franchises I suppose, but not much more. So you believe the Redskins should CUT Banks?? He's done a good job, he's no Hester, but you can't point the finger at him at all. Blame Beck dude, he's wack and doesn't know the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 So you believe the Redskins should CUT Banks?? He's done a good job, he's no Hester, but you can't point the finger at him at all. Blame Beck dude, he's wack and doesn't know the offense. He's 17th (KOs) and 19th (punts) in average so far (roughly half way through a season) so I'm not sure he's doing a good job. Couple that with the fact that he does nothing else but return kicks and I wouldn't lose sleep if they went in another direction after this season. I don't see the need to immediately cut him, but I'd explore other options (Paul, Robinson, Austin, etc.) next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Spoiled? In what context? KRs? We haven't had a consistently good return man since the late-1990s. Wins? Nope. That hasn't happened consistently in 2 decades. We're spoiled when you compare us to a handful of franchises I suppose, but not much more. lol we've been amongst the league best in kick return average most years. to be lucky enough to have an explosive guy like banks, and have half the fanbase calling for him to be cut? yes, that's spoiled. or dumb. i'm undecided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston2Taylor2Landry Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 We need to take him off Kick Return. Leave him on Punt. To be able to take kicks back (75% of the time) you need to be able to break 1 or 2 tackles, and we know Banks isn't gonna do that. If you ask me who should replace him as KR....I would say DeAngelo Hall. I know that isn't gonna happen, but I think he could do wonderfully back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 lol we've been amongst the league best in kick return average most years. to be lucky enough to have an explosive guy like banks, and have half the fanbase calling for him to be cut? yes, that's spoiled. or dumb. i'm undecided. He's been here for two years. This year, we're right in the middle of the pack. So, if it's true that we are generally among the league best without him, why would we take up a roster spot on someone who only returns kicks? Either we're not generally among the league best or he's not a difference maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 lol we've been amongst the league best in kick return average most years. to be lucky enough to have an explosive guy like banks, and have half the fanbase calling for him to be cut? yes, that's spoiled. or dumb. i'm undecided. A. No we haven't. B. He he is remarkably average. He is currently putting up a 23.9 average. Which is 16th among players with 10 or more attempts. C. It's ok to look stats up. It's actually better than just making things up. ---------- Post added November-2nd-2011 at 02:35 PM ---------- couldve sworn that i heard a commentator state that, during last weeks game, Banks was leading the NFC in Kickoff return yardage? :idontknow:fwiw... You are wrong. He was the #1 guy in attempts. He is 16th or 17th in average depending on how many attempts are needed to qualifty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 he needs a windy day so the ball lands in front of the goal line and he can start running at around the 5 instead of the endzone... but then again, that wind might tackle him or push him over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 You are wrong. He was the #1 guy in attempts. He is 16th or 17th in average depending on how many attempts are needed to qualifty. Well, he might be right. He's second in total return yards. So it's possible that, at the time of our game, an announcer said that he leads the league in kick return yardage. Then again, that tells you nothing other than we've returned a lot of kicks since he's middle of the pack in both kick and punt return average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Well, he might be right. He's second in total return yards. So it's possible that, at the time of our game, an announcer said that he leads the league in kick return yardage. Then again, that tells you nothing other than we've returned a lot of kicks since he's middle of the pack in both kick and punt return average. I was going to say, its cus most guys actually down it when its 7-8 yards in the endzone, so everytime he barely makes it to the 15 adds up on KR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 A. No we haven't.B. He he is remarkably average. He is currently putting up a 23.9 average. Which is 16th among players with 10 or more attempts. C. It's ok to look stats up. It's actually better than just making things up. we were 4th in 2008 and 8th in 2007. i know banks wasn't returning then -- my point was that people who want banks cut must be either spoiled or lack the ability to see the blatantly obvious. shanahan himself said it would be "silly" to not have him as a return man. he's one of the few players on this team who could be called explosive. even if the stats so far this season haven't borne it out, anyone with eyes can see that havign him back there might be our best chance to score considering the state of the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 when its 7-8 yards in the endzone, so everytime he barely makes it to the 15 it is like laying up on a par three....pointless.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 we were 4th in 2008 and 8th in 2007. i know banks wasn't returning then -- my point was that people who want banks cut must be either spoiled or lack the ability to see the blatantly obvious. shanahan himself said it would be "silly" to not have him as a return man. he's one of the few players on this team who could be called explosive. even if the stats so far this season haven't borne it out, anyone with eyes can see that havign him back there might be our best chance to score considering the state of the offense. So, we're worse off than we were when ARE and Cartright were contributing to offense and returning kicks. And, because of that, we should dedicate a roster spot to a return specialist on a team that is starved for depth at many positions? Seems to me we should do just the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 So, we're worse off than we were when ARE and Cartright were contributing to offense and returning kicks. And, because of that, we should dedicate a roster spot to a return specialist on a team that is starved for depth at many positions? Seems to me we should do just the opposite. i don't know what to tell you. the dude is more likely to run one back than the offense is to score a touchdown at this point. another no-name body from the practice squad suiting up isn't going to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 i don't know what to tell you. the dude is more likely to run one back than the offense is to score a touchdown at this point. another no-name body from the practice squad suiting up isn't going to change that. Not really. The offense has scored TDs this year while Banks has not. Maybe we're getting our wires crossed with our different definitions of probabilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 it is like laying up on a par three....pointless.... no, it's like going for the green on a par 4. risky, but with potentially big payoff. considering how bad our offense is and how good our punter is, it's a decent risk to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 i don't know what to tell you. the dude is more likely to run one back than the offense is to score a touchdown at this point. another no-name body from the practice squad suiting up isn't going to change that. He is no where near "running one back" this year. He struggles to get to the 15 on kick offs and cannot break any tackle. He is equally putrid as our sorry ass offense.... ---------- Post added November-2nd-2011 at 04:09 PM ---------- no, it's like going for the green on a par 4. risky, but with potentially big payoff. considering how bad our offense is and how good our punter is, it's a decent risk to take. going for the green on a par 4 using a pitching wedge...not enough club and not enough talent for Banks..high risk...no reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Not really. The offense has scored TDs this year while Banks has not. Maybe we're getting our wires crossed with our different definitions of probabilities? for one thing, i said "at this point" -- this is not the same team that opened against the giants. banks came closer to scoring last week than our offense did. second, he must be pretty dang amazing if we're even having this debate. shanny is right -- it'd be silly to not have him back there. ---------- Post added November-2nd-2011 at 08:15 PM ---------- ok now i'm arguing against people who don't even think banks has the potential to run one back. clearly we're operating on seperate realities from one another. good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 for one thing, i said "at this point" -- this is not the same team that opened against the giants. banks came closer to scoring last week than our offense did. second, he must be pretty dang amazing if we're even having this debate. shanny is right -- it'd be silly to not have him back there. Agree to disagree I guess. The guy has scored 1 TD in 1.5 seasons returning both kicks and punts. Yet, people speak about him here like he's Devin Hester. We'll see. Something tells me that our putrid offense will get in the end zone before he does. ---------- Post added November-2nd-2011 at 04:26 PM ---------- ok now i'm arguing against people who don't even think banks has the potential to run one back. clearly we're operating on seperate realities from one another. good day. Of course he has that potential. He's done it, therefore he can do it. I just think that he's overvalued here by some who view him as a game-changer. He hasn't been a game-changer this year once. I think we have to stop basing our opinions of Banks on the Detroit game from a year ago (almost to the day) and look at how he'd done this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay112 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 lol we've been amongst the league best in kick return average most years. to be lucky enough to have an explosive guy like banks, and have half the fanbase calling for him to be cut? yes, that's spoiled. or dumb. i'm undecided. THANK YOU greenspandan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 THANK YOU greenspandan... So, are you defending Banks by agreeing that we performed better with journeymen returners who also covered kicks and played on offense? If so, how does that add up to justifying a roster spot for a specialist who contributes to no other facets of the game and is middle of the pack this year? Assuming Austin or Paul could run from the end zone to the 15 without falling down before the coverage arrives, couldn't we make better use of the roster spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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