NewAgeSkins Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Campbell = 6 TD's through 5 games. Grossman = 6 TD's through 4 games. Grossman wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Wjy don't you go ahead and mention that Carlos Rogers has Three (3) INTs already this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Wjy don't you go ahead and mention that Carlos Rogers has Three (3) INTs already this year? id like to call that "The Walt Harris Effect" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Not to derail, but I'd be more interested in Andrew Luck vs Robert Griffin III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Wjy don't you go ahead and mention that Carlos Rogers has Three (3) INTs already this year? But if you take away those 3 interceptions he doesn't have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General NSJ Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Seriously, JC has been gone for over a year now. I was never a huge fan of his anyway, but its time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 But if you take away those 3 interceptions he doesn't have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 But if you take away those 3 interceptions he doesn't have any. ASF would be proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Who the heck is GOSSMAN?:confused: :helmet:The Rook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 let it go. campbell is gone. he still checks down to rb's. he still stares down receivers. hes still scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 ASF would be proud. I'm just saying, all of his interceptions were thrown to where his hands would be when the ball got to hand level. There's a glaring omission that in the Cowboys game the quarterback threw it to a place where his hands weren't and it bounced off his helmet. Compare the average of his interceptions of balls that weren't thrown to his hands vs the league average of "elite" CB's interceptions of balls that don't hit their hands and I bet Corlas Rodger is just average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 But if you take away those 3 interceptions he doesn't have any. well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 if you take away his incompletions, he's the greatest QB in nfl history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Hog Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 What about never getting rid of JC, not getting McNabb, and keeping those 2 draft picks? Who knows how Jason would have done had he been here last season and this...I'm guessing mediocre, and not much better / worse the Grossman. Whatever though, we'll never know, and that doesn't really bother me. I'm happy with the off-season draft picks for the most part (still not over Jenkins going down ), and I'm definitely happy with a 3-1 record (even though it should be 4-0). Keep winning and I don't care who's at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herb mul-key Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 JC is not a good pro leader, has skills but is not a leader and will be only marginally successful unless the rest of team is all world.. Rex...has a lot to prove and his attitude is too ****y, lackadaisical I kinda need to see him have a few great games before I stop thinking Beck might be a better option...I'm a bit underwhelmed by Grossman and think he needs to shut up and put up...the fact he is out of shape and hasn't worked on fitness and speed fricken kills me...dude should be in all world shape!!!! thinks he can come in and Billy Kilmer it...Dallas owned him and beat us cause Rex is fat and slow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Kyle's offense is a QB's dream. Based on Campbell's 2009 production* (64.5 comp%--3,618 yds--7.14 ypa--20 TD--15 INTs 9 86.4 Passer Rating) I think he would look pretty good in this offense. *(when he played without a running game or running backs, with Zorn/Sherman Lewis calling plays, no FO leadership, the worst bookend OT tandem in the league, behind one of the worst OL's in league and limited talent at WR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtroop Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I am not a big Rex person I know neither are you. I recall you not liking JC, curious who do you like better if you had to pick one JC or Rex? That makes absolutely no sense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Robert Griffin Experience Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Kyle's offense is a QB's dream.Based on Campbell's 2009 production* (64.5 comp%--3,618 yds--7.14 ypa--20 TD--15 INTs 9 86.4 Passer Rating) I think he would look pretty good in this offense. *(when he played without a running game or running backs, with Zorn/Sherman Lewis calling plays, no FO leadership, the worst bookend OT tandem in the league, behind one of the worst OL's in league and limited talent at WR) He also played in an offense where about 60% of his yardage was YAC from screens and short passes, and had one of the worst deep-ball completion percentages in the league. Jason Campbell would flop in this offense, largely because he'd actually have to make reads and throw accurate passes in stride over the middle. Rex can do those things - his weaknesses are decision-making (tries to force passes), arm strength and pocket presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santanathegreat Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I bet Grossman would be killing it if he were on the Raiders right now (for the most part)... ROFL you cannot be serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Kyle's offense is a QB's dream.Based on Campbell's 2009 production* (64.5 comp%--3,618 yds--7.14 ypa--20 TD--15 INTs 9 86.4 Passer Rating) I think he would look pretty good in this offense. *(when he played without a running game or running backs, with Zorn/Sherman Lewis calling plays, no FO leadership, the worst bookend OT tandem in the league, behind one of the worst OL's in league and limited talent at WR) I agree it's a QB's dream. Receivers are open all the time. McNabb was the first and probably the last QB to complain about it. As far as Campbell goes, I suspect Kyle saw something in him on tape he didn't like. I've never even heard a rumor that he had an issue with JC not being the guy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Another Campbell thread who would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportjunkie07 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I bet Grossman would be killing it if he were on the Raiders right now (for the most part)... i doubt it. as much as i dislike JC's style, its is 100% suitable to oakland's offense. all JC has to do is not make mistakes, and the short passes and running game should allow the offense to put up enough passes to win. i think rex would be gambling and would lose games for them. ---------- Post added October-13th-2011 at 05:00 PM ---------- I thought they did a lot of screens and dump offs to the RBs in order to get them the ball in space (at least last year they seem to be). I just know that Grossman reads defenses better and has a quicker release...give him that running game (and a scheme designed to maximize it), and he can be deadly with an effective play action. 80% of their passes are short passes. JC makes zero throws over the middle and maybe like 4 or 5 deep looks per game, and campbell has been horrible in that regard. still though, i think JC is better there, he is allowing the team's playmakers (which are really good) to do the work. grossman would most likely ignore the checkdown to mcfadden and throw a crossing route. sometimes successful, and oftentimes, not. ---------- Post added October-13th-2011 at 05:00 PM ---------- Campbell = 6 TD's through 5 games.Grossman = 6 TD's through 4 games. Grossman wins. campbell also has a rushing TD or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 One play that makes me believe that Rex is a better fit in this offense than Campbell would have been is that short slant for the TD against the Giants to Gaffney. No chance Campbell makes that throw like Rex did. Rex is much quicker with the ball. Quicker decisions, quicker delivery. He doesn't wait for the receiver to get open every time. He throws to spots and throws them open. Campbell has never done that. Stats aren't the way to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spearfeather Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Grossman over Campbell or McNabb. Grossman makes decisions quicker than Cambell and McNabb, and has a quicker release. Edit: Armchair, it appears we posted, pretty much the same thing at the same time. (6:13) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red8Rex Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Most of the fans of this board don't even deserve to be Redskins fans. Who makes fun of their own players? What a pack of losers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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