HailToTheRedskins14 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Pardon me for being about 365 days too early, but we all know about the QB situation. Now, we'll have to see what happens after the lockout is truly over, but I have a feeling we're going with either Sexy Rexy or McNabb, which does very little for us. Neither is our longterm franchise QB. So with all the QB's going off the board in the 1st and 2nd rounds, I'm starting to think there won't be many QB-needy teams next year. Let me go ahead and predict an entire year's worth of football and list the teams that will not be considering QB's at all in the draft. 32 - Green Bay Packers - Aaron Rodgers 31 - Pittsburgh Steelers - Ben Roethlesberger 30 - New York Jets - Mark Sanchez 29 - Chicago Bears - Jay Cutler 28 - New England Patriots - Tom Brady w/ a 3rd round Ryan Mallett 27 - Baltimore Ravens - Joe Flacco 26 - Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan 24 - New Orleans Saints - Drew Brees 23 - Philadelphia Eagles - Mike Vick, Kevin Kolb, I imagine they won't be looking for a QB with both of these guys currently on the roster 22 - Indianapolis Colts - Peyton Manning 20 - Tamp Bay Buccaneers - Josh Freeman 19 - New York Giants - SHEli Manning 18 - San Diego Chargers - Philip Rivers 14 - St. Louis Rams - Sam Bradford 13 - Detroit Lions - Matt Stafford 11 - Houston Texans - Matt Schaub That eliminates 17/32 teams off the bat just by having franchise-calibre QB's in place (or at least thinking they do). Let's look at the remaining 14 teams : Buffalo Bills Cincinnati Bengals - drafted Andy Dalton in the 2nd round this year Cleveland Browns - looks like Colt McCoy is better than expected in the NFL Oakland Raiders Denver Broncos - Tebow is a question mark but showed potential, maybe I'm alone but I don't think Orton is THAT bad... San Francisco 49ers - drafted Colin Kaepernick (sp) in the 2nd round this year Arizona Cardinals Tennessee Titans - drafted Jake Locker in the 1st round this year Dallas Cowgirls - they love them some Romo sits to pee but this could be a make or break year for him. Also look to have a solid backup who could get by as a starter. Jacksonville Jaguars - Garrard is the starter and they have Gabbert from Mizzou who they invested a 1st round pick in Minnesota Vikings - drafted Christian Ponder in the 1st round this year Miami Dolphins Seattle Seahawks So if we eliminate those teams, it looks like the main competitors for the Luck sweepstakes are : Arizona Cardinals (5-11 in 2010) Miami Dolphins (7-9 in 2010) Seattle Seahawks (7-9 in 2010) Oakland Raiders (8-8 in 2010) Buffalo Bills (4-12 in 2010) Washington Redskins (6-10 in 2010) I think we have a helluva chance at getting him without throwing/tanking the season. We might even be able to trade up for less than the Falcons did. If Carolina has the #1 pick we'd be in good shape to trade maybe a 1st, 2nd, and future 1st for him. And I know this is way too early, and I know Luck could tank and not even get drafted this year, but at the moment he's as close to a sure thing as you'll get. I know we're a year away and its unpredictable...and I know some people are gonna get pissed I even brought this up. BUT I'M FEELING LUCKY DAMMIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Unless Shanny starts all the players we draft tomorrow and declares Beck the starting QB we aren't getting Luck Also most of the teams you listed as wouldn't draft Luck, would all draft Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 We ain't getting Luck.period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins804 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 With the tricks shanny/bruce pulled today, you never know lol......BTW, one of those 5 other teams are going to get Kolb or Vick (No way they both stay after 2011). That narrows it down to 4 other teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goingforburgundy Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I would be happy with Barkley as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think you mean "how much bad luck" haha. Because its not happening. I wish people would stop dreaming about it, and have realistic expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think we are going to be in for a looooong season so I think our chances are very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I must admit, your title is touching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailToTheRedskins14 Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 I just don't think it's too out of the question. The QB needy teams this year got their projects - some got them in the first round and others were early 2nd round. You just don't waste back to back 1st rounders on QB's unless you are in a position like the Panthers are with a new head coach. I'm just saying I don't think its such a crazy scenario. If you really look at it, a lot of franchises have "their guy" right now. I think even if we're picking around 14-18 next year, we could still make a run at Luck and not have to fight off many other teams. And apparently he's worth throwing the farm at. It would be good timing for our franchise's rebuilding mode. The NFL has been a QB league for years and we're about the last team to come around and notice it. That might actually work out in our favor. EDIT - I think two simple things we can do next season is hope for Tebow and Colt McCoy to have very good years. Eliminates two more teams. One of the big things for me was seeing Harbough draft a QB for the 49ers. I honestly thought he was planning on tanking the season to get his former college QB...hell, he could still be planning on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyLeeGhostHunter Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Not out of the question. As of now, we have a 1/32 chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Jeeeez. I could understand people wanting to tank the season after being eliminated from playoff contention, but this is just insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Ya know we could be trying to get all of our young talent in this draft with all of those acquired picks and throw out a crazy trade to move up to the #1 slot next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 It doesn't have to be Luck. How strong is next years class? Maybe the 2nd or 3rd best QB next year is better than anybody in this years draft. Having said that, count me in on supporting the philosophy that we do whatever it takes to try and land Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADF Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think teams like Arizona, Miami, and Seattle could easily have better records than us. Oakland has traded away some of their ammo already. So, our main competition is probably Buffalo. I wouldn't count out the Lions. Stafford really hasn't done much of anything so far. He's living off of his draft slot and potential right now. He's always hurt. If he's knocked out again this season, I wouldn't be shocked if the Lions considered Luck.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think teams like Arizona, Miami, and Seattle could easily have better records than us. I think Oakland has already traded away their first round pick to NE. So, our main competition is probably Buffalo. I wouldn't count out the Lions. Stafford really hasn't done much of anything so far. He's living off of his draft slot and potential right now. He's always hurt. If he's knocked out again this season, I wouldn't be shocked if the Lions considered Luck.. With that D the Lions will have at least 7 wins no matter who is behind Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailToTheRedskins14 Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Jeeeez. I could understand people wanting to tank the season after being eliminated from playoff contention, but this is just insane. I'm not saying to tank the season, I'm saying we could finish better than we did this year and not have to fight many teams to try to move up. ---------- Post added April-30th-2011 at 12:33 AM ---------- I think teams like Arizona, Miami, and Seattle could easily have better records than us. Oakland has traded away some of their ammo already. So, our main competition is probably Buffalo. I wouldn't count out the Lions. Stafford really hasn't done much of anything so far. He's living off of his draft slot and potential right now. He's always hurt. If he's knocked out again this season, I wouldn't be shocked if the Lions considered Luck.. I agree with Stafford and was going to mention that. Big year for him, so we'll have to cheer for him to have a good year. Tebow, Stafford, and McCoy now on my list of QB's to cheer for....along with Grossman :S ---------- Post added April-30th-2011 at 12:35 AM ---------- Ya know we could be trying to get all of our young talent in this draft with all of those acquired picks and throw out a crazy trade to move up to the #1 slot next year. I don't know how crazy it'd have to be. A 1st, 2nd, and future 1st might do it? Or add on another future 2nd? 2 1st's and 2 2nd's? I'd probably think long and hard about it depending on how this year turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsehrer Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Obviously it's way to early to tell what our chances are and it's probably a long shot, but it's still definitely a possibility. Keep in mind, as of right now we have picks in every round plus an additional 4th for Campbell. My hope is that we are able to take some of our recently acquired picks in this years draft and find a way to parlay them into picks for next year. I'm sure we'll also trade a couple players during or after training camp who won't make the roster for additional picks. If we are able to stock pile enough draft picks for next year, we may have enough ammunition to move up, the same way the Atlanta Falcons did, and take Luck. It also depends on how well he plays this year and if his stock value drops at all. Jim Harbaugh is gone so he'll be working with a new coach and most likely be in a new system. There's also a chance that if another QB plays well next season, he could shoot up the draft board ahead of Luck. Again, it's a long shot, but not outside the realm of possibility. It will just depend on how everything plays out from now until next April and where we stand on draft day. In the meantime, all we can do is hope things work out for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADF Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I agree with Stafford and was going to mention that. Big year for him, so we'll have to cheer for him to have a good year. Tebow, Stafford, and McCoy now on my list of QB's to cheer for....along with Grossman :S I completely forgot about Denver and Cleveland has some ammo now. I'd be happy with Luck or Barkley at this point, but there is no guarantee that the latter comes out next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backpack3r Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I would take a 2-14 season to get Andrew Luck. Yes it would be painful as hell, but im thinking future, Luck is going to be a pro bowl franchise qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail-to-da-skins-21 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think our best chance of getting luck is for a team that just drafted a qb (probably have to be a first rd QB) within the last two years would need the top pick then we trade the house for him ....probably be an entire draft or close to it but idc I'm just so happy we didnt draft a qb this year it really shows our franchise is learning that we have to be patient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 We don't need luck to get Luck. All we need is to go 1-15. But isn't SF already setting themselves up with 1st and 2nd rounders for next year? Harbaugh picked Kaepernick but who does he really want? ---------- Post added April-30th-2011 at 03:12 PM ---------- I would take a 2-14 season to get Andrew Luck. Yes it would be painful as hell, but im thinking future, Luck is going to be a pro bowl franchise qb Painful? What hasn't been painful since 1991? When you were like 3 or 4? LOL. ---------- Post added April-30th-2011 at 03:15 PM ---------- Well lets hope we hear Shanahan start talking about "building for the future" key words for tanking and going for Luck next year. I'm all for it but do question whether he really wants to play in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelosh Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Well, if Rex is re-signed and starts this year it could happen. Besides Luck, next years draft has way better crop of franchise caliber QB's. We will have an opportunity to get a franchise signal caller next year no problem. Whoever it is next year, he will almost certainly be better than anyone we could have gotten this year. Who knows maybe the football gods smile down on us and we do get LUCKy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runs with Scissors Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Alot can change in a year.Cam Newton wasn't even though of last year this time..it was all Locker. For all we know John Brantley or Terrelle Pryor etc. might be the hot QB by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backpack3r Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 We don't need luck to get Luck.All we need is to go 1-15. But isn't SF already setting themselves up with 1st and 2nd rounders for next year? Harbaugh picked Kaepernick but who does he really want? ---------- Post added April-30th-2011 at 03:12 PM ---------- Painful? What hasn't been painful since 1991? When you were like 3 or 4? LOL. ---------- Post added April-30th-2011 at 03:15 PM ---------- Well lets hope we hear Shanahan start talking about "building for the future" key words for tanking and going for Luck next year. I'm all for it but do question whether he really wants to play in the NFL. Lol yeah I know, every season has been miserable. I just hope that if we dont do well this season that there isnt a lot of backlash against Shanahan and Allen, we need to give them some time to get this group out of the landfill that Vinny and Danny buried us in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillSkinzFan84 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Its not too far of a strecth that we will be able to land Luck next year. I dont think it will happen but its not impossible. If Rex starts for us this year we will suck and most likely have a top 6 (top 10 at the least) pick next year and with teams getting QB's last year and this year there wont be as many teams that will be in the market for a QB. We will have extra picks and can come up with a package to move up to #1 spot and draft Luck. Its not impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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